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00R-Gundam said:
As much as i would enjoy a Gundam or a Trails in the Sky secret lairs. Honestlh this whole crossover thing has and will get out of control. Unless they tank really hard and consecutive on such sets/products they will keep doing this crossovers with whoever whores themselves enough.
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They are doing Star Trek next year they are already scraping the bottom of the barrel.
 
Professor V said:
And that's the only reason I'm gonna be gambling on anything else magic related this year, I want that bishounen Emet-Selch... That art is so disgustingly pretty, how can I not?!
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He's also an exceptionally fun commander for a UB control shell. I've been building decks around the XIV characters because I really enjoy their Commander designs of "good, but mostly not retardedly powerful" (Yshtola is badly pushed.) Between the black mage token cards and some old secret tech, you can really juice his effect turn after turn. Pairs great with Fandaniel (who can easily start blasting people for 20+), juices your value with self-suspending and shuffle-into-deck cards, which avoid the exile clause.

Estinien is also getting a bishounen treatment, but I don't really know what the fuck I'm supposed to do with this design. Maskwood Nexus?
Oh, apparently, you can see the full sets here, down at the bottom for the new cards plus the new treatments.
 
Love Machine said:
Do people even care about star trek anymore?
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Yes and both of us are over in the thread.
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I used to fucking hate Star Trek. I was forced to watch it as a child, and absolutely disregarded it. Now that I am older, wiser, and nerdier, I can say that I am beginning to have more interest in the franchise. I have begun watching Enterprise on netflix... Where do I go from there? Is there some sort of primer for Trek or should I just watch whatever I feel like watching?
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I'mma real anime gurl said:
Scalpers are filthy bugmen who should be executed. All I want is a goddamn chocobo click wheel and a chocobo box.
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I'm officially out of the magic game this year. WotC could fix that shit, but they choose not to because artificial scarcity drives 'investors' to buy up product.

Even Secret Lair has become frustrating to collect with secret drops, long-ass queues, limit supply and chase bonus cards. Can't just have nice looking cards anymore.

It fucking sucks.
 
I dipped and sealed up my wallet the second I started seeing spider-man spoilers. I'll be back for Lorwyn, if the spoilers are any indication, because it looks Neat like Bloomburrow looked Neat.
 
Love Machine said:
Do people even care about star trek anymore?
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Do people even care about Avatar anymore?
Or Walking Dead
Or Stranger Things (the secret lair came out before season 4)
Or Marvel

Lets be real they already blew through their loads with DnD, LOTR and Final Fantasy and now we are gonna get 3 or 4 years of Pushing Universes Beyond sets from things that are years past their prime.
 
00R-Gundam said:
As much as i would enjoy a Gundam or a Trails in the Sky secret lairs. Honestlh this whole crossover thing has and will get out of control. Unless they tank really hard and consecutive on such sets/products they will keep doing this crossovers with whoever whores themselves enough.
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Gundam, Dragonball, and One Piece arent gomna happen anytime soon.

Bandai runs card games for those and the Gundam card game is completely sold out and actually got more people at a card shop than standard. It the hot new game at the moment. Scalpers are scooping up all the product and likely will strangle the game in its crib. Also the way Bandai does event registration is retarded and game killing.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
Even Secret Lair has become frustrating to collect with secret drops, long-ass queues, limit supply and chase bonus cards. Can't just have nice looking cards anymore.
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I literally can never make any sense of their secret lair decisions. Why is it not a print to demand item? Why even have queues? Don't they own their own print shop? If SL is so popular, how do they not have a dedicated machine to them?

If scarcity or something to maintain value is the issue, OK you do an initial print run of like... 500 of a SL AND make those serialized. Then the first 500 orders get those, and everybody after will get just the plain boring version of the SL.

Half the time it's like they don't want money with these things.
 
namelesstacotruck said:
Wait does wizards pay pokemon to print their cards?
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I don't think so, I think Wizards shops it out to several companies in different parts of the world.

This is why the foils bending is so inconsistent part of it has to do with the climate of the place the card was printed.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I don't think so, I think Wizards shops it out to several companies in different parts of the world.

This is why the foils bending is so inconsistent part of it has to do with the climate of the place the card was printed.
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That's always been weird. Buy a bundle, the cards are printed in Japan and high quality. Buy a booster box, they're printed in Belgium and are trash.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
No they don't.
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Not a full scale production shop but I've heard and read some places that WOTC had a small scale print capability. (MaRo has mentioned they don't use stickers any more but jist literally print out new cards for testing IIRC.) Without details I'd bet that while they couldn't handle a massive million box product line, it would surely be enough to handle secret lair.

Or maybe they should invest in an on-site SL production
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I don't think so, I think Wizards shops it out to several companies in different parts of the world.

This is why the foils bending is so inconsistent part of it has to do with the climate of the place the card was printed.
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And yet other card games with the same printers dont have the same problems. Nor do older magic cards.

Its 100 percent because Wizards changed the card composition to be cheaper.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
Those niggers can't even invest in Pro play, you want them to invest in an industrial base? in Washington State? In the year of our lord 2025?
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No. SL wouldn't require a full industry base unless it was literally selling tens of millions. We're talking about printing, cutting and packaging half a dozen cards. The packaging they would probably outsource but I've seen the envelopes they come in and think that could probably be done inhouse too. Heck at the rates they restrict it now, you could run production of SL off an HP desktop jet printer from Walmart.

(The sole exception being the commander decks or the things like the dandan SL, but those are like 1 every couple of years and those they could outsource. But so far as I've seen the majority of SL could be handled pretty easily even in Washington.)
 
Flexo said:
I literally can never make any sense of their secret lair decisions. Why is it not a print to demand item? Why even have queues? Don't they own their own print shop? If SL is so popular, how do they not have a dedicated machine to them?

If scarcity or something to maintain value is the issue, OK you do an initial print run of like... 500 of a SL AND make those serialized. Then the first 500 orders get those, and everybody after will get just the plain boring version of the SL.

Half the time it's like they don't want money with these things.
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I always thought that was the initial point of Secret Lair, something they can sell that theoretically can't lose money. But I guess long shipping times and not fully accommodating scalpers/FOMO wasn't making enough.
 
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