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Polock said:
ow hecking invalidating and exclusionary that they didnt print THIS stunning and brave version of April on the UB cards
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We haven't seen all the cards, m8
Retink Retunk said:
she might have had some connection to a black woman but was not black
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Ok, I might've been mistaken. Back then she looked like this
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Doesn't really look asian to me, but I am no race scientist.
 
Noebel said:
Ok, I might've been mistaken. Back then she looked like this
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Doesn't really look asian to me, but I am no race scientist.
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That's because she's not Asian, as they scrapped that idea. She's some kind of ambiguous race mutt, as even the woman she was named after doesn't look that black.
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Not to be confused with his second wife Julie Strain who was inspiration for Heavy Metal
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She's also not portrayed consistently throughout the original run
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There's also the issue of the same strip being printed with multiple versions of her, in order first to third printing, interestingly the second printing is usually shown first in most lists.
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DootSkeleton said:
First, I think he equates EDH to Kitchen Table when they're very different. Really they're only comparable in the sense that they're both intended as casual formats.
Second, I absolutely believe that EDH is the main factor in keeping MTG-focused brick-and-mortar LGSs open.
Main point: though WOTC supporting the most popular format isn't inherently a problem, the way in which they are supporting it is most definitely a problem. I expect WOTC to put some EDH cards in sets when it's the biggest format. I don't like it, but they're a business and need to make money.
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Billy the Adult said:
Possible, but I'm not to sure about that. Draft I'd believe the most, since you have to pay each time obviously. Competitive players are fine with paying for an event, especially with prizes. For commander, you've got the people who will buy boxes of a set they want or they'll buy singles. Otherwise they'll likely come in for weeks at a time without paying. I guess you could have them pay to be there, but that's at best them donating to the store, since I'd like to think most are smart enough to not play commander for prizes. I'd imagine its very feast or famine, which I guess is fitting since UB seems like its also feast or famine.
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Maratus volans said:
The vast majority of LGSes I've seen have dropped draft entirely from their schedules. It was trending in that direction pre-COVID, but especially since then paper draft has been dead. Amusingly, Final Fantasy has (somewhat) revived demand for paper drafts in my area, but...
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The main issue is that Standard/Modern/Draft IRL has dropped like a rock. The only time I ever see competitive players coming into my store is when we are hosting RCQs and we are talking about 10-20 players.

Every night when we host commander nights I average between 40-50 players. It gets to the point I have to turn away people coming in to play because i have no room.

FNM died and it was killed by both Covid and MTG:A. (Though other things contributed to it the main perps is those two)
 
BlackDragoons said:
FNM died and it was killed by both Covid and MTG:A. (Though other things contributed to it the main perps is those two)
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Don't forget that Standard and Modern had gone through bad times even before Covid hit, Kaladesh's Energy and Cat combo bullshit, Eldrazi Winter

Constructed was already on the ropes by 2019...then They Tried to Force ESPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!, Rona hit..and the Absolute shit show that FIRE design absolutely fucked competitive magic and it has never really recovered because who the fuck cares.
 
BlackDragoons said:
FNM died and it was killed by both Covid and MTG:A. (Though other things contributed to it the main perps is those two)
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One of the biggest things was probably them messing with how someone qualified for a pro event, which killed any aspiration anyone could still have to play one on one Magic. Even casual players can get into the hype of playing in events if they have some dream to follow, but when you strip all of that away and make it an invite only thing it easily devolves into the most casual format which is Commander. Add to that the print rate increase and how bad the meta has been for extended periods of time and of course it snowballs.
 
Retink Retunk said:
One of the biggest things was probably them messing with how someone qualified for a pro event, which killed any aspiration anyone could still have to play one on one Magic. Even casual players can get into the hype of playing in events if they have some dream to follow, but when you strip all of that away and make it an invite only thing it easily devolves into the most casual format which is Commander. Add to that the print rate increase and how bad the meta has been for extended periods of time and of course it snowballs.
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The Pro scene has always been awful. The payouts were so low that you could never be an actual professional player.

SaffronOlive is more of a professional player than most Hall of Famers just because he makes an actual living off playing the game instead of spending Thousands flying to a random city every three months.
 
AnotherPleb said:
I remember when Secret Lairs were From The Vaults and went to LGS. At least then they tried to put a bit more effort in them
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But then they can't make a million different versions in the laziest packaging they can buy and collect the full amount directly.

Maybe I'm mentally retarded, but I never really understood why someone would buy a Secret Lair, they're a weird hype junk thing that if you're fighting to pick up you're wasting your time.
 
Retink Retunk said:
But then they can't make a million different versions in the laziest packaging they can buy and collect the full amount directly.

Maybe I'm mentally retarded, but I never really understood why someone would buy a Secret Lair, they're a weird hype junk thing that if you're fighting to pick up you're wasting your time.
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MTG players are ultra consoomers.
 
ChickenFriedFan said:
Jaws drop got raped by scalpers, just ordered a proxy print of all the cards i wanted.
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I swear Wizards is just trying to encourage a competitive proxy market at this point. You cant get shit from their site even if you wanted to.

Retink Retunk said:
That's because she's not Asian, as they scrapped that idea. She's some kind of ambiguous race mutt, as even the woman she was named after doesn't look that black.
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April is and always has been white. If she was meant to be any other race, they would have portrayed her as such in the 2003 cartoon. Peter Lair was heavily involved in the show, he made it in response to the original 87 cartoon because he hated how the turtles were portrayed in it. That's why Dr. Baxter is black in the 03 cartoon unlike his white counterpart since the show follows the original comic very closely as well. This 'April is a black woman' cope is just retarded revisionist history, but since WotC is full of fags, I'm not surprised they make her a nigress.
 
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ChickenFriedFan said:
Jaws drop got raped by scalpers, just ordered a proxy print of all the cards i wanted.
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Holy shit i saw. That the newest secret lairs sold out quick. Ill assume the community lost their shit at it. Shame too because if i had known those were coming out, i would have attempted to buy them because the art looks sick. Will probably just make the proxies and call it a day.
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
More of the avatar cards have been spoiled and this set looks really simplified in design space compared to the mess that was spiderman. I don’t know shit about the IP, but the limited environment doesn’t seem like it’s going to be completely ass.
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I've watched Avatar before, but I think it's a pretty bad pick. Avatar is based around a four color-element world. Fire, Wind, Water, and earth. Which doesn't neatly fit onto the color pie, white/blue are usually the wind elements, but the water tribes aren't that Blue in their ideology, mostly Red/White with some Green so it feels off flavor wise. Fire slots into red pretty well and since their villains they'll probably get black, even if the faction on a whole is probably Mardu. Black and green both share a lot of the earth theming, and there's earth bending secret police and apparently some evil earthbenders in korra, that I didn't watch, so I guess they'd get black due to being villains.
I saw some of the spoilers and Aang getting a mono-white card feels off. He's way more red. While Zuko as the fire lord gets Black, somehow, despite him not being Black in personality or powers. He's just black due to being the 'leader' of a villain faction. Even though the war has ended by that point. This even comes up with some other characters like Hei Bai who's very mono-green, maybe black/green. But gets a black/white card due to being a panda.
It's still a better fit than the two color good versus evil world of spiderman and marvel which lazily slapped black onto the villains even if it didn't fit power or lorewise.
Either way I won't be buying.
 
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Honka Honka Burning Love said:
We are getting like 4 versions of the turtles so i imagine we are getting the potato shape April and 90s April to
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They showed some Michael Bay Turtles so they may even pay the rights to have Megan Fox. Not that it costs much. Nether Realms brought her in to "voice act".

Lizard Machine Bugs said:
I've watched Avatar before, but I think it's a pretty bad pick. Avatar is based around a four color-element world. Fire, Wind, Water, and earth. Which doesn't neatly fit onto the color pie, white/blue are usually the wind elements, but the water tribes aren't that Blue in their ideology, mostly Red/White with some Green so it feels off flavor wise. Fire slots into red pretty well and since their villains they'll probably get black, even if the faction on a whole is probably Mardu. Black and green both share a lot of the earth theming, and there's earth bending secret police ana apparently some evil earthbenders in korra, that I didn't watch, so I guess they'd get black due to being villains.
I saw some of the spoilers and Aang getting a mono-white card feels off. He's way more red. While Zuko as the fire lord gets Black, somehow, despite him not being Black in personality or powers. He's just black due to being the 'leader' of a villain faction. Even though the war has ended by that point. This even comes up with some other characters like Hei Bai who's very mono-green, maybe black/green. But gets a black/white card due to being a panda.
It's still a better fit than the two color good versus evil world of spiderman and marvel which lazily slapped black onto the villains even if it didn't fit power or lorewise.
Either way I won't be buying.
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The colour pie hasn't mattered for 20 years.
 
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