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They were set to boycott Ultimate Guard for making Harry Potter deck boxes.

I have no doubt WOTC is super nervous over triggering the mass freakout.
It will weed out the community and I think it has the possibility to be bigger then FF and LOTR and will attract actual females to the game something wizards has been trying to do for years at this point, benefits outweigh the costs in my opinion. Can you imagine going to a game store or a tournament and not seeing a troon there. It would be like 2007 all over again. We just need to find a way to root out all the neckbeards next.
 
Zendikar is literally mtg DnD plane and look what happened.
>be DnD themed plane
>Have DnD flavored mechanics on your cards
>release literal DnD set
>ignore previous DnD mechanics and introduce heckin' gamba mechanics instead

I will never fucking forgive WotC for this.
 
>be DnD themed plane
>Have DnD flavored mechanics on your cards
>release literal DnD set
>ignore previous DnD mechanics and introduce heckin' gamba mechanics instead

I will never fucking forgive WotC for this.
if you are talking about the Party mechanic, they were right to ignore that shit show. Half the actual Baulders Gate 3 Party members aren't included in it.
 
if you are talking about the Party mechanic, they were right to ignore that shit show. Half the actual Baulders Gate 3 Party members aren't included in it.
As I was talking with someone the other day, I really love the idea of the party mechanic (get 4 of different types), but MTG's very game system works against it by the very nature of how easily creatures come and go - much less with how random said sequence might come up during a game.

That's before you even get into how granular the game gets with 30 different variations on "spellcaster" or "melee fighter" the game has, so then you have the further problem that a "sorcerer" or a "warlock" doesn't count for your party because you're looking for "wizard."

How in the world the mechanic made it out of freakin' vision design is beyond me because preliminary testing should have thrown up every red flags on it that MaRo has ever talked about. It's basically now "the changeling mechanic" because the only way to make it work is to run a deck full of them.

What's worse is even in his State of Design, MaRo seemed to totally miss every relevant lesson.
  • You enjoyed party's general design space and liked it in Limited.
I got a lot of positive feedback about how party was tackling a tribal theme in a very different way than we've done tribal themes in the past. Players also enjoyed how we gave each of the four party tribes a strong mechanical identity that let you play either mono-tribe or with party, and it was possible to combine the two. In general, party in Limited and casual Constructed was well received. But. . .
  • Party didn't live up to its potential in Constructed.
Party had a lot more problems when it was brought to Constructed formats, especially Standard. The audience wanted more seeding pre- and post-Zendikar Rising of the four relevant class creature types and wanted us to position some individual cards to be more potent to make the theme work in Constructed. I do know this feedback will be taken to heart the next time we do a larger tribal theme.
 
As I was talking with someone the other day, I really love the idea of the party mechanic (get 4 of different types), but MTG's very game system works against it by the very nature of how easily creatures come and go - much less with how random said sequence might come up during a game.

It wasn't even just "get 4 different types of creatures on the board" - the full party cards had the sliding scale of reward for playing the creatures with the jackpot at the top. You didn't need a full party. Sure, Spoils of Adventure, Coveted Prize, and Thwart the Grave weren't that great until you had 2-3 creatures out, but Nimble Trapfinder was almost always a 2/1 unblockable and Concerted Defense was enough of a tempo play that you could beat down control decks with your growing Archpriest of Ionia. I've sperged about it before but Base Camp getting FUCKED by being a tapland was retarded and held back the entire party concept imo. I really really loved it and brewed decks all rotation.

As a concept I think it was good but the eternal problem WOTC has is that they move on from a weak but cool concept without supporting it in follow up sets then wonder why people didn't like it. Unless its a commander product, I guess.

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I sort of think party could have been "saved" if it was like outlaw and was just a big pile of types and you just had to have any 4 but it's also just a shit mechanic not worth saving and it was already word salad enough without including shaman, warlocks, barbarians, soldiers, scouts, goats, Uncle Istvans, cowards (cowards can't block warriors) and whatever else WotC thinks belongs in a DnD party.
 
The actual deckbuilding of party decks in commander is interesting, as the upside of "full party" makes it worthwhile. The issue is that Nalia and Burakos are generally the only interesting commanders, with some people dipping into esper piles (usually Sefris) to have access to Linvala and the Trapfinder. I have an idea bubbling about making a Celes party-animator deck, but that's more because I want an excuse to play one of my favorite pet cards, Exava.

I have a Burakos / Haunted One and you get to play some really niche, unusual cards. Bellowing Mauler and Titan Hunter turn out to be real fucking beatings when paired with Undying and Aristocrats. Prowling Gesistcatcher and Body Launderer represent insane amounts of value, even if they have anti-synergy with Undying. Vindictive Lich is hard to slot into most other decks, yet wreaks utter havoc here - and Solemn Doomguide is brutal when paired with the myriad each-player-sacrifices creatures in the party types. Since the card types are fairly common, you always get new goodies - like Twilight Diviner. Pair this with cards that work well with treasure generation, like Vat of Rebirth and Obsessive Pursuit, and you've got an engine.

The trouble is that the role that Party is playing in all of this is filtered purely through Burakos's weird interaction with Haunted One. If you swap it out to go UB with something like Clan Crafter, the entire focus of the deck shifts. Party is only interesting in that it forces you to limit your pool and play cards that you might otherwise overlook, with the payoffs outside of Coveted Prize being on the weaker side. In the end, this design space is better served by having individual commanders care about it, like Vaan, Voja, or Maralen.

Outlaw just shows how shallow trying to code super-tribes as a 'mechanic' is, as a card like Double Down is just getting slotted into rogue, assassin, or pirate deck - there's zero reason to try to try to make it fit elsewhere, and absolutely no incentive to try to feature several of the types.
 
It will weed out the community and I think it has the possibility to be bigger then FF and LOTR and will attract actual females to the game something wizards has been trying to do for years at this point, benefits outweigh the costs in my opinion. Can you imagine going to a game store or a tournament and not seeing a troon there. It would be like 2007 all over again. We just need to find a way to root out all the neckbeards next.
My lgs has been trying to get more women into mtg which by itself is fine, i dont mind more people and is always good to break the sausage fest. They also been trying to do learning days for women only, but those kinda fail because you get like 2-3 interested, but they get inevitably weirded out when some fat fuck approaches for a game and then acts creepy around them. I do agree that neckbeards should get the axe, cant stand those fat fucks breathing heavily in my general vicinity nor their foul smell due to lack of hygiene, like fuck man just bathe and have a stick of deodorant at hand goddamn.
 
WotC thinks belongs in a DnD party.
The problem is they only did what "WOTC THINKS BELONGS" in a party...if you never actually played DND because they left out a ton of the most basic bitch "Classes"

Paladins aren't included in party despite being introduced as a subclass of the Fighter class in the first supplement for the game in 1975 when Mark Rosewater was 8. Paladins have existed as a mainstay of "Dungeon and Dragons parties" for as long as the people who made the mechanic have been alive.
 
My lgs has been trying to get more women into mtg which by itself is fine, i dont mind more people and is always good to break the sausage fest. They also been trying to do learning days for women only, but those kinda fail because you get like 2-3 interested, but they get inevitably weirded out when some fat fuck approaches for a game and then acts creepy around them. I do agree that neckbeards should get the axe, cant stand those fat fucks breathing heavily in my general vicinity nor their foul smell due to lack of hygiene, like fuck man just bathe and have a stick of deodorant at hand goddamn.
Women > Fat retards > troons (Fat retards in a dress with more demands).

The problem is that most attempts to bring in new demographics are done in the most retarded and useless ways possible.
 
My lgs has been trying to get more women into mtg which by itself is fine, i dont mind more people and is always good to break the sausage fest. They also been trying to do learning days for women only, but those kinda fail because you get like 2-3 interested, but they get inevitably weirded out when some fat fuck approaches for a game and then acts creepy around them. I do agree that neckbeards should get the axe, cant stand those fat fucks breathing heavily in my general vicinity nor their foul smell due to lack of hygiene, like fuck man just bathe and have a stick of deodorant at hand goddamn.

Women > Fat retards > troons (Fat retards in a dress with more demands).

The problem is that most attempts to bring in new demographics are done in the most retarded and useless ways possible.

Did WotC ever try to push to attract Pajeets to play the game? Have they ever been interested in card games in general, or are they too lazy to steal cards to make decks to play? Because their smell is high up too.
 
Did WotC ever try to push to attract Pajeets to play the game? Have they ever been interested in card games in general, or are they too lazy to steal cards to make decks to play? Because their smell is high up too.
There was Kaladesh but that just lowered their Izzat by accident. When they insert unredeemed gift cards in place of serialized cards you'll know they're really trying.
 
Guys, what's with intensified talks about banning rhystic studies? Did I miss something?
 
Guys, what's with intensified talks about banning rhystic studies? Did I miss something?
Some dumb cunt that's good at number crunching and has a YouTube channel but is also a socialist faggot made a video arguing for its banning using a retarded argument.

Did WotC ever try to push to attract Pajeets to play the game? Have they ever been interested in card games in general, or are they too lazy to steal cards to make decks to play? Because their smell is high up too.

If poos started playing TCGs and started attending Game stores en mass, I would seriously consider quiting. What an awful thought you'd put in my mind.

Imagine the smell.
 
My lgs has been trying to get more women into mtg which by itself is fine, i dont mind more people and is always good to break the sausage fest. They also been trying to do learning days for women only, but those kinda fail because you get like 2-3 interested, but they get inevitably weirded out when some fat fuck approaches for a game and then acts creepy around them. I do agree that neckbeards should get the axe, cant stand those fat fucks breathing heavily in my general vicinity nor their foul smell due to lack of hygiene, like fuck man just bathe and have a stick of deodorant at hand goddamn.

I read a post back in the day about an LGS that would kick you out on Friday night magic if you smelled and did not put on deodorant and did not execute general hygiene. Of course for normal people this is no big deal, like shower at least once a day make sure you don't smell like shit but in the comments of the post some delusional neckbeard tried to defend the idea of going into Friday night magic smelling like shit because some people have to work and don't have time to bathe. These people need to be kicked out of the community they make us all look bad because of there retardation and I'm sure more females would play if they didn't have to worry about creeps and troons trying to run the hobby.

Guys, what's with intensified talks about banning rhystic studies? Did I miss something?

Rhystic study has been in Magic for a long time. I personally don't see a problem with it because down to it's core magic is a game about managing recourses be it your mana, life, deck or graveyard. Some people don't like being taxed every time they play a spell. There's no real issue with the card as much as there is an issue with the player who just can't stand the fact they're being taxed. Someone needs to remind them you don't have to pay the tax. Smothering Tithe is under that same kind of principal minus drawing you cards and I don't see people trying to get it banned.
 
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