Malcolm in the Middle - Why nobody is speaking about it?

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Absolutely loved the original show growing up and just finished watching the reboot. Its not awful but its underwhelming. I hated what they did to Stevie and the new sister sucked. I smiled at all of the cameos for old characters - I didnt expect the return of the krelboyns or Francis' military school friends, really liked those cameos. Malcolm's daughter had some good moments but wore thin at times. I thought they had a really solid dynamic at first, showing how Malcolms softer relationship caused her to develop issues, and she wished she had some of the stricter parenting malcolm had. The dynamic was kindve dropped after the first episode, and she got really bland high-school plot lines without any of the soul of the original show.

Overall it really lacked alot of the comedy that made the original show great, but it was nice seeing alot of these characters again after 20 years. It succeeded as a reunion special but could've been way better if they cut some of the new characters and used that time to recreate some of the original humor.
 
I'm surprised that Lois is the straightman of the whole family dynamic now. Everybody else is just embarassing to witness, especially Malcolm. The non-binary daughter barely exists, Hal is too much of a goofball, Reese is too much of an insecure son, Steve... enough said.
 
Overall it really lacked alot of the comedy that made the original show great, but it was nice seeing alot of these characters again after 20 years. It succeeded as a reunion special but could've been way better if they cut some of the new characters and used that time to recreate some of the original humor.
With today's writers, they will never create brilliant comedic moments like this.

 
The original was special because it was relatively edgy for a sitcom. This new version lacks any edge or grit, it is so soft and safe it's unrecognizable.
 
How did they fuck it up so bad? Its honestly soulless I watched the four episodes over two days and well some of it made me laugh like Hal getting high as fuck other parts just did not make any sense. Like they just had to introduce a new member of the family that was a troon and did not serve anything to the plot. You could not have them in the show and it would end up exactly the same.

Its the same thing but to a lesser extent with the king of the hill reboot. But they had an actual season of that. This is only four episodes why should I care about these new characters? Its only 4 episodes. The original malcom in the middle was good because it was dysfunctional family comedy this is literally stripped of that.
 
I'm still dickering over whether or not I'll even bother to watch it, just like I did with the King of the Hill 'revival' [which I ultimately decided to skip, and I don't feel like I missed a whole lot by doing so] because there is a propensity for these things to absolutely taint my mental associations and memories of the original. That's precisely what happened for me with Futurama,
I would recommend king of the hill... first episode starts off week but it finds its footing really quickly.

The sticking point is going to be how much you liked Dale. The new voice actor is trying but terribly miss cast.
 
I'm OK with them including a daughter who claims she's non-binary, because the show was always about a typical white lower-middle class American family, and lots of white lower-middle class kids claim to be non-binary. What I'm not OK with is the fact that it wasn't mined for comedy at all. Not even something as tame as Reese making fun of her and then realizing the error of his ways in the last episode. We're just expected to believe everyone in the Malcolm universe just bites their tongue about having a non-binary sibling after we all watched them torture each other over the smallest things for years.
I guess if I really have to try and stretch to give them props for this decision, I can credit them with the fact that it's sort of a funny gag that all that time, Lois wanted to have at least one daughter in the household, she successfully has one, and then later on said daughter decides that she's actually "gender fluid" or whatever the fuck. I don't know if that was intentional on their part but if it was, that's sort of clever. Other than that it's still odious and obviously checking boxes. And of course, the "nonbinary" chick just looks like a chick, because "nonbinary" is essentially a means for teenaged girls to get attention and join the "LGBTBBQXYZ+ community" with zero effort or real lifestyle changes on their part. I've seen it said that Linwood Boomer [the show's creator] gave an interview to some newspaper/magazine and said that the reason he wanted to ensure "inclusion" of such characters is because three of his kids are "queer". I guess that's meant to be some "sweet, heartwarming" anecdote but really all that tells me is that you've failed as a parent because three of your kids ended up defective and were probably molested or groomed, as statistically that's how queerdom is transmitted most of the time. If it isn't that, it's either trendhopping that they'll grow out of eventually, or they were groomed into it by their parents so they could receive accolades, attention and asspats for having a troon kid or whatever. Some parents seem to see it as a badge of honor, basically treating their troon kid as a little purse dog they can tote around and show off so people think that they're progressive and heroic and "so brave" or whatever.

If they really wanted to be inclusive and progressive, they should have had Stevie also convert to Islam and throw a few "Allahu Akbars" out, that way he would check every single box of the progressive stack. Black, "queer", disabled and Muslim, although I guess they could also throw in some gender confusion there, too. Make him an MTF troon that is gay and has a "transman boyfriend", so basically just being heterosexual with extra steps. Not progressive enough, sweetie!

Something else I'm seeing complained about [mostly on Reddit] is the fact that the brothers hardly have any interactions or dialogue at all with one another, which is fucking lame, too. The entire series was about the dynamic between the brothers, getting into stupid shit, pulling pranks, committing minor crimes, arguing with Hal & Lois, destroying the house, etc. Seems like they spent a lot more time focusing on the new characters that nobody cares about or has a reason to care about, since four episodes isn't long enough to even flesh them out and make people care. Then people have bitched about how they set up plotlines with said new characters but they can't actually develop or go anywhere because, again, it's only four episodes, unless they're angling for a spin-off based on Malcolm's daughter. I guess that might be possible. But since you know it's only a four episode run, one has no reason to get invested in the new characters or any of their plotlines, as you know there will be no resolution or a larger story arc. As usual the Redditoids are over there having a toxic positivity circlejerk where if you criticize the show even slightly, they'll tell you that you have no "media literacy" or that you're a bigot for not liking it, because surely you're only basing your opinion on the fact that there are queer characters. Anyone who complains get aggressively downdooted on sight, that is if you aren't banned outright. Jannies over there were discussing locking the subreddit for a time due to the influx of comments, which... there's a new release in a fucking series that's been dead since 2006, you'd think this would be a good thing? Shouldn't you be pleased that your dead subreddit is actually active now instead of rehashing the same five jokes, quoting the same four scenes, or posting the same three fucking memes over and over again? As that's what always happens in any community based around a long-dormant media franchise.

Seriously, I would like to know where in the fuck this Redditoid obsession with "media literacy" came from. I started noticing them repeatedly using that phrase like six months ago or so, it's basically at the same level as therapyspeak or "stochastic terrorism", with Redditoids it's like a firmware update rolls out and suddenly they're all updated with the latest buzzword in their vocabulary. "Um, yikes sweaty, if you didn't notice all of the progressive themes in this show clear back in 2004, you really need to work on your MEDIA LITERACY skills, you see you actually need a fairly high IQ to understand the subtle humor of Malcolm in the Middle, educate yourself..." Sorry, we don't all have the fucking time to acquire our Ph. D in "media literacy", fucknut.

The sticking point is going to be how much you liked Dale. The new voice actor is trying but terribly miss cast.

Can't properly quote when editing, but I can give them a pass for Dale since Johnny Hardwick died, but I heard Kanh's new voice actor in a clip of the new KOTH season and holy fucking shit, whoever they got to do him is AWFUL. And even worse, they just HAD to do that because you can't have a white dude voicing an Asian character anymore, just like on Family Guy they had to change Cleveland Brown's voice because they needed a black guy to do it, because everybody lost their fucking minds as a result of the "Racial Reckoning" [Chimpout] in 2020. New Kanh is terrible and I had hoped that Mike Judge would tell the whiny leftoids that are concerned about voice talent to fuck off, but he didn't. That's one reason why I think I've just skipped it, that one change felt like it indicated something about the overall quality of the new season, plus the animation looks terrible. Presumably it's all digital now and done by some studio in Korea/Vietnam or some shit, just like everything else.
 
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Like they just had to introduce a new member of the family that was a troon and did not serve anything to the plot.
It could've actually been funny too. The idea of Lois finally getting the daughter she always wanted, only for her to troon out could've been funny if you worked it into the plot. We instead get another Will Byers coming out-esque scene.
 
It could've actually been funny too. The idea of Lois finally getting the daughter she always wanted, only for her to troon out could've been funny if you worked it into the plot. We instead get another Will Byers coming out-esque scene.
Or the joke is there was a mix up at the hospital and Lois actually had a son and he just shows up one day out of the blue.
 
It could've actually been funny too. The idea of Lois finally getting the daughter she always wanted, only for her to troon out could've been funny if you worked it into the plot. We instead get another Will Byers coming out-esque scene.
The troon was cringe but did they add anything to the plot? Not really. They could have removed her nothing would have really changed.
 
it looks like they're - of course - using the shitty fucking sterile lighting that every other modern television show uses, which I dislike. It makes every setting in the show look like a fucking hospital room and it's tiresome. There should be studies done on just what the fuck happened to make film/television lighting so fucking garbage over the years, it's like its a forgotten art or some shit, sort of like how audio mixing has become awful - dialogue too fucking quiet, so you turn up the volume to hear what characters are saying [seriously I shouldn't need to automatically turn on subtitles for everything I fucking watch when I am not DEAF] and then get your ears blown off during the next action sequence. I guess it's just another stepping stone in the enshittification of everything - sort of like how animation is all CalArts inspired trash or CGI now. It really just feels like nobody gives a shit anymore about the quality of their work, everyone is just skating by on the bare minimum eternally.
There was an informative link about this exact thing shared in the Harry Potter HBO thread. https://anactorexplains.substack.com/p/color-and-lighting-in-the-hbo-harry?r=5h0g7j
 
I thought there were things to both like and dislike about this one.

Likes- Reese is still the same fuck up he always was, but now he runs a website making fun of Hal and sells his underwear to pervs online

Reese's feud with his squealer of a baby sister

Hal tripping balls

Malcolm actually ending up happy and successful once he got out from under Lois' thumb

Francis trying to move up Lois' list

Francis still trying to win his mom's approval despite being the most well-adjusted of all his siblings except maybe Dewey

The musical number from The Gentlemen Callers

Richie somehow landed in the perfect job for him

The Krelboynes showing up and their goofy chimera/son (I don't think they're a gay throuple, I just think that Hubert was proof of concept for their abilities with genetic engineering. Besides, Stevie is already gay.)

Finding out what happened to Otto

Abe and Kitty

Stevie tipping over his wheelchair to try and bail out Malcolm

Dewey ending up precisely how Lois said he would in the original series finale

Craig is as hilarious as ever. "The shrimp is bad!"

"You're in a wheelchair and I'M needy?"

"YOU'RE Titty-Titty Bang-Bang?"

Lois editing Stevie's part of Hal's tribute video

The small glimpse of Jamie and Dewey's relationship

Brian Cranston hasn't lost his talent for slapstick comedy

"You have a DAUGHTER?!"

"She's alive?"


Dislikes- No Cynthia

No Herkabe

Jamie and Dewey are given far too little to do

Francis' military school buddies are wasted in their cameo

The brothers don't get nearly enough time to interact with one another

Four episodes wasn't nearly long enough to really explore who the new siblings are as people and Kelly being non-binary just reeks of checking an item off of a list

Overall, I liked it far more than I disliked it. I don't demand ideological purity from my entertainment, so the non-binary and gay stuff doesn't really bother me.
 
Where's the funny? Malcolm in the Middle is supposed to be funny. I hate these skinwalking fucking parasites and I wish they were all dead.
The context is Lois made everyone record videos about what Hal means to them. Hals arc is about how much he sacrificed for everyone, even to his detriment. This is a segment where it's Lois' having everyone show the sheer love they have for him. In context, it's sweet.
 
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