UN Man sentenced to one day in jail for 2 stabbings in 16 minutes in Vancouver - Judge said man was 'homeless, hungry and addicted to drugs' for reasons unknown and dindu nuffin

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A man who stabbed two people in the span of 16 minutes for reasons unknown was "anxious, homeless, hungry and addicted to drugs at the time," a B.C. judge said, announcing a one-day sentence for attempted murder.

Dominic Nathan Scott Auckland was sentenced last week after pleading guilty to aggravated assault and attempted murder in connection with two incidents in 2019.

Because his case didn't go to trial, some of the details revealed in his sentencing were heard for the first time by those not involved in the series of events on April 29 of that year.

During his sentencing hearing, the court heard that Auckland's short crime spree began at 4:06 p.m.

THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT

As described by Judge Reginald Harris, who viewed surveillance camera video of the incident, Auckland walked by a parking lot on East Hastings Street at that time, and appeared to have noticed a man rummaging through items on the ground.

"Mr. Auckland walked by, doubled back, and removed a knife from his right pocket," Harris wrote in his reasons for the sentence he imposed.

"Mr. Auckland then lunged forward and attacked (Lucas) Bishop from behind. Mr. Bishop received three stab wounds: one to the right shoulder, one adjacent to his spine, and one to his flank near his kidney."

The victim was taken to hospital where he was diagnosed with a partially collapsed lung. He also needed staples to close his wounds.

Harris said the victim did not co-operate with police, and discharged himself from hospital against the advice of health-care professionals.

The incident with Bishop resulted in a charge of aggravated assault.

THE ATTEMPTED MURDER

Based on evidence in the case, Auckland struck again a short time later.

Only 16 minutes after Bishop was stabbed, Auckland entered Andy Livingstone Park, approached a man from behind as he sat on a bench, and stabbed that person as well.

Harris said Auckland stabbed the second victim, Lemma Bartholomeos, "multiple times in the neck and shoulders."

The victim screamed and witnesses called 911. Police found the man lying "in a large pool of blood and with a long gash on his throat."

Paramedics called to the park reported significant blood loss, as well as four stab wounds, the worst of which was 12 centimetres long.

The cuts were deep; Bartholomeos required surgery to his external jugular, esophagus and trachea. There were also mental health impacts, and his injuries meant even after surgery he had difficulty speaking and eating.

This attack led to a charge of attempted murder.

Auckland left the scene before police arrived, but he'd cut himself in the attack, Harris said, and went to hospital to get treatment for his finger.

It was there that he was approached by police, who arrested and interviewed him, getting Auckland to admit to the stabbing of Bartholomeos and to "allude" to the attack on Bishop.

At the time, officers announced only that they'd arrested a man in his 20s in connection with the park stabbing, and that the victim was 54 years old.

THE BACKGROUND

According to police, Auckland told them he'd been drinking before the attacks and smoking meth in the weeks leading up to them.

Harris also outlined some of Auckland's personal circumstances, including that he is just 22 years old.

His grandparents raised him for some time, and they are survivors of Canada's residential school system. Auckland also lived in foster homes, group homes, with other family members and on the street at times. "While a youngster," Harris wrote, Auckland saw alcohol and drug use as well as verbal aggression, violence and neglect.

"Not surprisingly, and sadly, his chaotic upbringing resulted in sporadic supervision and little support," Harris said.

All three of his siblings struggle with substance use, the judge said, and Auckland himself started drinking and using cannabis at the age of 13. He escalated to ketamine within two years, and was using drugs including crystal methamphetamine, LSD and cocaine by age 17 or 18.

He tried to stop, even attending a treatment centre as a teenager, and living in recovery houses after that, but he had "limited success," Harris said.

Since his arrest and release from custody in September 2020, he's made progress while living in another residential treatment home, and his counsellor told the court, "Given the chance and continued guidance, he will continue to improve and be a productive member of society."

The judge took Auckland's counsellor's words into consideration when determining an appropriate sentence, and noted that while there is a criminal record, "it is important to acknowledge the link between his record and his Indigenous heritage."

"Specifically, the disadvantages Mr. Auckland suffered because of his heritage has contributed to his criminality."

His record includes a conviction for assault causing bodily harm when he was a minor, the judge said. As an adult, he's also been convicted of theft, breach of probation and assault with a weapon.

He was on probation when the April 2019 stabbings occurred.

THE SENTENCE

What the judge settled on, in the end, was a sentence of just one day for the attempted murder, noting credit for 42 months served in pre-sentence custody and on restrictive bail conditions that included a curfew and electronic monitoring.

He said the sentence amounts to three years, six months' incarceration.

For the aggravated assault, Harris sentenced Auckland to two years, less a day, followed by two years' probation. That two years less a day will be served in the community on conditions including good behaviour, a curfew, a weapons ban and a prohibition on possession of alcohol and non-prescribed drugs.

He'll also have to participate in some type of counselling or other psychiatric care program.

No victim surcharge was imposed, as the judge noted Harris has been unemployed for years and needs to focus on his rehabilitation, but Auckland is prohibited from possessing certain weapons for life.

He was also ordered to submit a sample of his DNA.


 
Nah it's the corrupt chiefs all the way down. The Indian Act makes sure all the chiefs live decadent lives forever, and they're 100% okay with their own tribes living in filth. Every few months Big Chief Gibsmesdat puts on a headdress and goes on TV to blame whitey and rattle his cup some more.

Because of gladue and reconciliation they can literally bust into your home, murder your kid and get 2 to 5 years with time served and parole. You get 25 to life if you retaliate, unless you yourself are a POC.

If the cops intervene at any point the CBC will run an article of the injun in their grad gown and bemoan the plight of Red Man at the hands of police.

I've heard about the residential schools. I think they were made out to be like the internment camps for the Japs in WW2. :\

I'm curious how Canada treats their Injuns compared to America. I'm gonna look up the Indian Act but could you explain the first paragraph more?
 
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I'm curious how Canada treats their Injuns compared to America. I'm gonna look up the Indian Act but could you explain the first paragraph more?
Second this, In most of the US the indians occupy a role as being either the butt of a joke, owning a random casino, or being fully irrelevant, ive heard from a few people on the internet its common for a reservation to resemble a third world village but never heard enough to verify that, nothing from IRL people though since in the majority of the country the only indians you will find are 1/16th paleskins with an Italian last name. You have to go out of your way to find a community of them. Hearing occasional talk from cannucks makes it sound like the experience they have with them is completely different, namely there being a considerable amount more of them. Any candians want to give me a QRD on the indian question in leafville?
 
One thing I will say for casinos is that they haven't totally wiped out Native poverty, alcoholism, and general dysfunctionality in California, but they have given the tribes power to the point where they're able to sit at the table with the other local power brokers as equals.

Treating adults like they're special needs never ends well.
 
They recently found out that the norse settlers of newfoundland were killed by native americans so I guess we can call it an old fashion war for land.
To be fair, the Norse had a kill first, ask questions later policy which didn't make them a lot of friends. That policy could be connected to why the Greenland colony starved to death.
 
I've heard about the residential schools. I think they were made out to be like the internment camps for the Japs in WW2. :\

I'm curious how Canada treats their Injuns compared to America. I'm gonna look up the Indian Act but could you explain the first paragraph more?
Residential schools were a misguided attempt to turn indian kids into white kids. They moved nomadic tribes onto relatively small reserves and sent all their kids off to school. It was the final nail in an already broken culture. Recent years have ramped up the atrocity/genocide aspect and moved the blame onto the current secular government. You'll never find unbiased facts now. It's an unfortunate part of history but it hardly excuses someone from personal responsibility, in my opinion.

The Indian Act is a piece of legislature that defines the relationship between First Nations and Ottawa. It's completely outdated, it was written in 1876 when the reserves were de facto internment camps run by white Indian Agents. It defines who is an indian, who can run reserves and so on. Basically any funding allocation on reserves still has to pass through the Indian Agent in Ottawa, to this day.

The natives don't talk about it much and any plans to scrap the act are met with hostility because it's entrenched a ruling class. The chief got decided by white man in 1876 and they've used their power on reserve to look after their immediate family. The further your relation from the chief, the worse your life is. Any talk of upsetting the status quo on reserve gets you kicked off, because the band is stacked with the chiefs family and they act unilaterally.

To move forward the Act should be scrapped and rewritten to give the native bands actual self governance. Then we'll see who sinks or swims.

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Natives have taken a ton of culture from American blacks. They love gangs, guns and hip hop. They populate vast swaths of public housing. The real difference is the reserve system. Imagine if ghetto blacks all had a super ghetto out in the boonies, basically.
 
That reminds me of something that happened at my pizzaria, wasnt as severe as that but I feel like sharing it.

My place was fucking broken in the middle of the night and they stole quite some shit, like computers (they were cheap but necessary for the functionality of the business) and our camera equipment. Long story short, the police didnt do jack and shit to help besides saying "duh, we leave an officer to pass by the place rarely during the night"...Im sure they are lying but hey, even if they werent, Im sure that helps a shit ton...

Eventually the guy was only caught because of his own incompetence of trying to do this on the early hours of the morning and try to sneak away with our TV on his bike. The police stopped him because of how absurd the image was and one thing lead to the other.

We only got the TV back, the rest of our things were gone forever since he most likely sold them to buy crack or some other drugs. And my law teacher basically told me to never expect any sort of punishment to the guy. He has no home and he steals shit to exchange for drugs so the law "cant do much to him".

I legit wonder why we cant kill these people then. They clearly only live to hurt others one way or the other and the law "cant do anything" to punish or reabiliate them so WHY keep them around?!

I take it the treatments aren't working well for him.

You know, when those arent working, they usually say its more humane and safe for everyone to put the animal to sleep.

But you apply that to humans and suddenly everyone loses their minds. Apparently its more humane to leave them to age away in prison while having a bed and warm food everyday guaranteed, along with medical care.

These "life sentence" criminals won, no matter what "justice" says
 
I legit wonder why we cant kill these people then. They clearly only live to hurt others one way or the other and the law "cant do anything" to punish or reabiliate them so WHY keep them around?!
Because society would "feel bad" for killing the person. Nevermind the assured harm he'll bring for others, it will be their own private problem rather than society's.
 
I've got native friends and it's come to that point in the conversation a few times: you lost, get the fuck over it. They act like they weren't warring between each other before the white man showed up. Their complaint basically boils down to "No fair! You have nicer toys!"
Exactly the point I've come to with the Native Americans. They had no rule of law, including no property rights. They pillaged, stole, raped, tortured, and enslaved each other. And then one day they met a bigger tribe who was better that the game they were playing. So sorry.

Not that an entire culture being wiped out isn't beyond horrible, but they really don't have much of a leg to stand on in terms of morality.
 
At the end of the day the fault should really lie with the British Crown. They're the ones that orchestrated the events leading to residential schools and cultural genocide.

Liberal politics with a basis around personal freedom will never fix the problem of violent junkies and career criminals. Everything is based around human dignity and assuming people are rational actors. Yeah it would be cruel to round up the homeless and force them to be sober, but it's more cruel to just let them live like they do now.
 
At the end of the day the fault should really lie with the British Crown. They're the ones that orchestrated the events leading to residential schools and cultural genocide.

Liberal politics with a basis around personal freedom will never fix the problem of violent junkies and career criminals. Everything is based around human dignity and assuming people are rational actors. Yeah it would be cruel to round up the homeless and force them to be sober, but it's more cruel to just let them live like they do now.

That's why I'm surprised more people aren't for the legalization of all drugs. It would help eliminate those without self-control.
 
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That's why I'm surprised more people aren't for the legalization of all drugs. It would help eliminate those without self-control.
Fent is doing just fine as it is, give it a few more years.

If the government legalized all drugs and sold them below market rate for 4 years they could probably wipe out the gangs (and most junkies) without a cent more in policing.
 
I've got native friends and it's come to that point in the conversation a few times: you lost, get the fuck over it. They act like they weren't warring between each other before the white man showed up. Their complaint basically boils down to "No fair! You have nicer toys!"

I'm a huge softie when it comes to kids and adolescents so it really makes my blood boil that we maintain the reservation system where they're raped, starved, beaten and neglected at insane rates, all in the name of equality.

The biggest mistake we made with the residential schools was blinking before we finished the job. We could have been a unified nation but now we just leave them to rot.

Residential schools were a misguided attempt to turn indian kids into white kids. They moved nomadic tribes onto relatively small reserves and sent all their kids off to school. It was the final nail in an already broken culture. Recent years have ramped up the atrocity/genocide aspect and moved the blame onto the current secular government. You'll never find unbiased facts now. It's an unfortunate part of history but it hardly excuses someone from personal responsibility, in my opinion.

The Indian Act is a piece of legislature that defines the relationship between First Nations and Ottawa. It's completely outdated, it was written in 1876 when the reserves were de facto internment camps run by white Indian Agents. It defines who is an indian, who can run reserves and so on. Basically any funding allocation on reserves still has to pass through the Indian Agent in Ottawa, to this day.

The natives don't talk about it much and any plans to scrap the act are met with hostility because it's entrenched a ruling class. The chief got decided by white man in 1876 and they've used their power on reserve to look after their immediate family. The further your relation from the chief, the worse your life is. Any talk of upsetting the status quo on reserve gets you kicked off, because the band is stacked with the chiefs family and they act unilaterally.

To move forward the Act should be scrapped and rewritten to give the native bands actual self governance. Then we'll see who sinks or swims.

@WickyWickyWoW
Natives have taken a ton of culture from American blacks. They love gangs, guns and hip hop. They populate vast swaths of public housing. The real difference is the reserve system. Imagine if ghetto blacks all had a super ghetto out in the boonies, basically.
People who are wholly conquered - black Americans, indigenous people, are essentially ruined. They have no mother land, no mother tongue. The nuclear family is abandoned. The mistake of the whites was one of laziness, miserliness, and disorganization. You don't 'liberate' your slaves and leave them wandering your lands. You don't set up little play areas for the surviving indigenous. You kill them.

Half measures have created such ordeals for the anglos. I wonder if they'll ever learn. Indigenous with an ounce of ambition or common sense leave the rez and don't go back. Or LOL their family gets banned for outrageous behavior, but what would i know about that. :story:
 
Native history is kind of strange because for probably 200 years there was no desire to conquer them. Canada was used only as a supply of beaver pelts and natives were left to their own devices as to how to supply them. The influx of European goods ruined tribal relations and shifted balances of power. It wasn't until fairly far into the 1800s that anyone tried actually colonizing.

By that time their culture was one of pelt trappers going back 150 years and the "true" indigenous culture was gone.

Would it have been less cruel to kill them or doom them to generations of misery? I don't know, either option is a little depressing.
 
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the few indian ive met where all looking like any other white person that if they didnt tell you, you would never know. 1 was a federal employee using that indjun cred to get in job hes not qualified and deal with indjun matter even though he looked like a redneck. The other was a friend of my mom with the biggest tits i had ever seen. As far as i know she was off the reservation so she was pretty normal. Im sure ive met a couple more and probably never noticed. The further north you go the more rez indjun you gonna meet.
 
The sentence for two aggravated assaults - not even four years. Wonder if the judge would have given the same sentence if one of his loved ones had been a victim here.

The attempted murderer needs a helicopter ride.
 
Native history is kind of strange because for probably 200 years there was no desire to conquer them. Canada was used only as a supply of beaver pelts and natives were left to their own devices as to how to supply them. The influx of European goods ruined tribal relations and shifted balances of power. It wasn't until fairly far into the 1800s that anyone tried actually colonizing.

By that time their culture was one of pelt trappers going back 150 years and the "true" indigenous culture was gone.

Would it have been less cruel to kill them or doom them to generations of misery? I don't know, either option is a little depressing.
American natives didn't wind up all that differently, sadly. The Plains Tribes went from a bunch of on-foot slow and steady trackers following the herds to some surprisingly passable heirs of Genghis Khan as a result of how hilariously rapidly and completely they adopted and integrated horses into their society and culture. Some of Tecumseh's biggest opponents in his quest to reject modernity and embrace tradition were his fellow natives who really, really liked things like guns and agriculture and didn't feel like giving up the benefits of such.

EDIT: There was even a full-blown civil war among the Creek over adopting the white man's ways. Give you one guess who kicked it off, and it wasn't the ones who just wanted to grill farm.
 
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