Science March for Science

So a bunch of people gathered to stage a protest or something directed at PMURT and the dumb Republicans who voted for him because he's anti-science and probably believes in God lol what a fag.

Although there seems to be a misunderstanding between what is science-fiction and actual science among these people.

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Le Science Man and Le Science Black Man for 2020 also they are very sciencey because they are celebrities.

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It is also time for science to stop being based on merits and results, and seize the means of obtaining Nobel Prizes, because marxism and egalitarianism are the most efficient ideologies as demonstrated by history.

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But overall I agree with the general sentiment of this demonstration: that is, that politicians are disregarding scientific evidence when taking certain actions. In fact, I don't think I have ever seen any politician consider this piece of scientific data.
 
Didn't Trump increase NASAs funding by a fuckload?
And spoke about being on the cusp of exploring the mysteries of space in his inaugural address.

In response to the sign about peer-review evidence a thing that matters, I guess that logic means advancements in science where peer-review wasn't even a concept aren't real scientific advancements :c
 
How many protests will have to happen before people realize that they are really poor methods of achieving social change? All the protests that have happened in the last six months are more like convention parties. Does anyone seriously think that Power finds pink hats or signs with clever zingers to be a threat?
 
How many protests will have to happen before people realize that they are really poor methods of achieving social change? All the protests that have happened in the last six months are more like convention parties. Does anyone seriously think that Power finds pink hats or signs with clever zingers to be a threat?
I was thinking about this today..
  • Stage protest. Spend money on travel, restaurants, hotels, taxis. Oh, and like $10 for your gay sign. Economy improves ever so slightly, which Trump will take full credit for.
  • Take money that would be spent on your gay facebook selfie pilgrimage and create a PAC with like minded people. If nothing else, you can at least pretend you are contributing something substantial to the political process.
If you choose the first option, you are American and should probably die of acute global warmth anyway.
 
I hate this shit. No, marching never solves anything. Certainly not the problems of funding. Especially not with a president that is actively antagonistic. Another empty, feel good, virtue signaling garbage parade.

Science needs to lobby and speak to the Congress and Senate directly. With experts who have worked in the field and aren't identified as partisan. Not to mention he is incredibly partisan. Science isn't supposed to be conservative or liberal. It suffers from human foibles and politics, yes. Its bad enough the entire field of climate science is a nuclear landmine politically, we don't need all of science to be that way. Science itself has enough trouble doing work well enough to understand nature without political meddling.

And science gets things wrong, including experts. The guy who pioneered energy metabolism and is the foundation (and nightmare of biochem students) was rejected from Nature who thought his idea was a joke. The biologist who found stress proteins encountered people who wouldn't fund his work in the 1960s because they were, and I quote, 'not biologically relevant'.I am fucking tired of Bill Nye and its like sacrilegious to smear his name. Stop making science partisan. The government is just aching for you to do it and then pull out scientists on 'its' side. Then the government can frame it as their 'credible experts' vs. a 'former kid's show host and comedian who never did science a day in his life'. You will lose. And nobody with funding wants to go to battle with the government. Yeah, lets make grants much harder by politicizing them. Go fuck yourself.

The 'March for Science' doesn't have real science backing for the same reason many scientists don't want to be politicians. They don't want to be political. Whenever science gets into politics, shit goes very bad. Lysenkoisim was promoted in Russia because a scientist courted politicians and had all his enemies killed, silenced or thrown into the Gulag. Race Science was huge in the 1930s and 1940s, only stopping because of what the Germans did.

All STEM funding should be increased (Social Science can go eat an inter-sectional cock for all I care). But it should be removed of politics. This is not the way to do that.
 
Is that shit for general audience?! When I hear something being described as a "science talk show" I might be tempted to bring the kids.
 
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That video is full of so much cringe and retardation, I couldn't resist throwing a little shit on the parade. I'll counter it with an actual science lesson that's not made for adult children. And its about sex and gender, too! In fact, its on one of these people's favorite topics: Gender Identity as a Social Construct. You hear all of these ideas being tossed around, but you never really hear how they started or who started them or how they got to that conclusion. I'm going to tell you. And when I'm done, you'll know why people don't tell you its origins.

We're going to go back around the late-1950s to early-1970s. In this period, sex psychology was in vogue. Alfred Kinsey had laid the foundation and basically broke out all the taboos regarding it. So you had some really good studies, like Masters & Johnson. And then you have people like Dr. John Money. In 1965, twin boys went in for a routine circumcision. Unfortunately, it went bad for one of the boys, David. His penis was irrevocably damaged during the operation. Money was a prominent psychological researcher and he recommended to the parents to have the boy undergo a sex change, because he felt plastic surgery was not advanced enough at the time. Though, no one can be sure if plastic surgery could have helped. Because Money had a motive he hid from the boy's parents and he pushed the sex-change hard. This was because Money had a theory that Nurture was more important than Nature (an argument you hear a lot) in determining gender roles (Money is also responsible for the term gender role).

As to why this particular boy, the answer lies in the fact that they were twins. To those of you not familiar with research, twin studies are often the strongest because of genetic similarity, one serving as a perfect control of the other. To this day, twin studies are extremely strong evidence of something. Now, what happened was that the boy underwent the sex change. They removed his testicles and fashioned a vulva. He took hormone treatments and was raised as a girl. Neither the parents nor Money ever revealed the fact that he was actually a boy. The parents bought him dolls and dresses, the whole nine. But, here comes the kicker. The boy, now called Brenda, started to, well, act like a boy at the age of 7. Money did not like this. He forced 'Brenda' to realize that he was female. Not only that, in interviews later on he claimed the following:

He said as a child, Money forced him go "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks", and that Money forced David to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Money reportedly took photographs of the two children doing these activities. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity"

Eventually, even with the hormones, without further reconstructive surgery puberty took hold and by 13, Brenda started acting more masculine. By 14, he was told the truth. He stopped the hormones, took back his name David and underwent reconstructive surgery to his penis. This story doesn't end there. Money never reported this. In fact, quite the opposite. He reported the experiment was a resounding success. Money lied to everyone's faces and his theories were taken up as fact. It was only 32 years later, in 1997, when the story came out in a rolling stone article. Nothing Money ever did worked. He ALWAYS felt male. Even though this research was touted as a success. This lead to thousands of infants being gender reassigned, who were intersex. Money was discredited, but he claimed that it was the evil 'anti-feminists' and 'right wing media' (If you consider Rolling Stone Right Wing) who did him in as a smear campaign.

This story doesn't have a happy ending. In 2000, Bruce, David's twin, committed suicide by overdosing on anti-depressants. In 2004, at the age of 38, David killed himself with a sawed-off shotgun blast to the head. So. Now you know where the 'science' of gender identity came from and perhaps the most unethical psychology study I've ever read.

There is something that can be learned from this, though. Money, for all his beliefs, proved the opposite of what he sought. There's more evidence for gender roles being Nature, rather than being Nurture. That experts, no matter how well-versed and respected, can still be predatory and blinded by their own personal biases. And that science isn't a religion, it isn't politics. Its fallible and the last thing it needs is people following their personal politics, going looking for things they already believe are true rather than just simply looking.
 
There is something that can be learned from this, though. Money, for all his beliefs, proved the opposite of what he sought. There's more evidence for gender roles being Nature, rather than being Nurture. That experts, no matter how well-versed and respected, can still be predatory and blinded by their own personal biases. And that science isn't a religion, it isn't politics. Its fallible and the last thing it needs is people following their personal politics, going looking for things they already believe are true rather than just simply looking.

Yet, despite all this, this discredited nonsense is still central to the tranny theory of gender that is pimped to this day and you're a literal Nazi if you don't agree with it.
 
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