Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

@Lemmingwiser i am surprised you didn’t realize that I have tried these things. I was on the goddamn collegiate rowing team, in the A boat, bow seat, tyvm, i have medals, i married the men’s 2 seat, i lift, & I can handle a dog that can drag your patsy ass down the street. Please don’t tell me I haven’t dieted hard enough. I’ve been fat since age 10, I have dieted and exercised since age 14, & it sort of worked for awhile but pregnancy can really throw your body for a loop. You don’t have a choice: you will gain weight, it’s a fait accompli. I’m not surprised your teeny little brain can’t appreciate that, since it’s a predicament you will never have to contend with.

More now than ever I’m inclined to think that obesity is a disease like hypertension. It runs on both sides of my family, causing cardiac problems and strokes and joint failures. I still exercise for the mental health benefits and the ability to simply be strong and move things when I want to. You can affect it a little bit through lifestyle changes but there’s no point dragging yourself over the coals for now getting those numbers down. This medication is far from a free lunch… I feel sick all the time.

I wish you’d refrain from sticking your oar in every other week. It suggests that your best claim to fame involves me.

@Stan many of the individuals with threads in this section have used that drug and not a single one of them has had noticeable, sustained weight loss from it. Chantal had the best results but she was also doing cocaine at the time.
Those girls are pussies, I’m not. At some point I’ll post results photos.
 
I have dieted and exercised since age 14, & it sort of worked for awhile
So you know how it works, but you suck at it.

You said the drug lets you be satisfied with 2 cookies as dessert instead of 6 and that tells everyone all they need to know.

The very key to dieting effectively is to accept not being satisfied. It is very temporary because as soon as you hit the desired healthy weight, you don't have to live in caloric deficit anymore. You say you have tried it, but you obviously haven't done it. There's a difference between trying to listen to advice and listening to advice. Between trying and actually just doing.

I guess it's like trying to leave this site as your priest recommended. You just can't help yourself. Since you keep talking about fame, I'd say that's what draws you to it. The attention.

Also half the female college athletes I knew were fat too. Female athletics really isn't a big claim to fame because the competititon is piss poor. I've had friendly bouts in my general athletic area with 2 world champions in their respective fields and I defeated them in friendly bouts. And I wasn't even a national champion. If you've got olympic medals it's something to brag about, but otherwise they're mostly participation prizes.

I wish you’d refrain from sticking your oar in every other week
Stop thinking about my oar you creep.
 
Don't let the contradiction in terms stop you. I don't know on what pretense they're priests when they're not cohanim. Pastor has a beautiful etymology and distinctly Christian meaning. You'd think the church wouldn't call a guy pope when it means father, and wouldn't call any man father anyway. But what do I know.
 
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exercise is mostly negligible in terms of losing weight; it takes much more effort to burn off a cookie than it does to just not eat it
It depends a lot on the context. If you do lengthy cardio sessions is not negligible at all. A long run over 2 hours easily burns 2K calories, far more if you're fat/large.
A lot of people are very sedentary and mostly sit down at work and at home. One hour of cardio/day inserted makes up for modern life sedentarism.
Also, if you're like me and run a lot/eat kinda a lot, stopping the workouts has a catastrophic effect on weight. Injured for 2 weeks for me means 5kgs gain most often and loss of performance that will take me a month or two to regain.
We're meant to live active lives, fuel a lot, sleep a lot, work a lot. We're not meant to live on a near-empty stomach. Plus eating is fun. Just like working out.
 
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So you know how it works, but you suck at it.

You said the drug lets you be satisfied with 2 cookies as dessert instead of 6 and that tells everyone all they need to know.
Bugger off. Do you remember that time you told me you don’t believe in the mainstream Holocaust narrative because “it just doesn’t seem believable”? As in, your best reason not to believe the Holocaust happened is that it doesn’t pass your ideological sniff test?

This is just about as stupid as that. I’m telling you that clinical trials were done; ie randomized controlled double blind studies that prove GLP-1 inhibitors help people lose more weight than diet and exercise alone. And further studies show that for people who are overweight, it’s usually not enough to just fat-shame them and tell them to use “willpower”. Their metabolic thermostat is configured to pack on the pounds. You see it in those “naturally skinny” people too, the ones who eat whatever they want through their 30s and don’t gain weight.

Do you understand how stupid you sound when you just dismiss vetted evidence because you don’t want to believe it’s true/ it seems like it couldn’t be true?

Just because some drywall guy in Antwerp (you) refuses to believe in science and history, does not invalidate their findings. Ffs it’s like you think the world revolves around you and that Ozempic needs your seal of approval to be effective. If you decided the water cycle didn’t make sense, do you think it would stop raining?

You fucking nitwit.

The grammatical dissonance of the phrase "female priest" hurts me inside. Shouldn't it be priestess?
Typically we use Reverend or Rev., e.g. Rev Alice, for women and “Father” or Fr. For men, eg Father Bob.

You could use the term “Mother” to describe a female Anglican priest but it most people don’t.

I think “priestess” would be painfully weird in a Christian context, it sounds way too pagan.
 
Bugger off. Do you remember that time you told me you don’t believe in the mainstream Holocaust narrative because “it just doesn’t seem believable”? As in, your best reason not to believe the Holocaust happened is that it doesn’t pass your ideological sniff test?
Last time this conversation was brought up here I started BTFOing you until one of the literally Jewish mods decided to move it all to spergatory. So I'd take that as a sign to not bring it up. I personally think this is really unfair, as it's one of your main sperging points and it is ridiculously easy to own your double digit IQ arse over, but the mods have the final say.

So have you overdosed on fat meds yet you round cunt? Liver hurting yet?
 
And further studies show that for people who are overweight, it’s usually not enough to just fat-shame them and tell them to use “willpower”.
Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins, Marge. As for willpower, ask the Holy Spirit for self-control. It's one of the gifts of the Spirit. Use it to learn to govern your impulses.
Their metabolic thermostat is configured to pack on the pounds.
"Fat genes" pseudoscience. If you store calories you don't take in, give NASA a call. They could use the free energy you unaccountably make.
You see it in those “naturally skinny” people too, the ones who eat whatever they want through their 30s and don’t gain weight.
"Skinny genes" pseudoscience, and a common fatty cope. "I should be able to eat like them!" Yeah, six cookies after dinner isn't eating "like them," you only imagine that to justify your jealous resentment.
 
Her advice. Marge's priest is a pussy with an unwarranted sense of religious significance, aka a female priest.
You are damaged goods. You literally hate women for just existing in roles you don't want them to occupy. Because you know fuck-all about my boss, except her sex and that she occupies a leadership position in a mainline Anglican church. And I guess you need to seethe and sneed here, to me, another woman you do not know.

You're a slug, middlemarch. I believe I met you on the Holocaust Denial thread. You claim you're an Orthodox Jew... and yet, you deny or would like to revise the horribleness of the Shoah into something more conscionable. WTF.

You're fucking damaged. You're a disgrace to your family. You're an incorrigible cocksucker who couldn't hack Orthodox Jewish cultural normalcy. You hate women because you can't be with women. You follow me around this forum and make shithead comments about anything you can, because you wish my life was yours. Appearances aside: you wish you had married a husband who loves you and a precious daughter to cherish. You wish you had the potential to have more children, but you can't, because pussy disgusts you like a ripe durian. You wish you had the generational wealth to be an idle dilletante, as I am. I can tell because you're also incensed that I have money, and the liberty to live my life on my terms, but you cannot live in the Beit Din and suck the rebbe's cock like you wish.

The jealousy just wafts off your posts like stink from the garbage when I drive it to the waste transfer center on Saturdays.

If I could give you one decent piece of advice: stop trying to shift your own self-hatred onto women. Stop trying to project your self-hate onto me. It makes you feel better for like, 20 minutes, but then you realize that wherever you go, there you fucking are.

I really am sorry for you. If I could give you a little relief from your personal hell, I would. But this is up to you, your therapist, and getting into a shul that accepts you as God made you.

Best,
STAN
 
You're a slug, middlemarch. I believe I met you on the Holocaust Denial thread. You claim you're an Orthodox Jew... and yet, you deny or would like to revise the horribleness of the Shoah into something m
@Trombonista
This is the second time in 24 hours she's bringing up holocaust denial here. Last time that happened, 2 pages from here got sent to spergatory, by you, when I started arguing back with her and winning.
What are the rules here? She brought it up when it was discussed last time. Are we banned from giving it back to this fat cow? Does she get special treatment?
 
I’m telling you that clinical trials were done; ie randomized controlled double blind studies that prove GLP-1 inhibitors help people lose more weight than diet and exercise alone.
People that cut off their foot also lose more weight than those who diet and exercise alone.

And that's assuming this isn't one of thousands of studies that is a false positive or even intentionally fudged so that they can actually publish (and not perish).

it’s usually not enough to just fat-shame them and tell them to use “willpower”
This I agree with. They have to actually want it enough and prefer the pain of suffering over the more long term and less immediate pain of being fat.

Also I don't really believe in fat shaming as a generally effective method, because it can lead to a negative feedback loop. It's healthier to simultaneously be happy about yourself and your body AND change it because you care about yourself and your health. A positive self image and positive relation with the body is helpful towards optimistically persuing goals.

If you decided the water cycle didn’t make sense, do you think it would stop raining?
You're the one denying the basic math of energy and mass. Your body can't store energy you don't put into it.
 
It doesn't bother me any. My comments there speak for themselves. Mostly I was arguing with Matthew Ghobrail Cockerill / @History Speaks.

That and the official body count for Auschwitz dropped from 4 million to 1.5 million. How was their count off by over half? Where did they get 2.5 million additional people? Why did it take so long to correct it? Why won't they admit their mistakes? And what else is wrong?
 
People that cut off their foot also lose more weight than those who diet and exercise alone.
They're gonna take her foot one day ...
They have to actually want it enough and prefer the pain of suffering over the more long term and less immediate pain of being fat. Also I don't really believe in fat shaming as a generally effective method, because it can lead to a negative feedback loop.
The pendulum has swung so far from fat shaming that it passed neutral and is hovering over the other extreme: fat is healthy, you should be proud to be fat, fat is your identity and should be a protected class, fatphobia is an attempt at bringing "anti-hate" rhetoric into it to frame it as an issue of bigotry.
 
You literally hate women for just existing in roles you don't want them to occupy.
Fairly certain the role of priest is traditionally reserved for men. I'm sure there's a spiritual explanation for why this is in the Torah or the Psalms or something that I'm too lazy to know about.
 
@Trombonista
This is the second time in 24 hours she's bringing up holocaust denial here. Last time that happened, 2 pages from here got sent to spergatory, by you, when I started arguing back with her and winning.
What are the rules here? She brought it up when it was discussed last time. Are we banned from giving it back to this fat cow? Does she get special treatment?
Why not just let her make her claims about holocaust denial? It's just bait anyways. An attempt to leave the orbit of the weightier topics.

A long run over 2 hours easily burns 2K calories, far more if you're fat/large.
I don't think fat people joints can handle 2 hours of running, let alone recently pregnant women. Women already have looser joints and particularly during and after pregnancy there are hormones that loosen them further.

You're right that cardio can burn off energy but compare the effort of running for 2 hours to not eating 8 cookies, as they're about the same caloric content.

Also in the long term exercise that builds muscle is a more effect fat loss strategy. You might not lose as much weight because muscle is heavier than fat, but muscle takes more energy to maintain so your daily base energy expenditure goes up. The only problem that it's harder to track because you need more than just a scale to track declining fat storage.
 
@Trombonista
This is the second time in 24 hours she's bringing up holocaust denial here. Last time that happened, 2 pages from here got sent to spergatory, by you, when I started arguing back with her and winning.
What are the rules here? She brought it up when it was discussed last time. Are we banned from giving it back to this fat cow? Does she get special treatment?
The posts I moved did not involve Margaret Pless. That being said, I would prefer Holocaust sperging take place in Deep Thoughts or Mass Debates, but if you're directly quoting @Stan, it can stay.
 
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