Marijan Š Šiklić Article

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@Holden has complained about the following page whom @Cephalometrist is the sole contributor to.

http://lolcow.wiki/wiki/User:Cephalometrist/Holden_Draft

<Holden> i have a question
<KiwiNull> what's that?
<Holden> why does that wiki thing where i am mentioned contained unverifiable claims? like that " i didn't understand some arguments". this would have to be somehow proven using screencaps and logic. otherwise anybody can say whatever they want. anyway, just tell me if i am wasting my time and your wiki is just a troll wiki that doesn't care about truth.
<KiwiNull> Ideally, any claims on the wiki should be backed up.
<KiwiNull> Is there no ref tag used?
<Holden> so why does the part about me have so many unverifiable claims? same with what that idiots cephalometrist is writing. he has not a shred of evidence that i have violent fantasies. do i look like a guy who'd hide that? still, he wrote that despite it being nonsense. where could i report your wiki? hell, it includes my supposed full name, even though i only gave me first name.
<KiwiNull> I'm going to go ahead and open the Wiki Discussion board. If you want to make a thread there and dispute things, that'd be the place to do it.
<Holden> it seems i can't post there
<KiwiNull> yea I know, give me a second
<KiwiNull> I'm going to make it public

Edit: I've also opened this board. Anyone can post, but please stay on topic. Draw shit flinging to the 900 page thread in Lolcow.
 
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Holden said:
I will make some complaints starting with Null's nonsense. If you don't want to acknowledge that I won't even bother with the rest and will just accept you don't want to say the truth but nonsense and slander.
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do you have a list of discrepancies? an itemized detailed list of grievances works much better than just a lazy "all of it"
 
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Null said:
@Holden has complained about the following page whom @Cephalometrist is the sole contributor to.

http://lolcow.wiki/wiki/User:Cephalometrist/Holden_Draft

<Holden> i have a question
<KiwiNull> what's that?
<Holden> why does that wiki thing where i am mentioned contained unverifiable claims? like that " i didn't understand some arguments". this would have to be somehow proven using screencaps and logic. otherwise anybody can say whatever they want. anyway, just tell me if i am wasting my time and your wiki is just a troll wiki that doesn't care about truth.
<KiwiNull> Ideally, any claims on the wiki should be backed up.
<KiwiNull> Is there no ref tag used?
<Holden> so why does the part about me have so many unverifiable claims? same with what that idiots cephalometrist is writing. he has not a shred of evidence that i have violent fantasies. do i look like a guy who'd hide that? still, he wrote that despite it being nonsense. where could i report your wiki? hell, it includes my supposed full name, even though i only gave me first name.
<KiwiNull> I'm going to go ahead and open the Wiki Discussion board. If you want to make a thread there and dispute things, that'd be the place to do it.
<Holden> it seems i can't post there
<KiwiNull> yea I know, give me a second
<KiwiNull> I'm going to make it public

Edit: I've also opened this board. Anyone can post, but please stay on topic. Draw shit flinging to the 900 page thread in Lolcow.
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Alright, I was going to make a Holden article, but someone actually did it! Great!
I'll add to it later today, get Holden's admission that he'd have sex with a 12 year old, add something of a biography, and include his asking his mother for sex.
 
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There is a reason why I have called the site "draft", why I have added the "under construction" template and why I didn't use an official site name, but made a subpage on my profile instead. I know the article isn't up to par, both in terms of content and neutrality.

Holden said:
i have violent fantasies
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I provided six links to different posts in the forum and one to your blog. Hope that suffices.

Holden said:
it includes my supposed full name, even though i only gave me first name.
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Yeah, there's a bit of speculation involved, but I think the likelyhood of your name being "Marijan Škugor Šiklić" is quite high, you have to thank the spergy friend you had here for that. I'm not very acquainted with Croatian naming customs, but you probably can leave out your middle name if you want to. Besides, I have found a list of primary school classes in Zagreb from 2002, with one "Marijan Šiklić" being in seventh grade (age 13ish class) at that time. So I'm pretty sure we do know your real name.

@Null, since it is official now: Should I use my draft as official "Marijan Siklic" page?
And can we create subpages for official articles? Because then I'd suggest that my Holden Archive should become a subpage of Marijan's article.

Oh, and @Holden
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Cephalometrist said:
There is a reason why I have called the site "draft",
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completely irrelevant to what my complaint will be. null made some dumb claims in his text. you are a mentally ill person obsessing with me. if null keeps you around here he is out of his of fucking mind. your pictures of my supposed house or any single pic i posted (of people that aren't me) are creepy and sick. anybody who has any sense will ban you from this site. you are a lunatic.
 
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Cephalometrist said:
I provided six links to different posts in the forum and one to your blog. Hope that suffices.
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Worth mentioning that individual citations should receive their own <ref> tag, even if they are backing up the same claim. Give them a name, like:

<ref name="kiwi-post-rape-1">{{kiwi|/post/post_id/}}</ref>

Then, if you ever need to cite that again, you can just do:

<ref name="kiwi-post-rape-1" />
 
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Ok, first Null's writings

http://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

1. You have no way of knowing my surname. In fact, you can't even know my name for sure but that I gave when I posted the Spiegel article so I can't complain.

2. Next, your claims

"women are all thoughtless whores who enjoy rape"

You haven't sourced it. Unsurprising, since it's a lie. I said modern Western women.

" he's a nice guy"

Find me when I used this word for myself and I'll make a YT video of me dancing naked.

" All of his posts were marked by lack of evidence other than his own blog, "

A lie. I posted various studies, books and even graphs. Like the UN graph, and an entire list of books.

"numerous logical facilities"

In order to say that you'd need to cite an example and explain why. You don't do this. You just state.

" and dismissal others arguments as 'liberal logic'"

there is no such thing as liberal logic and even if i did use the terms once or twice (maybe, dunno) it wasn't to dismiss actual arguments.

All of the above are unsourced by you.

" he admitted to blackmailing a women into having sex with him"

I don't think so, Null. It is you who claims this happened and is sourcing it with my post that doesn't admit this. I don't think it happened, and neither do the women you claim this happened to.

"and attempting to get his mother to have sex with him"

It was later explained to macie that I would have never really gone through with it.

"When questioned by other posters, he did not understand their opposition to these viewpoints."

Unsourced, backed by your ass.

I am waiting for your questions or comments. I think I was honest and truthful.
 
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A lot of what you attribute to me was not written by me, but I will deal with it for you.

Holden said:
1. You have no way of knowing my surname. In fact, you can't even know my name for sure but that I gave when I posted the Spiegel article so I can't complain.
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All accounts indicate this is your name and you yourself gave it away, but I'm not sure. I'm also unsure about your first name. It's either Marijan or Marjan. I'm not familiar with Eastern European culture so either is alien to me. Marijan sounds more correct, though.

For consistency's sake, you will be referred to as Marijan Š Šiklić or ThatIncelBlogger or GovernmentGetsGirlfriends.

Holden said:
"women are all thoughtless whores who enjoy rape"
" he's a nice guy"
" All of his posts were marked by lack of evidence other than his own blog, "
"numerous logical facilities"
" and dismissal others arguments as 'liberal logic'"
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I've reworded all these.

Review:
http://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Marijan_.C5.A0_.C5.A0ikli.C4.87
 
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I wouldn't have reworded the "nice guy" part. Marjan uses the same dichotomy that self-proclaimed nice guys do: Decent men/providers (i.e. nice guys) are still alone while the stupid ladies love their rape apes/seducers (i.e. jerks/assholes).
It is the same kind of bullshit, the difference is that this is rehashed Fschmidt brand bullshit.

I also moved my draft of his article to the headword Marijan Š Šiklić, so everybody: please feel free to contribute to the article and discuss it.
I'd be grateful for every feedback.

@Null: Can you rename this thread to "Marijan Š Šiklić Article" or something like that? I really don't think we need yet another thread about Marjan.
 
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I wouldn't have reworded the "nice guy" part. Marjan uses the same dichotomy that self-proclaimed nice guys do: Decent men/providers (i.e. nice guys) are still alone while the stupid ladies love their rape apes/seducers (i.e. jerks/assholes).
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Searching Marijan's post history and the word nice guy brings up 2 pages of him delcaring he is not a nice guy. It's not the wiki's job to insult him. If it's unsubstantiated, it's not allowed t be inferred.

Cephalometrist said:
@Null: Can you rename this thread to "Marijan Š Šiklić Article" or something like that? I really don't think we need yet another thread about Marjan.
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Sure.
 
anyway, null, again, it seems you have fixed some but fixed a good number badly and added others

1. You still don't have my surname. You just changed it to some other version of my name but

"that "modern women" are all thoughtless whores who enjoy rape"

Modern WESTERN women. By saying what you claim now you're once again incorrect, as this could apply to even modern women outside of feminist countries.

"Marijan conducts most of his own research when building these claims"

Umm, what? I conduct my own research? What does that even mean?

" and considers himself a well-studied person on romance"

You source this by this discussion? Umm, what? Again, something you pulled out of your ass.

" He is accused of blackmailing a women into having sex with him"

Just remember to say it is an accusation made my posters online, not some court or even these women.

"The circumstances regarding the blackmail entail a plot to have a child with a schizophrenic woman,[20] but if she consented for selfish reasons (such as money) or if she was blackmailed into bearing his child remain unclear."

They remain pretty clear. I never said she was blackmailed or even accepted money.

"Despite his fears, he has actually faced legal problems for threatening to commit suicide and abusing his mother."

What? No. What you try to source it with doesn't confirm this.

" He has later backtracked on this and stated that he wouldn't have actually gone through with it if she were to agree."

I haven't backtracked at all. Had I backtracked I'd first claimed I really wanted it and then not.

Anyway, Null, can I please have an acc there? It would be much easier that way. I can't fix the things you say if you make up new and new lies.
 
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