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I still miss 8chan even with how autistic Mark was and how fucking disgusting some boards were, 8chan/pol/, /a/ and /v/ were generally the perfect speed for image boards.
Some of the more funny shit to come of it were the /bane/ board and all the dead boards being spammed with the brown pill text or even the whole /leftypol/ tranny jannies.

Everywhere is just splinter sites now with most just being dead.
My personal favorite was /just/, a small, obscure board dedicated to Brendan Fraser. It had some of the funniest OC I've ever seen on imageboards, real shame it's probably lost forever. They even managed to sneak poor Brendan into the list of people known as "the Just" on Wikipedo for a while, before some funpolice janny found out and removed him.
 
Long time lurker(dating back to days before this place was even called "Kiwi Farms" and Jace was still thought to be a lolcow) so I figured I might as well make an account at this point.
I've been posting on 8chan's /v/ board in it's many forms for years, long enough to get tired of the users, the drama and the jew(and his pet pedophile Acidman) running things. I've fucked with them for quite a while, even back before original 8chan shutdown. Despite what they will tell you, many of their users are not "oldfags", but rather 4chan rejects/failed normalfags that always thought they were superior for being part of a "secret club", this goes double for the Gamergate General crowd especially.
Nowdays, as you're all aware, the site and community is dead. What remains of it are mostly pedophiles, due to the /hebe/ incident, and whoever is left on the site are mostly crossposters that go on 4chan/kiwi farms/soyjak party/reddit/twitter and other adjacent sites on daily bases while treating the one active thread the board has as a place to politi sperg or dump anime porn. Very sad state of affairs, but I can tell you that general wasn't any better on original 8chan, just more populated. Moreover, it was much simpler to ignore it when the board was populated by many video game threads, as Gamergate drama(usually) didn't leak out of it's containment thread, much like the /v/ board on 4chan usually doesn't deal with the drama that individual /vg/ boards harbor.
Now, 8/v/ IS Gamergate general, barely any other threads have any activity and the board is notorious for being offtopic due to there being zero activity on other non-spanish speaking or fetish boards(such as /blacked/ or /delicious/, one being exactly what you think it is and the other being dedicated to drawn child porn), making /v/ the go-to watercooler board to post about whatever, video games or not.
As you might suspect, this led to quite a bit of trolling over the years, with many boogeymen being fetishized to the point where there is OC being made of them. I will try and outline some here:

Niggerpill: Mark considers hearing anything he doesn't like as "Niggerpilling", a derivative of Blackpilling because funny Nigger word. Anyone can be considered a "Niggerpill" as long as you say something that goes against the narrative of "Gamergate won". Example "Japan is pozzed", "X thing in politics where liberals or globohomo succeeded happened" or "Gamergate lost and accomplished nothing, move on" are all perfect candidates to get your posts pruned and get banned for "Niggerpilling". There is no one single Niggerpill, as it is a variety of trolls with different posting styles. Sometimes, these are obvious trolls(Which get quite a bit of reaction from the users, as most are thin skinned failed normalfags, as I mentioned), othertimes posts in good faith that are on topic get treated just like spam and dealt with as such, in other words post deleted and poster banned. The users have gotten so delusional about "Taking Down Niggerpill" that they started doxxing random people who they think might be him(it's a different person every time I visit them), and AcidMan(Owner of the site, Pedophile) even went as far as to say he will sue them(LOL). Good luck bringing up any instance of Japan "bowing down to globohomo" such as studios getting westernized and putting LGBT flags/pronouns in their games without being finger pointed and promptly banned, on 8/v/, you have to pretend it's 2013 and Japan is the savior of the gaming industry

Luciano: As far as I am aware, he was an infamous commentator on OneAngryGamer(Gamergate adjacent news site) and was around even before the fall of 8chan. Luciano is the opposite of Niggerpill, often politisperging about how the jews need to be murdered and how Gamergate will become eternally victorious. The chances of that one user not just hanging around fringe imageboards, but never changing his postingstyle or even confronting the board about his "identity' as a spammer means that there is nearly a 0% chance it is a genuine "Luciano" and it's most likely just another troll identity, likely by the same people who Niggerpill post. Basically, just another reason for moderation to delete your posts, as if there was any more excuses they needed, they often both post at around the same time as well

Eden Altmeyer: Info on him(and a working link to his dox) can be found here: https://archive.md/Cu8UF
A former mod on 8/v/ who was responsible for untold amount of damage to the webring, and even 8chan before it's destruction. Details can be found in the link above, he is known mostly for his actions OUTSIDE the board, such as trying to engage in board to board warfare. Good example would be him copying a thread made on 8/v/ and posting it on zzzchan's /v/(another now dead altchan that fizzled out due to drama, known for being a good alternative in the early years if you didn't like Mark and didn't want to deal with him). He would then contact Mark on discord and tell him about it, which led to Mark sperging and oftentimes deleting the original thread on 8/v/. Eden engaged in shenanigans like this for years, seemingly getting off on corrupting alt communities and pitting them against one another, and Mark was a perfect pawn for him to engage in souring relations between two webring boards(Note: 8chan.moe is no longer on the webring due to /hebe/ drama, something Acidman(Pedophile) still cannot get over to this day)
Speaking of /hebe/...


LCP(Lower Case Pedo): The newest boogeymen that is getting blamed for most bans on the site as of late. During the /hebe/ debacle(Where Acid thought it would be a good idea to make a "Legal Child Porn" board as "Pedophiles have rights, too") that left the site with most of it's userbase leaving for green pastures(usually 4chan or zzzchan) and it's reputation forever ruined, 8moe has taken a drastic turn to correct the course and "fix it's reputation" ever since. To that end, they started throwing every expandable moderator under the bus to save their own skins, so that the site wouldn't be seen as a haven for pedophiles and instead a misunderstanding that only happened due to a few bad apples(They even celebrated "VP" day recently, where they cherish that they kicked out all the pedophiles...as the thread itself the declaration was being posted in was filled with lolicon and other degenerate fetish porn). This ended with the site being the hollow shell that is today, as nobody in their right mind wants to associated themselves with it anymore unless they don't even speak English(hence the influx of Hispachan posters). That did not deter one pedophile from posting, however...
That would be our friend, LCP. As far as I can tell, this is the only genuine spammer that isn't just a personality being used by a bored troll or a moderator out of control with fingers in every pie like our friend Eden. He is a genuine pedophile(proud of it, too) that made it a mission to spam the site every single day, and remind them that they are "moral fags" that pussied out of having a "deterrent board" to filter out "newfags", since we all know nothing says "I'm a a hardcore internet tough guy" like boasting about how much illegal porn you masturbate to. As much as you may want to hate him and his mindless tirades about how much better the site would be if it allowed even more CSAM than it already does, remember that Acidman(Pedophile) specifically went out of his way to attract users like him and only backpedalled months later(after he bled thru most of his userbase) and only because the feds were likely knocking at his doors. This is very much a "don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose" kind of deal, sacrificing a chance to create a new proper 8chan in return for having a retard like him stick around on you like a fly to shit. What a deal!
I know many sites have labeled moe as a potential risk due to hosting illegal content around this time and Acid even had to take steps to ensure that the site could not be archived with images anymore due to all the Child Porn that made it onto the Archive.Today site(If you archive any new links now, you will only get a joke "You need 8chan Extreme to view this image" thumbnail instead of actual images, making webpage screenshots the only viable way of archiving the site as of now)
There is not much to say about LCP himself, he is just as shallow and idiotic as any other face-off pedophile, the site has many examples of people like him. He has become known due to two things: His insistence to ignore basic grammar rules and only typing in lowercase(that also lead to most posts without proper capitalization deleted on sight) and him being open about being a pedophile(oftentimes spamming AI generated pictures of naked children, no doubt based off the real thing). What matters is that if you mention anything related to the /hebe/ incident or even lolicon not being kosher to 99% of the population, you will get called "LCP" and banned on sight. Despite Acid attracting users like him to his site, he now also claims that anyone who calls him out on being a pedophile and trying to create a safespace for pedophiles(and failing) is a "Pedokike", alluding to the posters themselves being LCP or an imaginary cabal of pedophiles that are after him(yes, this is an actual delusion/deflection of his, Cole's mental state is very much reflective of the state of the site itself). In other words, LCP is a fall guy for anyone who brings out the /hebe/ incident, unfortunately all it does is make people ask more questions. Sorry Cole, this is going to stick with you forever now!
Fun Fact: During the /hebe/ drama, Acid posted interracial pornography of a teenager from Neon Genesis Evangelion(who is around 13 years old in the show, he is known for attaching pictures of this teenager to every single post he makes because he is an attention whore. If his dox is correct, Cole is now 50+ years old btw) being raped by a tanned gentleman around this time, giving his trolls yet another reason to mock him and many calling the site "8blacked.gov" from that point onwards. He doubled down and posted more interracial fetish anime pictures when making AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THE /HEBE/ BOARD, to the point that leaked irc logs had his closest staff calling him out on it.


Soyjak Spammers: Not much to say, Sharty sometimes harasses the site. Not so much anymore, since it's dead, but notably, there is/was a bunker site on 8chan itself(since the site allows for independent board creation, leading to the site having dozens of dead or rotting boards nobody uses) called /soy/. It was around for over a year before someone found it, leading to a minor flamewar where angry /v/ users spammed lolicon and jakkers simply did their thing, mostly inside the Gamergate thread where it would actually be seen. Funniest thing that happened that day was someone trying to educate the newcomers on all the deepest Acidman/Cole Lamberson lore, which led to Acid not only deleting that post but shutting down the site(If there is sufficient level of spam, no new Captchas will be admitted until the lockdown is lifted, which means only the users who already made at least one post and haven't been banned can effectively post. This is a new addition and a quick fix for the appalling state of moderation on the site, it should be noted that leftypol bunkers have a similar measure in place and 4chan's /pol/ infamously shit up that site so much it had to be shut down for at least 24 hours more than once) but also making a public announcement that the site was being "raided by a cabal of pedokikes" that are after him. You thought I was joking earlier, huh? Acid also claims that soyjak posters are all pedophiles and very smugly posts that information at least once every Gamergate thread, with outdated/wrong information to boot(what else would you expect from a pedophile sperg that unironically thinks that Gamergate was "Internet's 9/11"?)
One notable Soyjak spammer appeared in the summer of 2021, when /hebe/ debacle was either underway or right before it happened. The lockdown was not implemented yet, so the site had to content with one or several people spamming soyjaks for hours on end(I believe the highest record for one of those spamming sessions was around 7 hours uninterrupted). This led to many funny shenanigans, such as admins and posters arguing with one another if the spammer(s) were a bot or not and leaving incredibly more asshurt ban messages for the spammers, and the users using MS Paint drawings to communicate to prevent the soyjak posts from copy+pasting theirs in greentext(which failed, seemingly debunking the bot theory.
This kind of spam is unheard of now, so it was likely one bored user with nothing better to do, especially since it happened in Summer. Funny how the site is so dead now even Soyjak spammers don't see you as a worthy target anymore

Lastly, I guess there is me, but I barely do anything to them other than record their retarded shenanigans(not hard if you keep the tab on their threads open all day, you will likely get a good spergout or find Mark or Acid saying something retarded eventually). I often get confused for all of the above boogeymen, despite my jabs rarely being anything more than calling Mark or Acid dumb pedophiles or laughing at their latest retarded thing they said or did that day(you would be surprised how often that happens). In fact, many of my screenshots/collages were already posted, and I got plenty more if anyone is interested(I would have to remember the context of some of them, though).


It's good to see a thread like this get finally made, but it would be a lot more active if there were more active 8chan lurkers like me posting here. Or maybe I am just the most obsessed a-log left remaining, who knows.
There is more info on their shenanigans in this old, now bumplocked thread on /cow/(Another boogeyman of 8channers, mostly due to Mark himself still being angry about them mocking him, as well as phishing him out of his asshole photos which are now infamous. The site itself is now a vegetable and only an idiot would actually still care about them, let alone claim they're being harassed by them)

If something big or funny happens there again, I will make sure to bump the thread, if nobody else will. I will try to format this post and attach images as best I can(read the filenames), but I haven't used a forum in close to a dog's age. If the post looks like a disaster, feel free to bully me.

So, the massive TL;DR if you haven't read the rest of the thread thus far is that 8chan.moe is a den full of pedophiles and failed 4channers who sniff their own farts all day, and are more interested in talking about the ethics of drawn child porn than actual video games most of the time. 4channers barely visit their site anymore, oftentimes mocking them and despite Acid's delusional claims that the site doing "better than ever!" everyone sees the writing on the wall: It became just another dead and forgotten pedo infested altchan within months after /hebe/ board was made and only remains somewhat relevant because of it's name(which was only forced on Acid by Mark, since he was asshurt that 8kun did not allow him to host drawn child porn anymore and wanted to make his own 8chan with hookers and blackjack. This is why lolicon is such a hot issue on the site to this day)

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New Gay Drama. Some Global mod on ZZZchan finally snapped under the shitposting and is starting to ban anyone he deems to be an invader. It first started with this thread (unfortunately I wasn't able to archive all the replies before they where deleted)
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The thread was linked in the 8moe meta thread and someone who was Cleary from the sharty started shitposting (now deleted) saying that zzzchan will die and to return to 8moe. The same global was seemingly unable to see a clear false flag and accused him of being a 8moe user.
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This name drop caused Acid to have a spergout while pretending that he isn't mad.
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Archives of both threads
zzzchan https://archive.ph/wAQsr
8moe https://archive.ph/aXUO8
 
Now, 8/v/ IS Gamergate general, barely any other threads have any activity and the board is notorious for being offtopic due to there being zero activity on other non-spanish speaking or fetish boards(such as /blacked/ or /delicious/, one being exactly what you think it is and the other being dedicated to drawn child porn), making /v/ the go-to watercooler board to post about whatever, video games or not.
Despite claiming to be a free speech space, 8/v/ is far more draconian than twitter or any reddit sub I've ever seen. Also the mods are illiterate and have a habit of putting the ban duration in the reason field instead, causing all bans to be permanent. It's too bad this website is ruined by mentally ill management because I can't find any other imageboard that allows custom board creation.
 
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New Gay Drama. Some Global mod on ZZZchan finally snapped under the shitposting and is starting to ban anyone he deems to be an invader. It first started with this thread (unfortunately I wasn't able to archive all the replies before they where deleted) View attachment 5368274
The thread was linked in the 8moe meta thread and someone who was Cleary from the sharty started shitposting (now deleted) saying that zzzchan will die and to return to 8moe. The same global was seemingly unable to see a clear false flag and accused him of being a 8moe user.
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This name drop caused Acid to have a spergout while pretending that he isn't mad. View attachment 5368279View attachment 5368278
Archives of both threads
zzzchan https://archive.ph/wAQsr
8moe https://archive.ph/aXUO8
I had my suspicions about zzzchan's /b/ for a while, at first because there was a heavy influx of lolicon spam that would come up whenever "/cow/" posters were detected, and now more recently when sperging about 8chan started. Then you have this mod, who I am not entirely uncertain isn't our friend Eden or maybe the lolicon spammer himself.
As for the spammer, here is a SFW version of one of his posts, he usually posts lolicon porn(including AI generated ones, not versed enough in the matter to know if it was traced from real children or not)
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The same posting pattern and focus on "invaders" is present, with the same "invaders" in mind as well(/cow/, sharty, 8chan, probably 4chan as well but who the fuck would want to go to zzz willingly?). Crossposters or no, he usually derails the threads all the same, so I am thinking he is an extremely low functioning pedophile at best, mentally ill or a genuine false flagger at worst(and still a pedophile). He does exactly what you would think, spamming porn of underage children and making (extremely asshurt) replies like "fuck off /cow/kike" over and over again....much like our friend, "invadersmustdie"
We might just see a case of loons running the asylum again, either way it's a shame that there is yet one less decent board to post on as of now. It should be noted that spergy pedophiles also ruined 8chan's /b/ as well, but that was mostly the fault of Acidman(Pedophile) who literally invited them over.
This is giving me flashbacks to original 8chan /b/ that was complete and utter shit. Similarly, it was filled with drama posters and selective moderation, eventually people got together and made /b2/. Unfortunately, it was towards the tail end of 8chan's initial run, so it wasn't long lived, still I was hoping zzzchan's /b/ would resemble number two more so than the original. If the moderation on the site is this bad, might as well cross zzzchan's /v/ off the list as well, but that board was one leg in the grave for years already.

As for soyjak spam, I do recall there being at least one decent raid, but with how spergy the userbase of the site(and it's moderation) is, as well as how dead the board always was, I haven't seen any major attacks, minus one or two shitposters poking people with a stick like what you're referring to, can't really tell if they're from the sharty or just saying so to goad one side into attacking the other. Personally, I think anyone genuinely triggered by bearded men in glasses deserves to be tormented by them, so I don't care, and 8chan certainly burned all it's goodwill long ago so if people spam them a little bit, I can't see how that's a problem either. They all made their bed already, all that's left is to observe
 
As for the spammer, here is a SFW version of one of his posts, he usually posts lolicon porn(including AI generated ones, not versed enough in the matter to know if it was traced from real children or not)
Is that the faggot that keeps posting loli panty-shots in every fucking GG thread?

Two of the GG threads were dedicated to big titty adult women and both were invaded and ruined by loli-spam.

Fucking loli faggots are just as bad as, if not worse than, furries that invade the pokemon threads.
 
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Is that the faggot that keeps posting loli panty-shots in every fucking GG thread?

Two of the GG threads were dedicated to big titty adult women and both were invaded and ruined by loli-spam.

Fucking loli faggots are just as bad as, if not worse than, furries that invade the pokemon threads.
Considering he gets very mad when Mark Mann(pedophile) or Acidman(also a pedophile) gets made fun of, on zzzchan of all places, I would say it's likely.
GG General was always full of loliposting fruits, however, even before fall of 8chan and short lived era of /hebe/ on moe. Mark is a lolicon himself. so it shouldn't be a surprise that he centers his entire personality around either that or being the worst BO in 8chan's history(even worse than the cock sucking leftypol one)
Want to play a fun drinking game? Go on 8chan.moe's /v/ board and go to their catalog. Look at their banner, drink anything it's some coomer bait shit. I didn't count all of them, but I swear around 50% of the time I get some barely-vidya related cropped porn. Hell, even a good portion of their threads are horny posting/baiting nowdays, here is their catalog and an example of one of their banners I captured at some point
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It's good to see a thread like this get finally made, but it would be a lot more active if there were more active 8chan lurkers like me posting here.
I go there from time to time because once in a while someone posts some vidya related news on /v/ that no one on KF has posted yet so I spread the news from there to here. It -CAN- be a good source of information when it's not filled with bullshit drama, but lately the post quality has been stagnant. The GG threads are just fucking awful now (not that they were great to begin with), and general threadsa that SHOULD be active and updated (e.g. Fighting game general) only get sprinkles of posts and then just die out for another week to a month. Sleepychan's /v/ generals are more active at this point, which says a lot because it's always the same 5-6 threads that get bumped and the rest just sleep at the bottom.
 
Acidman(Pedophile) had yet another meltdown earlier today.
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A massive TL;DR is that he got genuine criticism over his behavior, and instead of accepting it he banned the user for "planning a psyops against the site", probably with the imaginary "cabal of pedokikes" that he thinks are after him.
Considering his addiction to pornography, in particular cuckold porn and lolicon, I wouldn't put it past this narc to abuse his position and knowingly fuck over and ban his users to fulfill another power fantasy. This is the exact kind of struggle sessions you see from trannies who find people who didn't quite lick their "clits" enough, two sides of the same coin.
Of note is the segment where he talks about how little drop off of users the site had, relative to other altchans. That's a blatant lie, of course, as he failed to mention how he did everything in his power to keep a "Legal Child Porn" board by the name of /hebe/ afloat on his site, even when vast majority of his users were all but ready to kick them out, torches and pitchforks in hand. He claimed that "Pedophiles have a right to free speech, too", and that led to most users(all but those who have Stockholm Syndrome, have the same disgusting fetishes as him, or are simply abusive, power hungry pieces of shit in the case of the moderators) leaving overnight. The site never recovered, and Acidman never offered any solid proof there was any rebound, he only claims so. The user asking him here to provide solid proof was apparently asking too much, as he was banned for his troubles and called an invader for doing so.

I think I find his use of his avatar to be the most hilarious part of his posts. He posts a character from the Anime "Neon Genesis Evangelion" called Asuka Langley, whom is about 12-13 in the show. The Anime itself should set off warning sirens, but as I said earlier, Acidman has proven that he has deep seated fantasy of seeing this character get raped by tanned individuals, very openly might I add. That was a rather infamous piece of site history, captured by yours truly

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There is more evidence of Acid chasing black penis, both 2D and 3D on his twitter, but I will spare you.
You might think that's pathetic, but how about the face behind the man?
I should point out that his dox was never confirmed, however I believe it is accurate, as whenever it is posted Acid goes full DFE mode(and the pictures of this gentlemen are blocked from being posted on the site without modification). I would say that's proof enough.
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Note that Cole Lamberson here is in his 50s, and assuming that's our boy, still larping around as a 13 year old girl on the internet(or masturbating to her).
I want you to remember this face whenever Acidman tries acting tough or smug, as he likes to do. The "80 year old chinese man in panties" meme comes to mind, and it's not that far off.
This is definitely not the last time Acid will have another power trip or another spergout, so if I see another one, I will post it here.
 
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I've seem some suggestions to help bring in more users but I doubt any of these would work
>just run ads
Imageboards traditionally only really spread through word of mouth, running ads has never really worked out. For example, there is a new imageboard called "plebchan" that ran ads on 4chan saying you would be "Free from jannies" and guess what? Barely anybody came.
>Split the site into a SFW and NSFW
That won't do anything, someone suggested that this could revive boards like Christian but no actual Christian would ever post on 8moe.
>get rid of mark and/or acid
Most imageboard users don't know nor care who they are. Also the devil that you know. They could easily be replaced with someone much worse.
>change the site name
this could somewhat work, as 8chan is usually just known as the "Shooter website", but even sites like ZZZchan with a completely different name are dying too.
>post the link to 8moe to niche communities on 4chan
Most of them already know about, or post on 8chan. Truth be told they are already comfy where they are.
>wait till 4chan dies and take in their posters
this is just a pure fantasy that will never happen
 
I remember going to 8ch back in 2014-2015 during the heyday, went for the anticensorship and stayed around for the cool boards like /cyber/ and /tech/.

Now its all gone, you go to .moe and not only are those boards gone but the top of the list is
>zoo
>loli hentai (with another name...)
>interracial cuckold porn
>same as ^ but with cartoons

How the mighty have fallen...
 
>post the link to 8moe to niche communities on 4chan
Most of them already know about, or post on 8chan. Truth be told they are already comfy where they are.
The thing is they don't WANT anyone from 4chan. The only other niche site they try to cross-promote is Kotaku In Action 2, a forum that for some reason is structured like reddit (so it's immediately shit).
 
I've seem some suggestions to help bring in more users but I doubt any of these would work
>just run ads
Imageboards traditionally only really spread through word of mouth, running ads has never really worked out. For example, there is a new imageboard called "plebchan" that ran ads on 4chan saying you would be "Free from jannies" and guess what? Barely anybody came.
>Split the site into a SFW and NSFW
That won't do anything, someone suggested that this could revive boards like Christian but no actual Christian would ever post on 8moe.
>get rid of mark and/or acid
Most imageboard users don't know nor care who they are. Also the devil that you know. They could easily be replaced with someone much worse.
>change the site name
this could somewhat work, as 8chan is usually just known as the "Shooter website", but even sites like ZZZchan with a completely different name are dying too.
>post the link to 8moe to niche communities on 4chan
Most of them already know about, or post on 8chan. Truth be told they are already comfy where they are.
>wait till 4chan dies and take in their posters
this is just a pure fantasy that will never happen
8chan(moe) name is run thru the mud so much that I think it's more of a liability than anything. 4channers already know about the /hebe/ scandal and general spergery from the two pedophiles(Mark and Acid), so nobody even wants to await their 3 day bans anymore(like it was a well known tradition on old 8chan)
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Simply put, there really is no future for that site. If it was anybody else running things, then maybe something new could be forged. Now? It's apparent both Mark and Acid just want their own little circlejerk where they can bully anybody they want. Anybody who stays with them at this point knows exactly what they signed up for and deserve no sympathy. Even if new users never heard of Mark or Acid, once they do or experience their first public spergout and uncalled for banning by either of them, they will think twice about going back right there and then. It would be one thing if there were actually interesting discussions to be had, but it's mostly sperging about politics or dumping lolicon porn, and 4chan offers boards for both of these. Even 4chan's /v/ is usually more ontopic than 8chan is, and zzzchan's /v/ is dead so no alternative there.

I am saddened the rest of the webring fell apart, it looked promising at first but everyone went their own way and tried to set up their own little warring tribe. None of it went anywhere, now there is dozens of boards spread across several dead altchans with absolutely no activity anywhere. Much like in Starfield, there is only a few big boards in the vast solar system that is the webring, and all of them are disappointing garbage, rest is just dozens of barren, dead boards that might not have seen activity in years.
Turns out everybody wanted to become the next hot wheels/moot and thought they knew better. They didn't, they should have stuck together build something great together, much like "Julay" initially looked right after the collapse(but that's a story for another day).
As of now, most ended up going to 4chan, despite their ranting against the site. Many of the people decrying it now will also go back eventually, there is simply nowhere else to go once they get tired of Mark, and if they won't go back to 4chan directly they will at least leave the webring behind. Look at me, I made an account here and haven't been regretting it for a moment, very refreshing to have actual conversations with people again without walking on eggshells to not trigger a tard pedo mod and get my post history wiped.
 
The thing is they don't WANT anyone from 4chan. The only other niche site they try to cross-promote is Kotaku In Action 2, a forum that for some reason is structured like reddit (so it's immediately shit).
I know they still have their gay little rivalry, I only included it because someone in the Meta thread recently suggested it.
 
Imageboard culture is permanently dead. The gist of it is, a website without accounts cannot exist in 2023 because of child pornography. CSAM is now an attack vector and it is being used and abused by either some sort of government agency, or the oldest IB users are now just pornography addicts who cannot stop posting CSAM no matter what.

This is the new big bottleneck in the world that is pushing everything towards Real ID and centralization. Most sites rely on Cloudflare to automatically filter CSAM (literally every image and video you upload to a Cloudflare protected website is scanned). Some other sites use things like Microsoft PhotoDNA. There's a couple competitors.

The two-prongs of keeping a site online are to centralize and/or KYC your users. Imageboards are antipathical to both concepts, which is why all imageboards die or just become a place for pedophiles to jerk off.
 
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