Marvel Cinematic Universe

[The Token Ethnic]

Can only imagine that the people who still actually care about this shit movie will not be pleased.

Marvel intentionally changes things in their trailers to mislead the audience. One example was when they showed Bruce Banner as the Hulk in the Infinity War trailer, but in the actual film, he was in the Hulk suit and scared of Thanos. It would be interesting to see a Blu-ray release of the movie with both the original version and the reshot footage, especially with commentary about how much money they spent and the reasons for the reshoots. However, Disney would never admit or allow it.

 

[The Doom Slayer]

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Hollywood actors need to just shut the fuck up. These people are barely sentient and have the IQ of a potato. Every time they open their mouths there's at least a 50% chance it'll be a franchise-killing disaster.

 

[Xerxes IX]

i personally was for the idea of making Magneto a Rawanda genocide victim, plus having Xavier both be africans and combining that with the Wakanda backstory of not lifting a finger to help others would have been really interesting. Plus the original story about Magneto being a survivor came out about 30-40 years after the end of the conflict so it does match up with the african genocide too and unlike the holohoax, society literally sitting on their hands and letting it happen would motivate someone like Magneto more.

its clear the intentions was for Black Panther and Wakanda to be a major centerpiece of the MCU and that had to be abandoned.


but all that discussion was a decade ago when they announced that disney was buying the xmen. Now everyone knows the ZOG will be in power for at least the next 20 years and its all moot at this point.

I've thought that would be a good alternate backstory for Magneto we had international officials saying they can't intervene or even refusing to call it a genocide so they had no pretext to intervene. You could have one of those Wakandan agents in Rwanda who realizes Wakanda won't do a thing to aid the Tutsis even though they could easily do it, a bit like General Dallaire. Not doing anything about a genocide right next door (no seriously, Wakanda is located above Rwanda in the MCU) is a better example of why Wakanda's isolation needed to change than "it's Wakanda's moral duty to aid inner city black communities in America" anyway.

edit: And Magneto's supremacist beliefs could be influenced by seeing a powerful isolationist nation that takes care of only their own

 

[The Doom Slayer]

 

[MTN Dew Rat]

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Spy from TF2: "Naturally" :/

 

[Doctor of Autism]

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It's so funny how the lead actor bragged about how not woke this show is. Not going to speak of the quality itself but everything about the new Spider-Man cartoon could be considered woke

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Another annoying aspect of modern Spider-Man media taking away Peter's teeth is this bullshit of making him and all his classmates students at some special genius school where virtually everyone gets along. Dude doesn't even have bullies anymore.

Also, apparently this version (and maybe the MCU version too since this show was originally going to be a canon prequel) has Uncle Ben's death be before he even gets bit by the spider. Just... Why!? Is it just change for the sake of change? No wonder it took until No Way Home for MCU Spidey to get the 'Great Responsibility' moment.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Also, apparently this version (and maybe the MCU version too since this show was originally going to be a canon prequel) has Uncle Ben's death be before he even gets bit by the spider. Just... Why!? Is it just change for the sake of change? No wonder it took until No Way Home for MCU Spidey to get the 'Great Responsibility' moment.

I can sort of defend this as Uncle Ben's death is something so well known that everyone knows it already. Its like showing Batman's parents dying for the 20th time.

However, the MCU one that was more a case of how Sony didn't want Uncle Ben to be shown for some reason since I guess they wanted to do a movie about him (he was also in Madame Web for no reason).

As for this animated show, don't know if the same case applies or if it was a conscious decision with no interference.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I can sort of defend this as Uncle Ben's death is something so well known that everyone knows it already. Its like showing Batman's parents dying for the 20th time.

However, the MCU one that was more a case of how Sony didn't want Uncle Ben to be shown for some reason since I guess they wanted to do a movie about him (he was also in Madame Web for no reason).

As for this animated show, don't know if the same case applies or if it was a conscious decision with no interference.

You don't have to show it, but it's pretty damn important to the foundation of Spider-Man's story to have happened. You can avoid showing the Wayne's mugging without going out of your way to change it to a different cause of death that doesn't really gel with what leads Bruce to Batman.

 

[Kier Starmer]

I think sadly with Spidey you HAVE to show or go around Uncle Ben's death because it is such a core part of his identity. I even did not mind it tbh when Aunt May did it instead because it took a creative risk and bar the nostalgia bait that film still slaps. I honestly rank Now Way Home with Winter Soldier. It is one of the Marvel films I watch annually and still love it. I did like that Garfield's Spidey also got his story to go full circle too. I do put Infinity War on that list too because that movie still slaps, it's just a shame because Endgame was just not on par. It was not bad just it failed to carry the momentum.

So question; when Cap 4 bombs do you think they are going to do emergency reshoots with Fantastic 4 weaving RDJ Doom into it more? The level of cost to those reshoots would be insane because they have to give RDJ a huge amount.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

You don't have to show it, but it's pretty damn important to the foundation of Spider-Man's story to have happened. You can avoid showing the Wayne's mugging without going out of your way to change it to a different cause of death that doesn't really gel with what leads Bruce to Batman.

Yeah it has to at least be mentioned, like even showing it wihtin a 5 minute flashback can make it work.

The MCU kinda had a strange spot where they tried to make Tony Stark Uncle Ben but it didn't really have the same impact, they kinda swerved with Aunt May which did work out (though long term that is yet unknown as Spider-man 4 is constantly shuffling)

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Yeah it has to at least be mentioned, like even showing it wihtin a 5 minute flashback can make it work.

The MCU kinda had a strange spot where they tried to make Tony Stark Uncle Ben but it didn't really have the same impact, they kinda swerved with Aunt May which did work out (though long term that is yet unknown as Spider-man 4 is constantly shuffling)

I don't think it even worked with Aunt May. They did absolutely nothing with her in the other films other than remind us that she's not an old granny anymore and then rushed into trying to make her matter in No Way Home so she could pretend that the 'Great Responsibility' line can mean anything with this version of Peter. The message doesn't really work with a Peter who is such a selfless, honest goody-two-shoes that I can't imagine him having the legit temptation to let an injustice happen for selfish reasons.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

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Its kinda funny theyre making all the villains minorities tbh.

 

[starborn427614]

I think sadly with Spidey you HAVE to show or go around Uncle Ben's death because it is such a core part of his identity. I even did not mind it tbh when Aunt May did it instead because it took a creative risk and bar the nostalgia bait that film still slaps. I honestly rank Now Way Home with Winter Soldier. It is one of the Marvel films I watch annually and still love it. I did like that Garfield's Spidey also got his story to go full circle too. I do put Infinity War on that list too because that movie still slaps, it's just a shame because Endgame was just not on par. It was not bad just it failed to carry the momentum.

I think next to Guardians, Spider-Man might be my favourite MCU trilogy. Even the middle film, as average as it was, still is mostly good.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

iirc, when Tony meets Peter for the first time in Civil War Peter starts to talk about Uncle Ben's death but gets cut off. He also has a few hand-me-down things that have the name 'Ben' on them.

I don't think it's ever been confirmed but it's long been rumored that Sony had all kind of retarded caveats for Disney's use of Spider-Man.

 

[Metamorpho]

I'm not watching this shit, how much does he shill it?

 

[NoonmanR]

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This show hasn't come out yet, and they already have Season 2 half made (archive)

Speaking to The Movie Podcast, Marvel Studios head of streaming, television, and animation Brad Winderbaum revealed Season 2 already has completed scripts and half its animated storyboards finished despite Season 1 not premiering until tomorrow, January 29. Season 3 is greenlit too.

How the fuck? This is gonna be another one of, whatever that other marvel cartoon is where they had to cut an episode because it features tranny bullshit.

I'm not watching this shit, how much does he shill it?

I watched the first 7 minutes and he mostly just gushes about comic book shit, doesn't really talk about the woke bait. Seems fairly positive overall on it, but called the spiderman in it boring and said osborne is a weak villain.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

This show hasn't come out yet, and they already have Season 2 half made (archive)

Disney announced the show and kicked off its early stages of development back in 2021. Apparently, they wrapped up the series and got it ready for release, only to put it on hold during the Hollywood strike. It seems like season two was in production either before or after the strike.

 

[Commander X]

Do these people even WANT their movies to be successful?!

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It's another example of fantagonism as an advertising gimmick. "Mackie, say this so people will zip off to the metroplexes to see what has to be the 40th Marvel movie by now because they'll believe it is a powerful statement to dunk on the chuds." It is not going to work.

It'll be funny to hear how much the official budget actually is, if that information ever does get leaked out. Studios and their running-dogs in the entertainment press, have been providing cover in the last few weeks, claiming that wherever the purported figure of $350 million came from that's just rumors and the real budget is the trifle of $150m, which, especially adjusted for inflation, is actually one of the lower-cost films Marvel has made!

You also can be guaranteed that the latter will be reported breathlessly across every media platform as Real News, even though it's no more verified than the claim of the $350 million budget and lots of "people" popping on Reddit threads and the comments sections of sites like Deadline to declare that as totally disinterested, non-invested persons, that they agree that the budget was more around $150 million, and that the extensive reshoots probably didn't cost that much.

 

[NoonmanR]

Red Hulk rumored to only be in Brave New World for only 4 minutes
Can only imagine that the people who still actually care about this shit movie will not be pleased.


Disney does this shit all the fucking time. Remember when Multiverse of Madness was originally reported to cost only $200 million, and now they admitted that it cost more than fucking Endgame, making it one of the most expensive movies of all time? Or The Force Awakens, that had a $200 million budget originally, and now the tally's up to over $440 million. This $180 million number is complete and utter horseshit, and anyone who believes it for a second is a retard.

That's because production likely was 200 million, before the massive cost of marketing and activating the shills is involved, but that doesn't get counted usually. You always have to at least double whatever they tell you is the production cost because while it's likely true, it doesn't tell the full story, so in that sense, 340 million is a bit on the low side.