Mass Effect General Thread

[Zorgulon]

Just bought this recently and it looks awesome.

 

[marvlouslie]

Honestly, I can kind of understand the extreme tonal shift of Liara's personality in between Mass Effect 1 and 2. ESPECIALLY if you romanced her. During Mass Effect 1's entire story line, just due to the fact who she was related to, I'm pretty sure the council suspected her involvement in whatever bullshit Benezia was getting on with Saren. Shepard helped proved she had no involvement in whatever the fuck her mother was doing. In fact, he actually managed to bring back evidence that Benezia herself was being mind controlled/manipulated in some way (which in turn helped her sort out some weird family issues). Finding love with Shepard was just a bonus on top of that. Then at the start of the second game, she sees the love of her life spaced due to an unknown enemy attack.

I dunno fellas. To have a woman that into you who would literally move heaven and earth to find your body just to give you some kind of peace (I think that's how it started before she found out he was captured by Cerberus and fucked with)... That says an awful lot about someone's loyalty, but I can get how it can be especially jarring if you're not keeping a lot of things in mind.

 

[Leave_Fargut]

Honestly, I can kind of understand the extreme tonal shift of Liara's personality in between Mass Effect 1 and 2. ESPECIALLY if you romanced her. During Mass Effect 1's entire story line, just due to the fact who she was related to, I'm pretty sure the council suspected her involvement in whatever bullshit Benezia was getting on with Saren. Shepard helped proved she had no involvement in whatever the fuck her mother was doing. In fact, he actually managed to bring back evidence that Benezia herself was being mind controlled/manipulated in some way (which in turn helped her sort out some weird family issues). Finding love with Shepard was just a bonus on top of that. Then at the start of the second game, she sees the love of her life spaced due to an unknown enemy attack.

I dunno fellas. To have a woman that into you who would literally move heaven and earth to find your body just to give you some kind of peace (I think that's how it started before she found out he was captured by Cerberus and fucked with)... That says an awful lot about someone's loyalty, but I can get how it can be especially jarring if you're not keeping a lot of things in mind.

I'll be honest, I enjoyed Liara more as a pulpy, shallow stereotype in ME1 than I did when they tried giving her an arc thereafter. I have nothing against the concept of giving her development beyond the doe-eyed infatuated scholar, but it never landed with me. I put it down to Ali Hillis' performance getting more and more robotic with each game, to the point of self-caricature (seriously -- compare her ME1 performance to the Andromeda cameo). Also, before LotSB released the interactions with her in ME2 did a lot to piss me (and others) off; BW really bungled that reunion in my view

 

[Fig Kommandant]

Just bought this recently and it looks awesome.

That set of missions was amazing, but the reveal of the origin was dogs hit. Leviathan and Arrival DLC had the same detective atmosphere as ME1 missions, it was neat they focused less on shooting.

 

[Zorgulon]

Honestly, I can kind of understand the extreme tonal shift of Liara's personality in between Mass Effect 1 and 2. ESPECIALLY if you romanced her. During Mass Effect 1's entire story line, just due to the fact who she was related to, I'm pretty sure the council suspected her involvement in whatever bullshit Benezia was getting on with Saren. Shepard helped proved she had no involvement in whatever the fuck her mother was doing. In fact, he actually managed to bring back evidence that Benezia herself was being mind controlled/manipulated in some way (which in turn helped her sort out some weird family issues). Finding love with Shepard was just a bonus on top of that. Then at the start of the second game, she sees the love of her life spaced due to an unknown enemy attack.

I dunno fellas. To have a woman that into you who would literally move heaven and earth to find your body just to give you some kind of peace (I think that's how it started before she found out he was captured by Cerberus and fucked with)... That says an awful lot about someone's loyalty, but I can get how it can be especially jarring if you're not keeping a lot of things in mind.

I really hope she gets to reunite with Shepard in the next Mass Effect.

 

[marvlouslie]

I really hope she gets to reunite with Shepard in the next Mass Effect.

I dunno. After Veilguard. I have little faith that the next Mass Effect will be any good period.

 

[Burt Ryan]

I dunno. After Veilguard. I have little faith that the next Mass Effect will be any good period.

Considering that they made that teaser with Liara and the destroyed portal just to generate hype, and they did not even begin pre-production at the time, it reeks of the "The Elder Scrolls VI" teaser that Bethesda made a few years before, and so far nothing has come out.

 

[Zorgulon]

Considering that they made that teaser with Liara and the destroyed portal just to generate hype, and they did not even begin pre-production at the time, it reeks of the "The Elder Scrolls VI" teaser that Bethesda made a few years before, and so far nothing has come out.

Horrible marketing strategy what were they thinking?

 

[Übertroon]

As such the ending of 3 would have been a massive moral conundrum:
If you destroy the Reapers all the races of the universe get to live a bit longer but at the cost of being doomed in the long run regardless and dragging existence down with them.
If you continue the cycle everyone you every knew would die with their civilizations and nobody would remember any of you, but you will give the oppurtunity for countless more lives to be born and find happiness in the future.

So it's just this image in a nutshell

Are you a right wing chud valuing your family and friends, or are you a libtard that values space dust?

 

[Burt Ryan]

Time to replay the series at a slower pace with more mods on.

Like this one, that keeps the N7 armor consistent across the three games.

 

[augment]

As such the ending of 3 would have been a massive moral conundrum:
If you destroy the Reapers all the races of the universe get to live a bit longer but at the cost of being doomed in the long run regardless and dragging existence down with them.
If you continue the cycle everyone you every knew would die with their civilizations and nobody would remember any of you, but you will give the oppurtunity for countless more lives to be born and find happiness in the future.

The ending for 3 is as clear as daylight to me. Everything the little shit tells you are lies, just go ahead and destroy all Reapers.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

The ending for 3 is as clear as daylight to me. Everything the little shit tells you are lies, just go ahead and destroy all Reapers.

Controlling the reapers? Gay.
Synthesis? Much more gay.
Shooting the kid? I wish a mod to kick drop him into the core and destroying it, much like Austin Powers parody Pure crap.

 

[Back me up!]

The ending for 3 is as clear as daylight to me. Everything the little shit tells you are lies, just go ahead and destroy all Reapers.

One thing I did like when they "updated" the endings was that at any time if you unload on the ghost kid it choose the destroy ending.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

One thing I did like when they "updated" the endings was that at any time if you unload on the ghost kid it choose the destroy ending.

I'm sure that ending kills Shepard off-screen and the Reapers win.

 

[augment]

Yeah no kidding. People got all worked up when that kid showed up at the Crucible. At every tangent, at every point, he tells you there will be caveats.
"You can't just shut the Reapers down" Says who? You? The leader of the Reapers?
"If you destroy us, all of technology will go, including human-made cybernetics" Says who? You again?
"Organics are destined to be overtaken by AI and artificial sentience, it will be inevitable" Says who? The Head of the galactic murdering titans about to get finally beaten?
"There's an alternative, we could harmonize with each other and coexist, a fusion" Says who? The current losing party in this whole ordeal that took tens of thousands of years to see through?
I have never in my whole life picked the synthesis ending purely out of spite.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

So after remembering I got LE trilogy for free through Amazon prime gaming or something I decided to replay them for the first time in ages, not since ME3 came out. Modded, of course.

After 200+ hours I have to say, still a hell of a series. The mods to give ME3 a more positive destroy ending along with citadel dlc epilogue really do wrap it up better.

As someone who plays full paragon goodboy, it's fun to see youtube videos showing just how wild things can go if you choose the decisions for that.

Still probably won't play Andromeda. Idk, I hear it's somewhat fixed up but I just can't find enough desire to want to play it.



Anyways, yeah. Excellent blast from the past, even if my finger is sore from holding the W key so much....especially from ME1 Mako sessions. Might do a renegade run...idk.
Oh, and of course Garrus best bro, Tali best waifu.

 

[Absolutego]

So after remembering I got LE trilogy for free through Amazon prime gaming or something I decided to replay them for the first time in ages, not since ME3 came out. Modded, of course.

After 200+ hours I have to say, still a hell of a series. The mods to give ME3 a more positive destroy ending along with citadel dlc epilogue really do wrap it up better.

As someone who plays full paragon goodboy, it's fun to see youtube videos showing just how wild things can go if you choose the decisions for that.

Still probably won't play Andromeda. Idk, I hear it's somewhat fixed up but I just can't find enough desire to want to play it.



Anyways, yeah. Excellent blast from the past, even if my finger is sore from holding the W key so much....especially from ME1 Mako sessions. Might do a renegade run...idk.
Oh, and of course Garrus best bro, Tali best waifu.

Yeah, Tali's the best female love interest even though the space gypsies in general are a meme.
Don't get bothered by not bothering with Andromeda, even with the animation bugs fixed there's still awful, just awful, dialogue, probably the worst in a Bioware game to that point, a paper-thin story with boring, forgettable characters on both sides of the conflict, insultingly shallow worldbuilding (you go to an entirely new galaxy and meet a whole 2 new alien species and (spoiler) they're actually the same species), and the maps are just one big void with a bunch of fetch quests to make sure you explore 80% of it.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Yeah, Tali's the best female love interest even though the space gypsies in general are a meme.

Oh, definitely. Quarians as a whole are....lol.

As for Andromeda, yeah that's kind of the feel I get for it whenever I read anything about it. Just seems like the cheap knockoff that is dead anyways so even if you did care about something....it's not going to matter.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Gay Kaidan romance is impressive because the writer somehow, deliberately or not, nailed all the fujoshi tropes 100%.

• "I'm gay for you because you are sooo special to me, Shepard!" trope if you believe Kaidan is straight and always will be... unless it's with Male Shepard. Also applies if Male Shepard banged female companions in the past, but goes gay for Kaidan because of true love, The "straight, but gay for you" trope is very popular in fujoshi stories
• "For two and a half games, their love is true but unexpressed, because reasons!" - another popular trope in fujoshi romance.
• "Our unspoken love is finally out because we may not have a tomorrow - LET'S BANG!" - another fujoshi staple.

The only deviation from the fujoshi tropes is Kaidan implicitly being made the top. However, from what I see, people on Tumblr that ship these two LOVE the fact that Kaidan is a power top when he's such a beta outside the bedroom, and even draw explicit fan art about this.

Kaidan not being gay in the first two games, unless you mod them, may be a hiccup on paper for a believable 3-game romance arc, but somehow, Mass Effect 3 managed to deliver a 300% fujoshi favorite fest with this romance, and I'm impressed.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Yeah......I forgot about Kaidan being gay in ME3. Sit down at a table with him to have a chat and suddenly have to go "woooooah buddy, not like this".

(Yeah, I let him live in ME1 for a change)