Culture Matt Furie out of options; wants to SUE anyone that uses Pepe - Watch out, we've got a badass over here!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...up-tells-alt-right-blogs-to-cease-and-desist/

Man who made “Pepe” wants his frog back, and he’ll use copyright to get it
Mike Cernovich won’t pay, threatens “to embarrass the f***” out of Pepe creator.
JOE MULLIN - 9/19/2017, 1:55 PM

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Enlarge / A man holds a sign of Pepe the frog, an alt-right icon, during a rally in Berkeley, California in April 2017.
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Matt Furie created the cartoon character Pepe the Frog in 2005 as a kind of peaceful stoner animal for his comic "Boys Club." By 2008, the frog had become a meme at 4chan. In the 2016 election cycle, though, Pepe became something completely different—an ever-meme of the alt-right. The Anti-Defamation League characterizes Pepe as a hate symbol and has catalogued some of the most viciously racist and anti-semitic examples.

Now Furie wants his comic frog back. After years of letting it slide, Furie has lawyered up and sent demand letters to several alt-right personalities, including white supremacist Richard Spencer, Mike Cernovich, and the subreddit "The_Donald."

Last month, Furie took legal action against a man in Texas who created an Islamophobic version of Pepe for a children's book. That matter reached a settlement. Now, Furie's lawyers have spoken to Vice about his determination to reclaim ownership of the image and the demand letters they have sent out.


"[Furie] was very serious when he said that we wanted to make clear that Pepe was not the property of the alt-right and couldn't be used by the alt-right," Furie lawyer Louis Tompros told Vice. "We've asked them to take [the images] down. That hasn't happened yet, but they're very much on notice. We plan to take action if they don't."

The letters demand that the alt-right commentators remove images and videos including Pepe, including one recently created by Cernovich in which he added Pepe into a video of Hillary Clinton reading a passage from her new book.

"Mr. Furie is entitled to damages for your infringement," the letter states. "After we have received confirmation that you have ceased infringement, we will contact you to discuss what additional information we need from you to calculate the appropriate amount of damages."

Cernovich has taken down the images, but he has also published a blistering response by his lawyer, Marc Randazza, which boasts that Furie "won't see a dime from Mr. Cernovich." The letter says that Furie's letter "wasn't a serious legal threat" and that the image of Pepe qualifies as fair use, because it's "political commentary and satire."

"Should you choose to file suit against Mr. Cernovich, we will be delighted to embarrass the fuck out of you—and set up a malpractice claim by your client against you," writes Randazza.

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Yeah this is gonna end badly for Furie, if he seriously tries to sue EVERYONE using a Pepe meme its only a question of will he run out of money before someone counter-sues the fuck out of him. He will never get his precious frog back, people will keep the meme going out of spite.
 
Yeah this is gonna end badly for Furie, if he seriously tries to sue EVERYONE using a Pepe meme its only a question of will he run out of money before someone counter-sues the fuck out of him. He will never get his precious frog back, people will keep the meme going out of spite.

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I was sympathetic when he sued the guy who made the children's book. And in general, I feel for him that his dumb comic was turned into some sort of lightning rod for racist neckbeards. (Regardless of whose fault that was. That is to say: it was Hillary's.)

I didn't expect him to go whole hog on it though.

And yet, here we are. Time to bust out the popcorn and watch him get his shit wrecked in a very public and embarrassing manner.
Also Furie seems to be unaware that fair use parody is legal in the USA.
It should be noted that fair use isn't a blank check to do whatever you want.

Like I'm sure most pepe usage is fair use.

But if someone starts trying to sell pepe tshirts, for example, I would imagine Furie would have much better case there.
 
True. But like you said, an MSPaint caricature posted on 4chan is probably fair use.

Possibly. It really depends on the courts, since the makers of the derivative have a lot to prove. That's the bad side of fair use, it's vague on purpose. I agree that a lot of the pepe memes are probably fair use, but I guess we'll see who he manages to track down and take to court. It'll be interesting, since I don't think we've had many cases regarding fair use and memes on the internet to look on for reference.
 
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