Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @MWV / ViciousVickers / Poor Yorick - Ex-coin merchant, bloodline gunted by Ethan Ralph. Fat cuckold who lost everything by trying to launch warfare against Ethan Ralph. Alleged rapist, proven cuckold, got mental damage from his wife's mean words. Cog paypig.

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You give her far too much credit, she is no better than her husband. They both tried to cash in on the situation.
I’m not giving her any credit. Saying Ariana didn’t believe her daughter’s accusations of CSA against her husband isn’t exactly a compliment. I’m saying that if this is a legit divorce, getting confirmation of some sick shit is often the only thing that can motivate an unemployed old land whale with a litter of kids to divorce her husband.
 
null called this years ago. he was right then, of course, but what a way to be vindicated.

i distinctly remember on a stream where vickers claimed that null had "major daddy issues" or some cope like that when null gave him the eminently sensible advice to not involve himself or his family online in the way he was. that line alone convinced me that he was an irredeemable, selfish boomer assclown.

i think ppp said something similar as well. experience has taughtme that if null and ppp agree on something, it's probably true.
 
I’m not giving her any credit. Saying Ariana didn’t believe her daughter’s accusations of CSA against her husband isn’t exactly a compliment. I’m saying that if this is a legit divorce, getting confirmation of some sick shit is often the only thing that can motivate an unemployed old land whale with a litter of kids to divorce her husband.
It isn't a legit divorce. Cog let the cat out of the bag on The Vickers. They are divorcing so she gets the house, cars and savings in order to hide it from his bankruptcy and evade having to pay taxes. Same with the son taking over the business. He can't liquidate what he doesn't own anymore in order to satisfy his debts. Usually you will be denied a bankruptcy if you have enough assets to pay said debt. Bankruptcy is meant for people that have more debts than assets.

Looks like he was denied bankruptcy a couple of times, so his idea was fake a divorce and probably give his wife 100% of total shared assets and have his son purchase that business for pennies. So now after the sale of the business and the divorce is settled. He won't have enough assets to pay the debts off and now is eligible for filing bankruptcy.
Then later he will buy the business back and remarry. The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back.
 
The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back
Luckily for us Vickers is a genius who never had a plan of his blow up in his face
 
It isn't a legit divorce. Cog let the cat out of the bag on The Vickers. They are divorcing so she gets the house, cars and savings in order to hide it from his bankruptcy and evade having to pay taxes. Same with the son taking over the business. He can't liquidate what he doesn't own anymore in order to satisfy his debts. Usually you will be denied a bankruptcy if you have enough assets to pay said debt. Bankruptcy is meant for people that have more debts than assets.

Looks like he was denied bankruptcy a couple of times, so his idea was fake a divorce and probably give his wife 100% of total shared assets and have his son purchase that business for pennies. So now after the sale of the business and the divorce is settled. He won't have enough assets to pay the debts off and now is eligible for filing bankruptcy.
Then later he will buy the business back and remarry. The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back.
Fatt read about paper divorces itt and ordered Cog to spread this newly found cope to attempt to save some kind of face because everyone started clowning on him. He would have been content to disappear while his family self-destructed if everyone continued to be apathetic towards them. The Ralphamale in him has been roused and he must correct the record even if it's a lie that involves claiming he's planning to commit fraud. "It's all a work!" he cries alone in his trailer over a dinner of boiled hotdogs.

If they're trying to defraud everyone, and that's a big if imo, they'll just fuck it up like they fuck everything else up. The nigger couldn't even file for bankruptcy correctly.
 
It isn't a legit divorce. Cog let the cat out of the bag on The Vickers. They are divorcing so she gets the house, cars and savings in order to hide it from his bankruptcy and evade having to pay taxes. Same with the son taking over the business. He can't liquidate what he doesn't own anymore in order to satisfy his debts. Usually you will be denied a bankruptcy if you have enough assets to pay said debt. Bankruptcy is meant for people that have more debts than assets.

Looks like he was denied bankruptcy a couple of times, so his idea was fake a divorce and probably give his wife 100% of total shared assets and have his son purchase that business for pennies. So now after the sale of the business and the divorce is settled. He won't have enough assets to pay the debts off and now is eligible for filing bankruptcy.
Then later he will buy the business back and remarry. The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back.
This sounds like standard cope from Vickers. He’s probably thankful the thread put it out as a scenario to latch on too.

Why does Arianna need her own lawyer and custody counseling recommends, if it’s just a paper divorce? It’s easy as fuck to do a paper divorce in CA, but they are involving lawyers and custody issues because it’s all just a paper thing?

However with how well his genius schemes on bankruptcy, taxes and lawsuit have played out over the past decade the divorce will go just as well. I’m sure trying to use his son as a pawn in his brilliant plan to fool the IRS and bankruptcy court wont backfire at all. I don’t buy the paper divorce cope but I definitely could see Matt using his adult child to try and hide assets. Matt is just the type of dad to get his son in deep shit to try and save his own ass.

The way he has pulled his son into his nonsense is so gross. I really do think the kids are socially isolated and stunted thanks to their retard parents. Run Ethan! Don’t let your dad ruin your credit too!!! Unfortunately I’m sure all his kids SS# have come in handy for his debt maxing lifestyle. The elementary school age kids probably have a loan on a minivan, few credit cards and delinquent utility bills.
 
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Vickers registered Vickers Coins and Collectibles as a California corporation back in January, located at the old coin shop which is now listed as closed.

A similarly named LLC was one of a bunch of LLCs that he had created, this one is a corporation though.

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Why does Arianna need her own lawyer and custody counseling recommends, if it’s just a paper divorce? It’s easy as fuck to do a paper divorce in CA, but they are involving lawyers and custody issues because it’s all just a paper thing?
Congrats, you just put more thought into the situation than Cog.

I’ve seen you in Cog’s thread. You know better than to take his “intel” as fact.
Cog actually is in contact with Vickers though.

I think the people here are right and Vickers saw people clowning on him and had to correct the record via Cog.
 
The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back.
No Geek, Vickers is an experienced court room operator. He knows exactly how to finesse the legal system, and has shown this time and time again.

Oh wait, no, after mocking Ralph by calling him pro se Jones and claiming - likely entirely truthfully - that Ralph was a drunk and xannied mess in court, he still managed to ensure his daughter lost.

If this is his plan, he's literally got minus IQ points. First, because it's blindly obvious even to casual online observer's but also because he admitted to a third party, and that party was COG. :story:.

What I really want to know is what did he spend the money on. Did this nigga really get so addicted to trying - and failing - to sue Ralph, a man who lives hand to mouth, that he has impoverished his entire family.

Genuinely, Mr. Vickers should get hit by a car.
 
It isn't a legit divorce. Cog let the cat out of the bag on The Vickers. They are divorcing so she gets the house, cars and savings in order to hide it from his bankruptcy and evade having to pay taxes. Same with the son taking over the business. He can't liquidate what he doesn't own anymore in order to satisfy his debts. Usually you will be denied a bankruptcy if you have enough assets to pay said debt. Bankruptcy is meant for people that have more debts than assets.

Looks like he was denied bankruptcy a couple of times, so his idea was fake a divorce and probably give his wife 100% of total shared assets and have his son purchase that business for pennies. So now after the sale of the business and the divorce is settled. He won't have enough assets to pay the debts off and now is eligible for filing bankruptcy.
Then later he will buy the business back and remarry. The thing is that he doesn't understand that he will be investigated and if they find that he is using legal loopholes to retain his assets. He will probably get criminally charged by the federal government and the other debtors for fraud and tax evasion and face some serious prison time AND still have to pay it back.
Asset shuffling is a common tactic in insolvencies to try and keep specific assets from getting lost to the creditors. But as you pointed out, the bankruptcy courts are well aware of this and will try to claw those assets back if they can prove that is what is happening.
 
What I really want to know is what did he spend the money on. Did this nigga really get so addicted to trying - and failing - to sue Ralph, a man who lives hand to mouth, that he has impoverished his entire family.
As far as can be gleaned from his filings Vickers was insolvent since before Xander was a twinkle in Ralph's piggy little eye. Ralph and Faith started talking online in 2019 I think (and hope, given that's when she turned 18 ) and Vickers had signed his name on a filing claiming to be $350,000 in debt in 2018.
 
Asset shuffling is a common tactic in insolvencies to try and keep specific assets from getting lost to the creditors. But as you pointed out, the bankruptcy courts are well aware of this and will try to claw those assets back if they can prove that is what is happening.
Thor Capital has had a lien on the coin shop assets and Vickers personally since last April, I suspect their lawyers might be a little familiar with this kind of thing. Bankruptcy fraud is a federal crime.
 
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The nigger couldn't even file for bankruptcy correctly.
This nigger unironically believed that if you had a restraining order against someone; talking shit about that someone, on social media, will not go against the spirit of the restraining order, as long as you are in a locked twitter account.

On retrospect, it's unbelievable that I thought that this guy had the baseline intelligence to maintain a good family life.
 
The whole fucking point of a paper divorce is to do it before the goddamn bankruptcy sheesh.

If you do it during, and it eventually comes out (and yes, there are debt collectors asshole enough to keep an eye on it) then it can all go down to a fraud case which means this fucker could actually end up in front of the supremes (it's unsettled law):

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-869-statute-limitations-18-usc-3284 (a)

QUERY: In a concealment of assets case where the debtor receives neither a discharge nor a denial of the discharge when, if ever, does the statute of limitations begin to run?

These issues have not been directly addressed by the courts in any recent cases. A literal reading of 18 U.S.C. § 3284 would mean that the statute would never run in the examples cited above since a discharge was neither granted nor denied. The District Courts in United States v. Newman, 63 F. Supp. 269 (S.D.N.Y. 1945); United States v. Ganaposki, 72 F. Supp. 982 (M.D. Pa. 1947); and United States v. Nazzaro, 65 F. Supp. 456, (S.D.N.Y. 1946) all held that under the statute prior to 18 U.S. C. § 3284 (which provided that the statute of limitation did not begin to run until the debtor received a discharge), the failure of the defendant to secure a discharge meant there was no statute of limitation. They held that this was the clear language Congress used, and, whether it was wise or not, it was well within Congress' power.

Would be hilarious
 
As far as can be gleaned from his filings Vickers was insolvent since before Xander was a twinkle in Ralph's piggy little eye. Ralph and Faith started talking online in 2019 I think (and hope, given that's when she turned 18 ) and Vickers had signed his name on a filing claiming to be $350,000 in debt in 2018.
This actually explains lot.

IIRC Vickers used to say shit like how he enquired with Ralph's old landlord to buy the house, basically he leaned into this LARP about being a super successful business owner.

Yet he let his daughter get owned by Ralph in court on multiple occasions, particularly where he was filing pro se.

You'd think if he was Mr. Moneybags he would have prioritised legal support and advice in something he was so obsessed with.

Instead, it appears his rich guy behaviour was actually peak retardation, with a plan to defraud his creditors when the line of credit decided enough was enough.
 
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Looks like he was denied bankruptcy a couple of times, so his idea was fake a divorce and probably give his wife 100% of total shared assets and have his son purchase that business for pennies. So now after the sale of the business and the divorce is settled. He won't have enough assets to pay the debts off and now is eligible for filing bankruptcy.
Yeah that's called fraudulent conveyance and usually the transaction is just reversed and the assets liquidated regardless, possibly throwing in the adversarial party's attorney fees.

Maybe DSP could pull that off. This retard can't.
 
Yeah that's called fraudulent conveyance and usually the transaction is just reversed and the assets liquidated regardless, possibly throwing in the adversarial party's attorney fees.

Maybe DSP could pull that off. This retard can't.
DSP didn't have any assets to hide and that was early COVID times. Not only is Vickers fucked but he might be leaving his own son on the hook if any of that inventory gets sold under his name and then later gets ordered clawed back. The whole family is in on the scheme now so they're all fair game.
 
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