Orbiter Matthew Vickers / @MWV / ViciousVickers / Poor Yorick - Ex-coin merchant, bloodline gunted by Ethan Ralph. Fat cuckold who lost everything by trying to launch warfare against Ethan Ralph. Alleged rapist, proven cuckold, got mental damage from his wife's mean words. Cog paypig.

[bile demon]

This is the picture of a man who is not coping.
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THIS MAN IS A LEGAL GENIUS!​

Wayne Lambright has really let himself go.

 

[Hambubger]

PayRalphie.lol coming in nicely toobz

 

[Captain Manning]

How long before Ralph’s former A-logs raise the necessary funds for Gunt to hire a lawyer? Stranger things have happened in the sektur.

It would be hilarious if that happened and it made more money than Rekieta's.



Could Ralph pull in more than $12,219? I think Rekieta might still more fans than Ralph, but Vickers seems more despised than Montagraph.

Shit if somebody started a fund I'd probably throw in.

Honestly, I won't, but that's because I got burned twice on shit like this. First Vic, and then that stupid bullshit where an actual lawyer was never hired and Spectre pretended he was a lawyer instead. In both cases, my money bought retarded or counterfeit legal representation. I feel like God is trying to tell me something. It would probably take an appeal from Null for me to want to pitch money to one of these again. Like if he turns out to be one of the John Does, or Vickers sues the Farms.

In Ralph's case, I'd be too concerned he'd spend the money on Xannies.

If Ralph crowdfunds this, I'd recommend keeping your donations small, and temper your expectations. I agree Ralph looks like the better one in this situation, but he's still Ralph.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Honestly, I won't, but that's because I got burned twice on shit like this. First Vic, and then that stupid bullshit where an actual lawyer was never hired and Spectre pretended he was a lawyer instead. In both cases, my money bought retarded or counterfeit legal representation. I feel like God is trying to tell me something. It would probably take an appeal from Null for me to want to pitch money to one of these again. Like if he turns out to be one of the John Does, or Vickers sues the Farms.

In Ralph's case, I'd be too concerned he'd spend the money on Xannies.

If Ralph crowdfunds this, I'd recommend keeping your donations small, and temper your expectations. I agree Ralph looks like the better one in this situation, but he's still Ralph.

Despite what Ralph says, I rather doubt that he actually is going to retain a lawyer imminently, and I expect that this is going to turn in to a battle of the pro se legal titans: the resistible force versus the moveable object.

 

[Captain Manning]

Despite what Ralph says, I rather doubt that he actually is going to retain a lawyer imminently, and I expect that this is going to turn in to a battle of the pro se legal titans: the resistible force versus the moveable object.

Possibly. OTOH, Ralph seems better than most in the sense that he has retained legal counsel before, although that was for his criminal shit.

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

Possibly. OTOH, Ralph seems better than most in the sense that he has retained legal counsel before, although that was for his criminal shit.

Ralph had a lawyer for some of this Vickers shit early on (family court stuff I think), but she dropped him. Probably because he kept bringing her up on show and she asked him several times to not do that, and I think payment issues as well.

 

[break these cuffs]

It would be hilarious if that happened and it made more money than Rekieta's.

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Could Ralph pull in more than $12,219? I think Rekieta might still more fans than Ralph, but Vickers seems more despised than Montagraph.


Honestly, I won't, but that's because I got burned twice on shit like this. First Vic, and then that stupid bullshit where an actual lawyer was never hired and Spectre pretended he was a lawyer instead. In both cases, my money bought retarded or counterfeit legal representation. I feel like God is trying to tell me something. It would probably take an appeal from Null for me to want to pitch money to one of these again. Like if he turns out to be one of the John Does, or Vickers sues the Farms.

In Ralph's case, I'd be too concerned he'd spend the money on Xannies.

If Ralph crowdfunds this, I'd recommend keeping your donations small, and temper your expectations. I agree Ralph looks like the better one in this situation, but he's still Ralph.

I think Ralph's best bet would to use a third party people could trust, such as Null, to collect and disburse funds directly to his lawyer or have his lawyer setup one of those legal funds only the lawyer can use. He's a drug addict who's burned more bridges and destroyed more goodwill in a couple years than most people could manage in a lifetime. I'm not sure there is anyone who'd do it. There's hype around him attacking AF, but even that first night it's not like he was raking in huge amounts of donos. He's gotta mend bridges however he can. That's a big ask for him. Exposure of a wider audience to how unlikable Vickers is and also an explaination of how he's abusing the legal process could be what he needs to get enough people to care.

Giving comeuppance to some frivolous faggot like Vickers would be the only thing that could galvanize me to send Ralph a shekel. Ralph would also have to get through some of the proceedings on his own dime to show he isn't a complete retard who will tank the case despite his lawyer's best efforts and that he has actually hired someone competent. It's a lot easier to fuck around with someone else's money and Ralph has been enough of a basketcase to fuck up his legal proceeding when it's his dime.

Even then he'd have to hit me on a day when I was feeling soft. I'd much prefer Vickers to go after the Farms so I could have some confidence this wouldn't turn into an inept clusterfuck devoid of funny. Part of me hopes Vickers gets some legal Ws because I think his ego would swell and he'd could his balls up enough to go after us. He doesn't come here. He doesn't care what we say. We're team tard, yadda yadda. His fatass still responds to what's said here. But, I know the last thing Null needs is another retard draining his coffers. It's a lot easier for me to fuck around with someone else's money too.

 

[Captain Manning]

I think Ralph's best bet would to use a third party people could trust, such as Null, to collect and disburse funds directly to his lawyer or have his lawyer setup one of those legal funds only the lawyer can use. He's a drug addict who's burned more bridges and destroyed more goodwill in a couple years than most people could manage in a lifetime. I'm not sure there is anyone who'd do it. There's hype around him attacking AF, but even that first night it's not like he was raking in huge amounts of donos. He's gotta mend bridges however he can. That's a big ask for him. Exposure of a wider audience to how unlikable Vickers is and also an explaination of how he's abusing the legal process could be what he needs to get enough people to care.

You mean an IOLTA account. One of those was set up for Vic's case.

Obviously, because one was set up for Vic, having one doesn't guarantee good results, but it would help ensure he Ralph doesn't blow the money on hookers and booze.

Whatever happens, Nick should not set it up or help pick Ralph's lawyer. His credibility when championing legal causes is shot now, and I think it would only hurt Ralph. Null could champion this, and I think it would get traction, but I dunno if he would care to. I will note though he does seem to be on better terms with Ralph now, while despising Vickers.

 

[not william stenchever]

Whatever happens, Nick should not set it up or help pick Ralph's lawyer. His credibility when championing legal causes is shot now, and I think it would only hurt Ralph. Null could champion this, and I think it would get traction, but I dunno if he would care to. I will note though he does seem to be on better terms with Ralph now, while despising Vickers.

Null said on MATI last night that if the fat fucker is trying to go after KF users he's going to organize some kind of warchest because fuck Matthew Vickers.

 

[AnOminous]

Null said on MATI last night that if the fat fucker is trying to go after KF users he's going to organize some kind of warchest because fuck Matthew Vickers.

I'd definitely donate to that. Even if I'm not one of these imaginary Does (and I believe I have been fairly reasonable about Vickers), I will certainly go out of my way to become one if this repulsive toothless faggot piece of shit who rents out his grandson to people like "GeniusAnus" (a probable pedophile) is targeting Kiwis.

 

[Pitbull Victim]

Haven't seen this posted yet, but apparently Vickers' gaytur, the anus man, explained the 50 does after Daddy Jim Metokur had some questions about it:





Apparently Vickers thinks the law works like booking a table at a restaurant for extra people just in case, at least according to the ass.

 

[AnOminous]

Apparently Vickers thinks the law works like booking a table at a restaurant for extra people just in case, at least according to the ass.

Even a restaurant will tell you to go fuck yourself if you try to reserve the entire restaurant for 50 people who might or might not show up.

 

[UCantCCPMe]

Well, if that's the case.....

Go get em Vickers!!!

 

[BasedGypo]

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Is "getting mind raped" a specific cause of action? Ethan Ralph plus 1 to 50 people is pretty deep into Japanese DVD-only gameshow territory. I don't know about you guys, but my spiritual avatar tends to keep to himself and I don't ask questions.

 

[Captain Manning]

I'd definitely donate to that. Even if I'm not one of these imaginary Does (and I believe I have been fairly reasonable about Vickers), I will certainly go out of my way to become one if this repulsive toothless faggot piece of shit who rents out his grandson to people like "GeniusAnus" (a probable pedophile) is targeting Kiwis.

Yeah, like I said, if Null involved himself and asked for help, I'd probably break down and donate. My luck on these things thus far has been pretty attrocious, but Null's things usually work better than most.

Good for Null.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

Even a restaurant will tell you to go fuck yourself if you try to reserve the entire restaurant for 50 people who might or might not show up.

Is this a lolsuit first? I have never heard of someone trying to sue John Does without any knowledge about whether they exist or what harm they may have caused.

Haven't seen this posted yet, but apparently Vickers' gaytur, the anus man, explained the 50 does after Daddy Jim Metokur had some questions about it:

It still doesn't make any sense.

Given his past behavior with KoP - telling him "Welcome to discovery" because he sent a follow request - I'm not convinced that the idea isn't that the John Does are being kept in reserve as a "break glass in case of butthurt" option:

You said something that made Ralph 2 seethe? Congrats, you're now John Doe #XX.

Even if that's not the case, Vickers is suing Ralph for things that Ralph said, either on Ralph's Twitter account or Ralph's stream. I do not understand how anyone else could be involved in that. EsoShaggy is named in those messages being sent to Jim. Okay, that's one guy. Let's say that's John Doe 1.

What about the other 49 John Does in the complaint?

Still sounds like "suing the Internet" to me.

 

[break these cuffs]

Haven't seen this posted yet, but apparently Vickers' gaytur, the anus man, explained the 50 does after Daddy Jim Metokur had some questions about it:

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Apparently Vickers thinks the law works like booking a table at a restaurant for extra people just in case, at least according to the ass.

I'm going to need someone to spoonfeed me this because I know barely more than Vickers about the law. My interpretation of what GeniusAnus, co-streams with toddler Xander Vickers, is that anyone not related to the cause of action put forth in the suit cannot be added without the Does being in there. He would have to file separate lawsuits for seperate causes of action. No shit. Can you really just file a lawsuit with an asterisk that allows you to balloon it far beyond its original scope?

Is he essentially trying to say that only people who communicated with Ralph caused him to get so ass-blasted that he is now crippled? Add Esofaggy and anyone else to the suit who defamed you. They didn't just defame you if they coordinated with Ralph. It's seems to me like he's trying to have his cake and eat it too.

I'm sure it's not being explained right, especially since it's a nuanced legal matter as noted, because it's a strategy dreamt up by a multi-time litigious loser and it's being explained by a man who flies across the country to spend time with a stranger's toddler. Our legal system is gayer than all of Vickers capos combined, but this doesn't seem right to me.

 

[Elmo]

Given his past behavior with KoP - telling him "Welcome to discovery" because he sent a follow request - I'm not convinced that the idea isn't that the John Does are being kept in reserve as a "break glass in case of butthurt" option:

You said something that made Ralph 2 seethe? Congrats, you're now John Doe #XX.

Even if that's not the case, Vickers is suing Ralph for things that Ralph said, either on Ralph's Twitter account or Ralph's stream. I do not understand how anyone else could be involved in that. EsoShaggy is named in those messages being sent to Jim. Okay, that's one guy. Let's say that's John Doe 1.

What about the other 49 John Does in the complaint?

Still sounds like "suing the Internet" to me.

This leads me to believe that it could just be anything Ralph has reposted/quote tweeted. Anyone who was QT'd, you're one step closer to being on the shitlist.

 

[Fornicario]

I'm going to need someone to spoonfeed me this because I know barely more than Vickers about the law. My interpretation of what GeniusAnus, co-streams with toddler Xander Vickers, is that anyone not related to the cause of action put forth in the suit cannot be added without the Does being in there. He would have to file separate lawsuits for seperate causes of action. No shit. Can you really just file a lawsuit with an asterisk that allows you to balloon it far beyond its original scope?

Is he essentially trying to say that only people who communicated with Ralph caused him to get so ass-blasted that he is now crippled? Add Esofaggy and anyone else to the suit who defamed you. They didn't just defame you if they coordinated with Ralph. It's seems to me like he's trying to have his cake and eat it too.

I'm sure it's not being explained right, especially since it's a nuanced legal matter as noted, because it's a strategy dreamt up by a multi-time litigious loser and it's being explained by a man who flies across the country to spend time with a stranger's toddler. Our legal system is gayer than all of Vickers capos combined, but this doesn't seem right to me.

Vickers is somehow convinced this is a novel application of class action law. It's about the only logical conclusion I have. Any attempt to reconcile otherwise causes my brain to melt.

This leads me to believe that it could just be anything Ralph has reposted/quote tweeted. Anyone who was QT'd, you're one step closer to being on the shitlist.

Shitlist? This is a PAIDLIST. Ralph and anyone lucky enough to be roped into this has a slam-dunk countersuit. Vickers wouldn't be able to discharge it, and he has tangible assets to attach. This is a fucking W if you can stand three months' worth of scrutiny from the sektur.

 

[Captain Manning]

I'm going to need someone to spoonfeed me this because I know barely more than Vickers about the law. My interpretation of what GeniusAnus, co-streams with toddler Xander Vickers, is that anyone not related to the cause of action put forth in the suit cannot be added without the Does being in there. He would have to file separate lawsuits for seperate causes of action. No shit. Can you really just file a lawsuit with an asterisk that allows you to balloon it far beyond its original scope?

My understanding is that Joe Doe lawsuits are for when you have a cause of action against somebody, but they are anonymous. For example, you call me a pedo here on KF. I dunno who you are exactly, but it's clear you, whoever you are, called me a pedo. I can hypothetically sue you as a John Doe and then, armed with a subpoena, try to figure out who you are from Null, your ISP, etc.

Here Vickers is thinking that there's up to 50 people online causing him IIED, although not only can he not say who they are, he can't even point to what they did. Completely unlike the above example where I know you called me a pedo and everybody here saw it.

@AnOminous could probably explain it better, but I think you are correct that a court wouldn't allow him to keep expanding the scope of this suit, based on anything he gets from Ralph, like he seems to be hoping. I'm pretty sure you have state claims, upon which relief can be granted, in your complaint or amended complaint. Even for Joe Does.

My lay prediction:

Judge: "Okay so what did these 50 people do exactly?"
Vickers: "I dunno yet, your honor. I'm hoping to find out stuff from Ralph."
Judge "Get the fuck outta here with this shit."

I'm not convinced that the idea isn't that the John Does are being kept in reserve as a "break glass in case of butthurt" option

I think you are correct.

Still sounds like "suing the Internet" to me.

He basically is.

EDIT: Typo.