MCU Television and Animation Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc

It's weird. I watched WandaVision and FatWS, and I can still totally mooch off of the folks' Disney+ account to watch Loki any time I want to...
And yet, I haven't given enough of a shit to do it... I just double checked, wow it's already on episode 4?
I've seen some of the random social justard takes (without much context, I'll admit.) they made a Lady Loki a character in this show, and it's totally Lady Loki, but you better not actually call her "Lady Loki" or you're a sexist or some bullshit like that. No, I'm good right now.

I'll tell you what, there's most likely somewhere between 2 and 5 more episodes left (WandaVision had 9 episodes, FatWS had 6) If I see enough people saying that it ended up being mostly good, I'll binge it (pretending like they released every episode all at once like they should have).

I may also end up binging it if people say it's particularly bad. At the moment, it just seems kind of meh to me.
 
Judging from the latest episode. I think it adds weight to my comment a few posts up. The decided episode 3 was about revealing he's bisexual. So that took the focus and the story ground to a halt. Now the next episode is just cramming a lot of crap in to move it forward.

Awful pacing.

It's just lost it for me. The writers don't seem to want to write Loki as a competent character. He's pathetic in the show. The show is constantly demeaning him. Female Loki is shown to be much more capable than him at every stage. He's an incompetent fool when taken into custody but the TVA. Getting beaten by an obese black lady.

Lady Loki goes in there, kicking ass. Even child lady Loki was able to outsmart and escape.

Even in fight scenes, it seems like they need to establish lady Loki is way better than normal Loki. It just seems so deliberate.

Why write a time loop scene of Loki being hit in the balls and called pathetic constantly? Despite multiple loops, he's always a snivelling weasel. He never presents as strong, he's constantly cowardly. Never stands up for himself.

It's clear they could never have him stand up for himself in this version. Especially to women. This is him a few days before in Marvel.


Look at how that compares to him in the being kicked to the balls time loop? This isn't the same Loki was liked from the films. He's pathetic. The show has no respect for him.

Yes that clip has him pathetic, but I am pointing to him standing up for himself. The version in the show would just be cowardly to the Hulk.
 
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Loki's been pretty good so far. Seems to have a much more confident hand behind it than WV and FatWS did. WandaVision started out interesting but fell apart in the second half as it conformed to the usual MCU formula while Falcon and the Winter Soldier was just a mess that obviously suffered from re-writes. There's still a huge possibility of Loki completely fumbling at the goal-line and botching the finale, though.
 
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Judging from the latest episode. I think it adds weight to my comment a few posts up. The decided episode 3 was about revealing he's bisexual. So that took the focus and the story ground to a halt. Now the next episode is just cramming a lot of crap in to move it forward.

Awful pacing.

It's just lost it for me. The writers don't seem to want to write Loki as a competent character. He's pathetic in the show. The show is constantly demeaning him. Female Loki is shown to be much more capable than him at every stage. He's an incompetent fool when taken into custody but the TVA. Getting beaten by an obese black lady.

Lady Loki goes in there, kicking ass. Even child lady Loki was able to outsmart and escape.

Even in fight scenes, it seems like they need to establish lady Loki is way better than normal Loki. It just seems so deliberate.

Why write a time loop scene of Loki being hit in the balls and called pathetic constantly? Despite multiple loops, he's always a snivelling weasel. He never presents as strong, he's constantly cowardly. Never stands up for himself.

It's clear they could never have him stand up for himself in this version. Especially to women. This is him a few days before in Marvel.


Look at how that compares to him in the being kicked to the balls time loop? This isn't the same Loki was liked from the films. He's pathetic. The show has no respect for him.

Yes that clip has him pathetic, but I am pointing to him standing up for himself. The version in the show would just be cowardly to the Hulk.
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That bravado is an act, they go over this in Episode 1.
 
Im a bit torn. I like the dialogue for Loki. I like how they beat him down and build him back up again. It is a slower paced show, but I thought it had some of the most legitimately intriguing moments of interaction in the entire MCU. The Mobius Loki chemistry is that good.

The whole "im gay" scene didnt really derail anything for me, because it was written well and short enough that it wasn't terribly distracting. Actual Norse myth loki was a weird dude.


They do seem to be building to something interesting and unique, but the end of the last episode pissed me off.


Loki apparently dies at the end and I guess this is all gonna be about lady loki now. I mean now that I think about it they probably will time travel him back, but I wont hold my breath.

It has potential to be the best show when all is said and done. They do want to tell an interesting story that stands on its own, but there is also plenty of time for them to fuck it up.
 
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Im a bit torn. I like the dialogue for Loki. I like how they beat him down and build him back up again. It is a slower paced show, but I thought it had some of the most legitimately intriguing moments of interaction in the entire MCU. The Mobius Loki chemistry is that good.

The whole "im gay" scene didnt really derail anything for me, because it was written well and short enough that it wasn't terribly distracting. Actual Norse myth loki was a weird dude.


They do seem to be building to something interesting and unique, but the end of the last episode pissed me off.


Loki apparently dies at the end and I guess this is all gonna be about lady loki now. I mean now that I think about it they probably will time travel him back, but I wont hold my breath.

It has potential to be the best show when all is said and done. They do want to tell an interesting story that stands on its own, but there is also plenty of time for them to fuck it up.
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You must've missed the credits scene for the last episode.
 
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Judging from the latest episode. I think it adds weight to my comment a few posts up. The decided episode 3 was about revealing he's bisexual. So that took the focus and the story ground to a halt. Now the next episode is just cramming a lot of crap in to move it forward.

Awful pacing.

It's just lost it for me. The writers don't seem to want to write Loki as a competent character. He's pathetic in the show. The show is constantly demeaning him. Female Loki is shown to be much more capable than him at every stage. He's an incompetent fool when taken into custody but the TVA. Getting beaten by an obese black lady.

Lady Loki goes in there, kicking ass. Even child lady Loki was able to outsmart and escape.

Even in fight scenes, it seems like they need to establish lady Loki is way better than normal Loki. It just seems so deliberate.

Why write a time loop scene of Loki being hit in the balls and called pathetic constantly? Despite multiple loops, he's always a snivelling weasel. He never presents as strong, he's constantly cowardly. Never stands up for himself.

It's clear they could never have him stand up for himself in this version. Especially to women. This is him a few days before in Marvel.


Look at how that compares to him in the being kicked to the balls time loop? This isn't the same Loki was liked from the films. He's pathetic. The show has no respect for him.

Yes that clip has him pathetic, but I am pointing to him standing up for himself. The version in the show would just be cowardly to the Hulk.
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He's been a bitch in every post-Avengers movie as well. The "best" he's ever been was backstabbing the bad guys in Dark World by pretending to betray Thor (at the very end) and Ragnarok, again at the end of another feature length sissy run.
 
Feels like a series that could work with multiple seasons. They've spent most of this season trying to build up the character, sorta necessary as the movies speed along with quips so much that they can't really build characters well there. So going forward they'd have an easier time just having him muck about on his own having finally done the origin story setup for Loki (it's like every MCU show that has a sort of clone of the protagonist as the foil).
 
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Feels like a series that could work with multiple seasons. They've spent most of this season trying to build up the character, sorta necessary as the movies speed along with quips so much that they can't really build characters well there. So going forward they'd have an easier time just having him muck about on his own having finally done the origin story setup for Loki (it's like every MCU show that has a sort of clone of the protagonist as the foil).
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I could've sworn I read somewhere that Loki will have a second season. Might be some Youtuber misreading information though.
 
The new episode wasn't bad. Richard E. Grant was perfect as an old Loki. I love that they even gave him the classic costume from the 60's.

Some of the background references were pretty funny too. We got to see (what I believe was) Throg, the Thanos Copter, and a Polybius arcade cabinet.

Not going to lie though, I hope the last episode is good. I felt that Wandavision was great up until the end and I'm worried Loki is going to be the same way.
 
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The new episode wasn't bad. Richard E. Grant was perfect as an old Loki. I love that they even gave him the classic costume from the 60's.

Some of the background references were pretty funny too. We got to see (what I believe was) Throg, the Thanos Copter, and a Polybius arcade cabinet.

Not going to lie though, I hope the last episode is good. I felt that Wandavision was great up until the end and I'm worried Loki is going to be the same way.
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I would've preferred a bit more action since the exposition went on a bit, but it was still good exposition with likable characters. An easy 8/10 for me and yes Rich was the MVP of the episode.
 
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Star Wars and MCU both cast Richard E. Grant in a role but never gave him much to do, wonder what next big series will do it next.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Old Loki survived in some way. He was the strongest and most crafty of them and already alluded to being able to disguise himself as "random debris". The fact his helmet survived is enough to lend some believability to the guy himself surviving.
 
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