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I wonder what the rules are around mocap performances and credits-like would a visual alone require crediting.
MCU Television and Animation Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc
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Yeah I'm starting to think that honestly. I'm sure we'll get Magneto or whatever in Multiverse of Madness anyway.
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Some people were expecting to have Fassbender in the latest episode for what I read. I think we need to just accept that QS wasn't brought from another dimension and it was just Evan Peters the actor playing the role as a nod to his own role but without any more consequence. Sure, I could be wrong, but I don't think they're risking much here.
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Agreed. Didn't Agatha say she created him. I don't think she was lying about that.
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Nah she said it was a crystalline(?) possession, it's someone with super super speed that she's taken control of. It seems that possession's worn off considering he looked like a homeless bum and wasn't all that aggressive when confronting Monica. Gamesradar explained this better than I can.
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Sure, Doctor Strange could show up next episode being himself, but the thing is, none is proof that Evan Peters' character is QS from the X-Men universe. This is like saying that the guy Star Lord thought to be his father is in fact Nick Fury from another universe. Is it possible that there is a multiverse and Agatha brought "Peter" from it to be an avatar for Pietro's soul? Sure. But it's also equally (or more) possible it's just them trolling the audience with a nod to the franchise.
I think a lot has to do with people wanting the x-men to show up in the MCU and I don't even know how they're gonna do that. IICR, they haven't even mentioned mutants to be a thing (I am not a MCU fan nor I have watched them all movies, so I could be wrong here). I mean, the x-men aren't just one or two characters, it's a whole bunch of people besides Pietro (who isn't even an x-men per se).
I think a lot has to do with people wanting the x-men to show up in the MCU and I don't even know how they're gonna do that. IICR, they haven't even mentioned mutants to be a thing (I am not a MCU fan nor I have watched them all movies, so I could be wrong here). I mean, the x-men aren't just one or two characters, it's a whole bunch of people besides Pietro (who isn't even an x-men per se).
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Ok so I wasn't *entirely* right here, it was Agatha all along after all... but I still think that the majority of this prediction I made weeks ago is still correct. (Mainly that Evan Peters being "recast" as Pietro was an easter egg, but not him literally being ripped out of the Fox Xmen universe). He does appear to have super speed, but he hasn't been shown to be nearly as fast as Peters was in the Fox xmen movies, even if they did choose to use a similar effect. I'm guessing that Agatha just used magic to give some random dude, who just so happens to look like Evan Peters, super speed.
That latest episode really pissed me off, and honestly makes me double down on my original statement that Disney should have just dropped all of these episodes at once. It's perfectly fine if literally nothing fucking happens in the penultimate episode of your series because it was all just one big exposition dump, if the next episode is just a click away. It's a lot more obnoxious when you expect your viewers to wait a whole week to see the conclusion after that big helping of nothing.
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I noticed the magic beam Wanda uses to smash the window is heart shaped
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The MCU couldn’t even use the name Scarlet Witch until now as it was held by Fox with the X-Men movie rights.
But no, the MCU hasn’t mentioned mutants as Agents of SHIELD featured inhumans instead.
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Cool I didn't notice that
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The weekly release was fine, the problem is that now we're close to the final episode, it's very obvious that the whole deal with the sitcoms it was just a waste of time or, rather, a way to cash on real nostalgia and references and Easter eggs for the audience. It doesn't add anything to the story and it's as useful as having one hour of Captain America playing videogames after he woke up and telling us how sad he is and how much he misses his past life. "Wanda likes tv" is an absolute asspull that, enjoyable as it is, would have been cut by any competent editor and labelled a filler.
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All the sitcom episodes were still exploring different parts of Wanda's psyche, I think it's a bit unfair to label them as filler when the whole point of Wandavision and all these MCU shows are a character study for the most part.
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Agree, but you could have simplified them a bit. The two first episodes could be a single one alone.
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Good question, mocap actor is still an actor, especially if they provide the voice (like Andy Serkis with Smeagal/Golem in the LOTR movies), so they probably are credited since even interns and assistants get credits.
There's a good chance Doctor Strange will show up in the mid-credits scene in the last episode, since that's how Marvel teases things in the first place (unless he helps with the fight). The episode where Peter shows up as Pietro, the voice describing the scene for blind viewers (lmao) says it's Fox Quicksilver, whether that was to describe his appearance or to say he was pulled from Fox X-Men universe, we won't know until Friday.
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X-Men have been done to death, the movie timeline was needlessly confusing, and frankly the racism allegory rings hollow now that apparently everyone is a snowflake claiming to be oppressed.
Note: I did like the old X-Men cartoon so I don’t say this out of pure hatred.
Note: I did like the old X-Men cartoon so I don’t say this out of pure hatred.
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As someone who loved the X-Men comics and the 90s cartoon growing up, I dread what Disney will do with them. They are going to make it as ultra woke as possible.
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Personally, I don't think the sitcom stuff is just a gimmick, and I think it adds much more of an emotional punch to Wanda's character in the MCU.
The context behind Wanda's "sitcom life with Vision" is kind of like the final scene in Endgame, which had more than enough emotional payoff at face value ... But when you know the history behind the song selection during Steve and Peggy's dance, it just hits harder and more effectively. "It's Been a Long, Long Time" was a big hit right when WWII ended, when many women were seeing their loved ones coming back home after being at war. I totally cried in the theater when I saw Endgame for the first time the very second the song started playing, as Cap was finally a soldier that came back home. It was an amazing song choice. Not saying the MCU is perfect and flawless or anything, but man, there are details that I see from the MCU every so often that scream "effort." The backstory behind the sitcom homages totally worked for me.
And as for the "mutant stuff" ... I think it's coming in the MCU. One of the biggest pieces of info we got from this week's episode was that Wanda may have very well stopped the Stark Industries weapon from detonating. We pretty much got information that Wanda didn't get all of her powers from the Mind Stone, and why she even survived the experiments done to her with the Mind Stone.
Our girl is a mutant, y'all. There's no way the X-Men aren't going to be a part of the MCU.
Back in the day, many people from different countries with authoritarian governments watched sitcoms from America as a means to learn English-- to learn the language and values from a "free nation," if you will. Sitcoms like I Love Lucy and the Dick Van Dyke Show were essentially smuggled among people in those countries, and it was often considered illegal in those countries (as the government controlled what programming people could watch on TV). Some people were even sent to the gulags for watching this kind of stuff; that's how big of a deal American TV was back in the day. The same thing happened with American-made music as well. True story! Apply this context to Sokovia and Wanda, and I think it works brilliantly. When the context of Wanda's love for these old sitcoms was given, in a violence-ridden Sokovia, it honestly made the episode more emotionally rewarding for me.
The specific Dick Van Dyke episode they referenced, by the way, is one of the most iconic episodes in TV sitcom history (and it's widely considered to be one of the best sitcom episodes of all time). It was an episode that actually dove quite a bit into the sci-fi territory, as stuff like The Twilight Zone was pretty big during that time. Essentially, the episode ends with everything crazy happening being "just a dream." Chilling use of that episode to depict that horror that Wanda and Pietro were going through, if you ask me.
The specific Dick Van Dyke episode they referenced, by the way, is one of the most iconic episodes in TV sitcom history (and it's widely considered to be one of the best sitcom episodes of all time). It was an episode that actually dove quite a bit into the sci-fi territory, as stuff like The Twilight Zone was pretty big during that time. Essentially, the episode ends with everything crazy happening being "just a dream." Chilling use of that episode to depict that horror that Wanda and Pietro were going through, if you ask me.
The context behind Wanda's "sitcom life with Vision" is kind of like the final scene in Endgame, which had more than enough emotional payoff at face value ... But when you know the history behind the song selection during Steve and Peggy's dance, it just hits harder and more effectively. "It's Been a Long, Long Time" was a big hit right when WWII ended, when many women were seeing their loved ones coming back home after being at war. I totally cried in the theater when I saw Endgame for the first time the very second the song started playing, as Cap was finally a soldier that came back home. It was an amazing song choice. Not saying the MCU is perfect and flawless or anything, but man, there are details that I see from the MCU every so often that scream "effort." The backstory behind the sitcom homages totally worked for me.
And as for the "mutant stuff" ... I think it's coming in the MCU. One of the biggest pieces of info we got from this week's episode was that Wanda may have very well stopped the Stark Industries weapon from detonating. We pretty much got information that Wanda didn't get all of her powers from the Mind Stone, and why she even survived the experiments done to her with the Mind Stone.
Our girl is a mutant, y'all. There's no way the X-Men aren't going to be a part of the MCU.
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So dumb question because i can only be assed to half-watch this stuff -
where did the deed to the house/lot in Westview in Wanda's car come from?
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