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I'm trying to get one right now, my dad has a Rem 11, There are so many different makes though it's hard to know on the spot if you are getting a good one
they're not that obscure in the shotgun world. they were in production for over 100 years. a plain jane 12 gauge Darne will run you about 1k if its in good condition.
I got my Model 11 Sportsman for $300 a couple of years ago but I kinda sat on it before getting it fixed up. It was in rough shape; the recoil buffers were... partially non-existent, the action spring looks worked, the buttplate is missing and the butt drilled out, and the receiver full of baked in grease. You can definitely get a good deal still but expect to do some maintenance for sure.
Tacticool stuff seems to be way cheaper than vintage/surplus/curios to me. The market is flooded with AR and other "modern" platforms and tactical accessories and parts but the boomers are still at their maximum buying power blowing milsurp and classic firearms prices to insane levels. Sure, govbidflation stuff like M110s and SCARs are expensive, but run of the mill tactical stuff is easier to get cheaply.
right now you can buy sporting guns like used Merkel SxS shotguns that if bought new are 4-5,000 at the least for 600 dollars. old hunting rifles etc are very undervalued for what they are and the qaulity of their construction and fit/finish far exceeds any of the tacticool stuff you can get.
I'll admit that turbofudd stuff like heirloom side by side shotguns and hunting rifles are a blind spot to me, so all I did to see what you're saying is do a completed listing search on gunbroker. I saw one shotgun in the results that ended for under $1k. I always sort by number of bids of course, because a majority of the listings are boomerpriced and end with zero bids. I could easily walk right past a once in a lifetime deal on stuff like that since my gun interests mostly lie in oddities and old military guns.
In my (very limited) experience, there is a lot less competition at auction. but yeah, old shit is just more valuable in general.
That's kind of what I thought. I'll admit I like stuff that has essentially zero practical use but some things are a hard sell even for me with how many gimmicks they have going on (especially for the price tag). A folding gun is a novel idea, although that specific one has almost zero use case unless it's for prison pocket carry.
I've never looked at finished receivers but I imagine "finished" means finished and they've welded in a trunnion as well as the cocking tube. You'll be looking at pressing a barrel at the most and drilling through the barrel for the pin.
never go by gunbroker sell prices. they are always way higher than on the open market. look at this:
For a $900 pocket pistol in getting a Colt 1908 Pocket hammerless
Their website conspicuously goes from Mk15 to Mk17 and the 17 is a 308 sized version with very similar controls.
No idea what site that is, or even how that Merkel would compare to the one I saw on gunbroker, it is cheap though. I need to find an "open market" for old military guns and HKs (I want to complete my classic HK handgun collection because I already have the two flagships). I generally have no idea how to find decent deals that isn't just "get lucky" via word of mouth or an anomalously low gunbroker auction result.never go by gunbroker sell prices. they are always way higher than on the open market. look at this:
(as an aside all the above guns are essentially the same. all the makers from Suhl all hire from each other and outsource to each other. its interesting to follow.)
All these are very very cheap for what they are, and this is only part of one page from one gun store. and these are not country club level guns.
HK hates you, or something like that. There's a meme about it.
It also doesn't help that the MR556 is an overpriced piece of shit pretending to be a 416. I'm surprised the SP5 ended up being as good as it is considering how shit the rest of the civilian market offerings are from HK (handguns aside.)
That was an easter egg from HK's Boberg competitor, no you can't have it, they've even geoblocked you from looking at it on their site because fuck you.
The site is SimpsonLTD. they sell a lot of these kinds of guns along with milsurp (but the milsurp is expensive like it is everywhere)
By rights that rifle should have been in service today but noooooo Hanel decided to do some lawfare
