Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Tour of Italy]

Plot twist, the US government is donating M4’s and M16’s because they know 5.56 will dry up once we pull out, as opposed to 7.62x39 which flows more easily from the north and east.

That plus they know the AR-15 platform is more vulnerable to neglect in the sandy environment without the US logistics chain and legion of overworked armorers.

I mean not really but whatever.

I’m just salty that my dream of CMP authentic parts kits will never become a reality since we keep giving all our shit away.

On a related note, CMP Garands seem to be on their way out, so I may finally grab one this year. They’re $650 plus a $25-$35 membership to an eligible shooting sports association.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Plot twist, the US government is donating M4’s and M16’s because they know 5.56 will dry up once we pull out, as opposed to 7.62x39 which flows more easily from the north and east.

That plus they know the AR-15 platform is more vulnerable to neglect in the sandy environment without the US logistics chain and legion of overworked armorers.

I mean not really but whatever.

I’m just salty that my dream of CMP authentic parts kits will never become a reality since we keep giving all our shit away.

On a related note, CMP Garands seem to be on their way out, so I may finally grab one this year. They’re $650 plus a $25-$35 membership to an eligible shooting sports association.

Do those 650 garands even work? I was planning on getting one but heard that they are basically just for decoration.

 

[Techpriest]

Plot twist, the US government is donating M4’s and M16’s because they know 5.56 will dry up once we pull out, as opposed to 7.62x39 which flows more easily from the north and east.

That plus they know the AR-15 platform is more vulnerable to neglect in the sandy environment without the US logistics chain and legion of overworked armorers.

I mean not really but whatever.

I’m just salty that my dream of CMP authentic parts kits will never become a reality since we keep giving all our shit away.

On a related note, CMP Garands seem to be on their way out, so I may finally grab one this year. They’re $650 plus a $25-$35 membership to an eligible shooting sports association.

Half of those guns are probably busted. Others probably belonged to the ANA or police.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Do those 650 garands even work? I was planning on getting one but heard that they are basically just for decoration.

They’re “field grade” which means they may have slight surface damage and are likely refitted, including later production barrels and stocks, but my understanding is that they’re functional. That said, I haven’t actually bought one or know anybody who has, so I don’t know for sure.

FIELD GRADE: (FAIR TO GOOD)​

Field Grade Rifles. Most of these rifles have been refinished or rebuilt at least once while in military service and will likely have some parts from other manufacturers. Fair to good condition. Rifle wear will be exhibited by worn and mixed colors of the finish; may have pitting on the metal parts; wood will be basically sound but may be well used with minor hairline cracks, and many dings, scratches and gouges; wood may not match in color, type of wood or condition. These rifles may have some foreign parts and wood may be Walnut, Birch, Beech or other variety. Wood may be new Hackberry wood with no holes drilled for the cleaning kit. Rifles do not have import marks. Bores will be generally good with only minor imperfections; the barrel crown may be nicked, and the muzzle may gauge a 3 on muzzle gauge. The Throat Erosion will gauge less than 5 – well within US Army standards. Do not expect rifles in mint condition in this grade. May come with new wood.

Manufacturer selection only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel and the other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers.

M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship Program

M1 Garand rifles sold by CMP are authentic U.S. Government rifles that have been thoroughly inspected, with a variety of available grades.

thecmp.org

They also have $400 “drill grade” which were deactivated and used for drill by the armed forces before being given to the CMP.

 

[White Devil]

Friend of mine is a Garand autist and has always said those Garands are considered trash, which is why you can actually still get them. Still, might be worth to pick up and refurb yourself if you don't want to wait a few years to grab one in a boomer estate sale.

 

[C.U.N.T.]

Jesus Christ, are you yanks really paying this much for CCI SV? "ON SALE"?
First time I've seen something manufactured in the US, then sent across the world via ship, costs less at the destination than at the source...wtf

Edit: It's cheaper to buy them here even by the individual box of 50 than that, like under 4USD. 5000 rounds are about 370USD.
50rnds of garden variety 9mm for 14USD, and fancier stuff like syntech for 22USD max, again buying individual box/50.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Jesus Christ, are you yanks really paying this much for CCI SV? "ON SALE"?
First time I've seen something manufactured in the US, then sent across the world via ship, costs less at the destination than at the source...wtf
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Edit: It's cheaper to buy them here even by the individual box of 50 than that, like under 4USD. 5000 rounds are about 370USD.
50rnds of garden variety 9mm for 14USD, and fancier stuff like syntech for 22USD max, again buying individual box/50.

The powers that be are using "ammo shortages" to disarm the increasingly frustrated citizens. A couple bong niggers with 22s doesn't keep them up at night but a couple million Americans with 5.56 rifles do.

 

[Meat Target]

Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals tosses out handgun restrictions for under-21s as unconstitutional.

 

[C.U.N.T.]

The powers that be are using "ammo shortages" to disarm the increasingly frustrated citizens. A couple bong niggers with 22s doesn't keep them up at night but a couple million Americans with 5.56 rifles do.

They're always trying. Thankfully any change in legislature here has been accompanied by voluntary buybacks only (which had the opposite intended effect, firearm ownership actually increased). Obviously not many people gave up their AK47s and such. ARs are still legal in any calibre, just tougher to get.
State gun laws override federal law here, but the rub is that feds control customs/import laws.
We pay high prices for actual guns and accessories. I see a 33 round glock magazine on special for 20USD online in the states and just saw a secondhand one locally go for 550USD. Regular capacity new factory ones are around 50USD.

 

[Blasterisk]

They're always trying. Thankfully any change in legislature here has been accompanied by voluntary buybacks only (which had the opposite intended effect, firearm ownership actually increased). Obviously not many people gave up their AK47s and such. ARs are still legal in any calibre, just tougher to get.
State gun laws override federal law here, but the rub is that feds control customs/import laws.
We pay high prices for actual guns and accessories. I see a 33 round glock magazine on special for 20USD online in the states and just saw a secondhand one locally go for 550USD. Regular capacity new factory ones are around 50USD.

How much for an Ender 3?

 

[C.U.N.T.]

How much for an Ender 3?

Quite reasonable.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

They're always trying. Thankfully any change in legislature here has been accompanied by voluntary buybacks only (which had the opposite intended effect, firearm ownership actually increased). Obviously not many people gave up their AK47s and such. ARs are still legal in any calibre, just tougher to get.
State gun laws override federal law here, but the rub is that feds control customs/import laws.
We pay high prices for actual guns and accessories. I see a 33 round glock magazine on special for 20USD online in the states and just saw a secondhand one locally go for 550USD. Regular capacity new factory ones are around 50USD.

Yeah the prices for ammo are coming down. The warehouses can only have so much shelf space. Whatever the feds haven't bought up is mostly gouge priced and only fudds or late to the party gun owners are paying those prices you posted.

Barring another "insurrection" or "mass shooting" things like 7.62x39 may come down from 29 cpr as of now to 17 or 18. 5.56 seems fucked for a while along with 9 tho. 7.62 jumped but it didn't triple or quadruple like the other two.

I legit refuse to pay more than 25 cpr on 9mm fmj and thats still rich for me.

 

[C.U.N.T.]

Yeah the prices for ammo are coming down. The warehouses can only have so much shelf space. Whatever the feds haven't bought up is mostly gouge priced and only fudds or late to the party gun owners are paying those prices you posted.

Barring another "insurrection" or "mass shooting" things like 7.62x39 may come down from 29 cpr as of now to 17 or 18. 5.56 seems fucked for a while along with 9 tho. 7.62 jumped but it didn't triple or quadruple like the other two.

I legit refuse to pay more than 25 cpr on 9mm fmj and thats still rich for me.

I assume most people reload? I've yet to get myself set up but primers and powder are still available, just increased in price a bit. Seems like most people down here were prepared due to the delay in the price increase ripple-effect from the states and have a comfortable amount, anecdotal but ranging from a couple of thousand to some claiming closer to 50,000 rounds of 9mm. We have other companies like Australian Munitions that manufacture 5.56, 7.62 and even .50 cal but the vast majority is intended for the defense forces, so the average person still has to rely on US sources.

Can't comment on 5.56 availability as it's majority .223 - despite us having manufactured them here in the past eg. Australian Automatic Arms. Semi-auto longarms owners are mostly farmers, vertebrate pest control or collectors. You can buy as many non-semiauto .50cals, shotguns etc as you can afford, have a pirate cannon the size of a truck if you want but they start asking questions when you want to get even a .22 rifle in semi-auto.
Handguns thankfully are pretty much left alone, just capacity limited and require a separate licence to longarms.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Magpul made a great commercial, now I can feel like I shooting 30 when its 10.

 

[Particle Bored]

Yeah the prices for ammo are coming down. The warehouses can only have so much shelf space. Whatever the feds haven't bought up is mostly gouge priced and only fudds or late to the party gun owners are paying those prices you posted.

Barring another "insurrection" or "mass shooting" things like 7.62x39 may come down from 29 cpr as of now to 17 or 18. 5.56 seems fucked for a while along with 9 tho. 7.62 jumped but it didn't triple or quadruple like the other two.

I legit refuse to pay more than 25 cpr on 9mm fmj and thats still rich for me.

Maybe I should build a 7.62 upper for my AR instead of the 9mm Ive been thinking about? I liked the idea of being able to use my Glock mags, and wasnt crazy about taking on a new caliber/new mags, but maybe not such a terrible idea?

 

[The Dude]

Maybe I should build a 7.62 upper for my AR instead of the 9mm Ive been thinking about? I liked the idea of being able to use my Glock mags, and wasnt crazy about taking on a new caliber/new mags, but maybe not such a terrible idea?

The big problem with 7.62x39mm ARs is the mags are not very reliable. Most rifles in 7.62x39mm have a continuously curving magazine, like the Kalashnikov. That's to allow reliable feeding with the shape of the cartridge. The AR/M16 originally fed from a straight 20rnd magazine that inserts straight into the magwell of the lower receiver. With 5.5.56x45mm, going from a shallow curve into a straight section doesn't impact how reliably the cartridges feed into the action, but going from a moderate curve into a straight section with the 7.62x39mm cartridge can cause feeding issues. Just one of the issues you can run into when you start making certain firearms chamber cartridges they really weren't designed to chamber. If you really wanted a 7.62x39mm AR you'd be better off getting one of the CMMG Mk47 Mutants since they actually downsized their 7.62x51mm rifle accordingly to accommodate 7.62x39mm, and it takes Kalashnikov magazines.

 

[Reggie Wanker]

Has anyone build an AUG from a parts kit?

Apex has them on sale and I'm curious.

You can't build a semiauto from a parts kit since most of the parts in those parts kit are full auto and are engineered to not work with a semiauto. Many of them have subtle differences that make them unusable with a semiauto. Things like the cocking piece, the trigger pack, and maybe even the stock will not work with semiauto parts. I think there may be a problem with the carrier as well. The kits don't come with a barrel. AUG kits are good for small parts is you already have a semiauto.

 

[Club Sandwich]

You can't build a semiauto from a parts kit since most of the parts in those parts kit are full auto and are engineered to not work with a semiauto. Many of them have subtle differences that make them unusable with a semiauto. Things like the cocking piece, the trigger pack, and maybe even the stock will not work with semiauto parts. I think there may be a problem with the carrier as well. The kits don't come with a barrel. AUG kits are good for small parts is you already have a semiauto.

for clarity, the only difference between an AUG A2 or A3 (AUG A1 has fewer differences because it's quite a bit older than the A2 and A3) and the sporter variations is the carrier group, recoil assembly, receiver, and cocking piece. all other parts are either the same or interchangeable. some parts unique to the sporter is the receiver, piston assembly (no grenade setting), scope mount, sling mount (push-button vs fixed), trigger pack, barrel assembly, safety selector, and carrier assembly, all of which are modified for the sporter variant but can be swapped out for the normal version without much effort. combining parts to try to make an NFA weapon is not simple though, as you will need to modify several parts in precise ways, some parts will simply not work in a "mixed" firearm, and some parts are quite rare as they were imported in tiny numbers or are incompatible entirely (FA receiver for the AUG A2/A3/Carbine/9mm is not possible to get transferable at all).

PJS and APEX have AUG parts, but i'm not sure on their availability for a complete A3 rifle, especially the carrier group. might have to poke around the usual suspects for some parts.

The big problem with 7.62x39mm ARs is the mags are not very reliable.

i think i posted on this topic before. it boils down to either knowing what you're doing when building the 7.62 "fireball" AR, or buying a complete rifle designed and made by someone who knows what they're doing.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Got a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow heading my way. What spare parts to stock up on? Just trigger springs and slidestops?

 

[Meat Target]

Got a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow heading my way. What spare parts to stock up on? Just trigger springs and slidestops?

I dunno about the SP-01, but I had to replace the firing pin retainer/roll pin (the pin on the rear slide serrations) on my 75B after dry-firing it too much. It'll get beat up and not fire.

You can order replacements from CZ Custom or Cajun Gun Works. I got the hollow ones, because allegedly the solid ones can beat up and mushroom the firing pin itself.

And you can replace these with a punch kit and hammer, using a roll of duct tape as a bench block.

I'm severely autistic about this, because my 75B is my baby. Nowadays, whenever I dry-fire practice with it, I stick a rubber O-ring between the hammer and the firing pin.