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WhatInTheActualFuck said:
I used to have a Savage 93R17 BVSS (stainless bull barrel; laminated thumbhole stock) and while I liked how it shot, I hated the bullshit magazines (that were $40 each!) - I'd run the bolt back to extract and the contents of the mag would vomit up out of the action. Bend the feed lips a bit and you could get a mag or two through and then it happened all over again.

That said, it (particularly with the Hornady poly-tipped loads) was amazing on squirrels and other small pests - they basically explode when hit just from sheer velocity.

Now I just use .22LR for the same purpose though.
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Well the magazines always felt kinda cheap to me, especially the manner in which they engaged the rifle, plain old flat piece of spring steel, no button like Ruger? I never had any issues with the mags failing on me though. Its been so long I cant recall what I paid for the magazines couldn't have been more than $20. Other than that I love the rifle and love the cartridge. As I mentioned previously that Barska 17HMR scope was a perfect match. I added a knock off style Harris bipod and the thing was a deluxe light quiet squirrel exterminator package. It always put them down quick and humanly.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
The closest I can figure is instead of locking at the front of the mag-well they lock at the rear; replacing the standard mag release paddle with a button/lever on the receiver (just above where the original release should be).
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They also have a version for their RPK, which makes a little more sense.
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But not much, considering they don't even have bipods.
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Considering North Korean tactics are barely trained troops shooting as fast as they can in hordes, helical magazines make sense, especially on a RPK, even if it doesn't have a removable barrel, it's still heavy enough to take a mag dump from a trigger happy NoKo. Now how wide spread they are? Idk man. I'd imagine it's more of a squad/ special unit thing
 
Troon_Patrol said:
I hate to agree but, when the LEO/DA looks at a shooting they take into account how offensive the firearm looks. I don't have Punisher grips on my 1911s and I don't have words on my AR's dust cover. Years ago I bought a Colt revolver off a nice old man, he tells me "if you got to shoot someone, shoot them with this, makes you look like Andy Griffith"

Years ago when Daniel Shaver was killed by the police, one of factors the DA mentioned was the dust cover it said "you're fucked!" or something cringe like that, it was the officers personal rife, approved for use by the dept. The shooting itself was one fucking hell of a bad shoot, the LT is screaming/threatening this guy contradictory commands, the guy is crying, there was no firearm found on his person or in the hotel room. Point being the optics of the language on the AR were a factor, now in my opinion the LT and the shooter should have been prosecuted but that's a different story.
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The retarded pig-faggot that killed Daniel Shaver deserves to be drowned in an outhouse.
 
Everyone's favorite gun printer, Ivan the Troll has made a DIY Composite Glock slide primarily out of PLA and random pieces of metal and surprisingly, it works even without an extractor (and actually *better*)
What is most intriguing is that Ivan says he has thought up ways the design could be even further improved.

Lead and Steel, manufacturers of the Promethean LP-1 RDS and soon Acro Footprint Pandora PB-3 MRDS are working on an ACOG Clone with, get this, Japanese Glass.

-Adjustable Diopter
-Fiberwire Illumination like that of the Primary Arms Nova
-Targeted price is sub $500
 

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Open question: Would you buy a FN PS90 if it was SBR'ed and more importantly, was chambered in a better cartridge? Something ballistically equivalent to .357 sig? maybe a 10mm P90?

It seems like the gun design had potential but, was made in an overpriced/under-powered/pointless to supress/hard to find cartridge.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Open question: Would you buy a FN PS90 if it was SBR'ed and more importantly, was chambered in a better cartridge? Something ballistically equivalent to .357 sig? maybe a 10mm P90?

It seems like the gun design had potential but, was made in an overpriced/under-powered/pointless to supress/hard to find cartridge.
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No. Besides the fact that it's a bullpup and I hate those, try doing a tac reload on one of those.

I'd take a Hi Point 10mm carbine over a P90.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Open question: Would you buy a FN PS90 if it was SBR'ed and more importantly, was chambered in a better cartridge? Something ballistically equivalent to .357 sig? maybe a 10mm P90?

It seems like the gun design had potential but, was made in an overpriced/under-powered/pointless to supress/hard to find cartridge.
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Does it still cost $3,000? There are a lot of guns I'd rather own for $3k. Bullpups are weird. I don't have much experience with them and I don't want more. Maybe it's just "new is bad", but I feel like there are practical marks against bullpups. I would take one and shoot it sometimes if I were given one for free in a non-gay or more realistically, a less gay caliber.
 
I don't hate bullpups and here's why: mag changes are always terrible but, statistics and realistic civilian and even LE shootings are about 5-10 rounds max. Unless this would be your service rifle as an actual infantryman in actual combat you never make it to 10 rounds. I will concede in combat the rounds fired for a confirmed kill are astoundingly high and you want all six magazines to go in fast and easy. And no, it doesn't cost 3k, for the purposes of this hypothetical argument it would cost the same as a high quality PCC.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
I don't hate bullpups and here's why: mag changes are always terrible but, statistics and realistic civilian and even LE shootings are about 5-10 rounds max. Unless this would be your service rifle as an actual infantryman in actual combat you never make it to 10 rounds. I will concede in combat the rounds fired for a confirmed kill are astoundingly high and you want all six magazines to go in fast and easy. And no, it doesn't cost 3k, for the purposes of this hypothetical argument it would cost the same as a high quality PCC.
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Your fantasy PS90 should also lose the retarded grips, too. I've never shot one, but I expect that I'd hate those fucking grips.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
I don't hate bullpups and here's why: mag changes are always terrible but, statistics and realistic civilian and even LE shootings are about 5-10 rounds max. Unless this would be your service rifle as an actual infantryman in actual combat you never make it to 10 rounds. I will concede in combat the rounds fired for a confirmed kill are astoundingly high and you want all six magazines to go in fast and easy. And no, it doesn't cost 3k, for the purposes of this hypothetical argument it would cost the same as a high quality PCC.
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As a serious fighting rifle in the US? Not a fucking chance. The logistics for parts and service isn't there. I think it's known I fucking love AKs, but I still disagree with the idiots who think it'd be a good fighting rifle in the US. Good parts are sparse and it's very well known that US made parts for AKs are beneath dog shit.

Now if this mythical P90 of yours is just a toy, go for it if that's what you want but I'd still pass. I'm getting on in years and I still don't think anything else holds a candle to the MP5 except in weight. And parts are plentiful because it's been in law enforcement service for over 40 years.
 
White Devil said:
As a serious fighting rifle in the US? Not a fucking chance. The logistics for parts and service isn't there. I think it's known I fucking love AKs, but I still disagree with the idiots who think it'd be a good fighting rifle in the US. Good parts are sparse and it's very well known that US made parts for AKs are beneath dog shit.

Now if this mythical P90 of yours is just a toy, go for it if that's what you want but I'd still pass. I'm getting on in years and I still don't think anything else holds a candle to the MP5 except in weight. And parts are plentiful because it's been in law enforcement service for over 40 years.
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The good old roller-delayed blowback Mp5, I won't date myself but, I grew up watching the MP5 mow down the bad guys. About 3-4 years ago I got the 9mm PCC itch and looked at Mp5's or rather build kits and jigs and such, for many reasons I prefer to build rather than buy but, anyway I ended up with the AR pattern and a radial delayed blowback system. It slowed down locktime just enough to reduce recoil and really shine with a can. IMHO a strait blowback 9mm does not handle the backpressure of a can well at all.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Open Question: You are building a precision Target/Varmit AR, Does it make sense to go with a .224 Valkyrie over .223 or a .223 Wylde chamber? Just when I think I have enough guns, I see Palmetto State selling a fucking .224 Valkyrie stainless 20" complete upper for less than a price of a police exchange Glock, wtf? Priced at $399.00 on the PSA webpage.


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IMO no. .224 was a flash in the pan.
Stick with .223 here.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Open Question: You are building a precision Target/Varmit AR, Does it make sense to go with a .224 Valkyrie over .223 or a .223 Wylde chamber? Just when I think I have enough guns, I see Palmetto State selling a fucking .224 Valkyrie stainless 20" complete upper for less than a price of a police exchange Glock, wtf? Priced at $399.00 on the PSA webpage.


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Does Valkyrie offer enough advantages for you over .223 to pay double the price per round or whatever it's at these days? Never shot it myself, but my understanding is it allows you to shoot heavier bullets or similar weight bullets faster to extend range. You don't need heavier rounds for varmints. Are you taking them at 5-800yds?

Buy the PSA if you want. You don't have to justify your guns to anyone but your wife and that's your business.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Open Question: You are building a precision Target/Varmit AR, Does it make sense to go with a .224 Valkyrie over .223 or a .223 Wylde chamber? Just when I think I have enough guns, I see Palmetto State selling a fucking .224 Valkyrie stainless 20" complete upper for less than a price of a police exchange Glock, wtf? Priced at $399.00 on the PSA webpage.


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.224 is a dead cartridge that from what I understand died because of issues with factory loads, lack of availability for certain bullet weights and a fairly minor performance increase that to many simply wasn't worth the expense and hassle. I vaguely also remember hearing something that you needed to handload to actually get the performance that the cartridge was designed for.
 
break these cuffs said:
Does Valkyrie offer enough advantages for you over .223 to pay double the price per round or whatever it's at these days? Never shot it myself, but my understanding is it allows you to shoot heavier bullets or similar weight bullets faster to extend range. You don't need heavier rounds for varmints. Are you taking them at 5-800yds?

Buy the PSA if you want. You don't have to justify your guns to anyone but your wife and that's your business.
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Something like this I would only feed match grade ammo, so I'd be paying $2-3 a cartridge anyway .223 or .224. I have an understand with my girl, I do not question her make-up spending and she does not question my firearm spending, she recognizes it's a very useful hobby in the society we live in these days.

AGPinochet said:
.224 is a dead cartridge that from what I understand died because of issues with factory loads, lack of availability for certain bullet weights and a fairly minor performance increase that to many simply wasn't worth the expense and hassle. I vaguely also remember hearing something that you needed to handload to actually get the performance that the cartridge was designed for.
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I do not shoot long range but, my understanding is for peak performance in -any- cartridge, hand-loads are a must. I do not reload and have no interest in spending the time and money to begin reloading. I wish there was a service where you could just pay some guy who loves reloading to build-up a tailored cartridge, give him your credit card and she just ships you hand-loads made to your specs.
 
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Troon_Patrol said:
. I have an understand with my girl, I do not question her make-up spending and she does not question my firearm spending
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Fucked up thing is she is probably spending more.

.224 Valkyrie died before it could take off, you're better with Wyld because it can shoot regular .223/5.56 as well.
 
Troon_Patrol said:
Something like this I would only feed match grade ammo, so I'd be paying $2-3 a cartridge anyway .223 or .224. I have an understand with my girl, I do not question her make-up spending and she does not question my firearm spending, she recognizes it's a very useful hobby in the society we live in these days.



I do not shoot long range but, my understanding is for peak performance in -any- cartridge, hand-loads are a must. I do not reload and have no interest in spending the time and money to begin reloading. I wish there was a service where you could just pay some guy who loves reloading to build-up a tailored cartridge, give him your credit card and she just ships you hand-loads made to your specs.
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Federal offers that service. Dunno how much it costs but you send your gun to them and they tailor a hand load to your gun. Then you pay through the nose for custom handload ammo in case quantities.
 
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