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FamicomGorby said:
I kinda doubt it since while no one really likes the internal lock it clearly hasn't not been a deal breaker for most people. It does it's real job of getting some small amount of political good will and removing it would inevitably get Everytown spinning a narrative like "S&W REMOVES VITAL SAFETY FEATURE, THINK OF THE CHILDRENS!" Maybe if they move their revolver manufacturing to Tennessee, it's all still in MA right now.
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I think at this point, with all the tooling they've invested in, not only would it politically fuck them over, it just wouldn't be economical. S&W HAVE models without the Hillary Hole that they market, but if they tried that for all of them, that's a lot of tooling they have to scrap or mothball.

That and as you said, their Revolvers sell like hot cakes. Clearly the impact has been minimal to the point it's just people bitching (while they still buy their shit). I can't really get on them for keeping it when all their numbers across the board says it's having no effect. That and they actually still innovate on their Revolvers, even if it's a bit goofy, like that big ass 350 legend one. It's goofy, I doubt it's a hot seller, but it says a lot that they still do stuff with revolvers, a ancient design many consider obsolete, and actually turn a profit from it
 
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Lastly I was made aware of a very interesting report via a video from Kommando Store regarding the low end pistol manufacturers of the Southern California "Ring of Fire"
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I have found a 1997 Documentary entitled "Hot Guns". The subject is broadly the Californian Ring of Fire manufacturers but is largely focused on Lorcin Engineering and one of it's employees, Jeremy Mendoza. Mendoza stole and illegally sold an estimated 6000 guns from the Lorcin factory, ATF believes that as many as 14,000 guns in total went missing from the Lorcin factory. He would sell pistols new in the box by the case to an ATF CI as well as others on multiple occasions leading to his inevitable downfall, while the pistols actually had serial numbers Lorcin never reported their existence to the ATF leading them to be untracable. There is also an interview with a former Lorcin plant supervisor that claims due to poor record keeping he had to devise his own system to keep track of guns and alleges widespread theft of guns by employees other than Mendoza and drugs being sold on the factory premises.

The same channel also hosts two other videos I thought would be of interest
Next and remaining on the topic of "crime guns" I wanted to bring up the R9 Arms SMG. R9 Arms is a manufacturer that doesn't exist, not in the sense that it existed in the past but does not now, it has at no point in time ever existed. It is a fictional entity invented by (probably anyway) a Croatian man named Mirko Vugrek and or his sons Ivan and Mirko Jr. They have been siezed across Europe.
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The Vugrek family home was raided twice, once in 2006 and again in 2015, both times police found manufacturing equipment and guns in various states of completion.
Now you're probably asking, How did this Croatian man make a gun of such quality?
He had prior experience making the Agram 2000 SMG (also famous for use by criminals) during the 1991 Croatian Homeland War (the manufacturer of which he would continue for some time after the end of the war).

While gathering links to this segment I found an ARES article on another variety of craft made smg's with fake markings, which the article points out has several components that are similar to parts found on the Zagi M91 SMG, also produced by during the 1991 war. Is this evidence of another "Croatian Connection"? I dunno.
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Hornady has introduced a new cartridge and a new bullet line to accompany it, the 22 ARC (a necked down version of their earlier 6mm ARC) and the ELD-VT bullet line (it kill the SHIT out of dem der varmints)
Hornady claims to have created a cartridge that replicates .22-250 performance in a AR-15 package. Factory ammo options range in gr weight from 62-88gr. Hornady has a multitude of other videos on the cartridge comparing it to several other different cartridges and outlining it's use case but I'm not linking them all.

Lastly in light of an apparent emerging trend in PCC's with modular magazine wells I wanted to bring to attention a SMG of olde that I think is quite neat. The MP-41(r), a WW2 German conversion of a captured PPSh-41 to 9mm using MP-40 magazines. The magazine wells were simple parts that were either cast or machined.
 

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1Tonka_Truck said:
This has to be the goofiest MP7 on the planet.
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What in the 2004 Classic FPS Killzone for the PS2 is that? I'm trying to figure out the lines on it, but my eyes keep getting confused.
Won't lie though, I do like how the flip down foregrip nestles into the trigger guard, that's nice.
 
BallsMcLongDong said:
Do you know of any thigh or chest rig that will accommodate a scope? Or is that something I will have to modify/fabricate?
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Club Sandwich said:
Triple K (crappy magazines, pretty decent leatherwork) also makes some but you might need to find something that properly fits.
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I’ve been using one of these for a scoped Redhawk, maybe not the most attractive option but I liked the creative solution and the use of leather.

 
ChampFantana said:
I don't know much about mouse guns, but I'm considering getting a compact piece for pocket carry/backup to my CCW. Is .32acp a capable defense round?
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It sure is, smallest I'd probably go for deep concealment unless you can only handle
.22lr or want an absolutely tiny .22lr pistol.
Yandex Captcha Solver said:
I would go with a Ruger LCP II in 380 before 32. 380 is already kind of iffy for self defense and a 380 almost has twice the muzzle energy of a 32. If your looking at a Keltec P32, it is just slightly smaller than a LCP II. The LCP II is almost too small in my hands as I can barely put two fingers on the grip with the little mag extension.

You will also easily find ammo for a 380 and it will be cheaper, don't see 32 on the shelves very often.
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Yeah although the P-32 is quite small and won't be as snappy as .380.
Pocket Dragoon said:
.32ACP is pretty hard to find, anemic compared to .380 (which itself is only barely adequate), and really the only reason it still exists is to feed vintage pistols like Grandma's purse pistol, old milsurps, caliber-restricted origin/weird euro mouse-guns, etc. But if you do obtain one & like carrying it, and/or have no other options, by all means. World War 1/2 private-purchase officer's guns & Depression-era vest pistols are still cool as fuck; I just wouldn't want to carry an heirloom or something that can't be replaced easily. Sure, there are still new pistols being made in .32ACP, but also in .380ACP with the exact same form factor.

However, as for other .32 cartridges; H&R Magnum is a completely different story, if you like wheelguns & oddball production calibers.
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Talk about hard to find, .32 H&R mag just up an vanished
DocAwe said:
I liked the Kel-Tek P32 enough that I acquired 2 of them.
It's slightly smaller, easier to shoot, holds one more round, and locks open on the last shot.
If I ever had to ackually use it I would just keep firing to slide lock.
Remember, all handguns are a compromise.
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Yep, you want something small that won't give you arthritis after a magazine/cylinder? .32 in a blowback or maybe .380 is a Browning action semi auto. . 38 special revolver, anything bigger in a small size is murder on the hands.
JIDF Team 6 said:
RIP 416: 2005-2023
Long live (((SIG)))
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Nature is healing.
JIDF Team 6 said:
It isn't really a Spear. SIG just calls the civilian MCX that now for marketing purposes. This was a custom program designed around 5.56.

The requirement that led to 6.8 was the ability to penetrate level IV armor at 600m. It's totally unrealistic and produces a rifle with untenable recoil. Soldiers can't shoot accurately at 200m with 5.56 currently.
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Yep, the entire NGSW thing was Mark Milley's pet project. A bullet that'd essentially .300 win mag out of a 13 inch barrel was retarded.
FamicomGorby said:
I kinda doubt it since while no one really likes the internal lock it clearly hasn't been a deal breaker for most people. It does its real job of getting some small amount of political good will and removing it would inevitably get Everytown spinning a narrative like "S&W REMOVES VITAL SAFETY FEATURE, THINK OF THE CHILDRENS!" Maybe if they move their revolver manufacturing to Tennessee, it's all still in MA right now.
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Ever since getting my 617 and 686 I've been wanting more and more S&W revolvers. A model 60 or a Model 36, a Model 63, and a Model 640/642..... Please help my wallet can't take much more.
 
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Falcos_Commisar said:
Ever since getting my 617 and 686 I've been wanting more and more S&W revolvers. A model 60 or a Model 36, a Model 63, and a Model 640..... Please help my wallet can't take much more.
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Give in, loser. S&W is a cult and an addiction. Whenever you get your hands on a quality S&W wheelgun, your dreams become littered with flashes of that sweet, crisp lockup and bang.
(plus I got used to them and feel like a retard every time I get handed a colt and the cylinder goes the other way and it's pull instead of push to release)
 
BallsMcLongDong said:
Do you know of any thigh or chest rig that will accommodate a scope? Or is that something I will have to modify/fabricate?
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People may laugh, but I've been finding a lot of good handmade, fitted leather holsters on Etsy, including ones for oddball/uncommon pistols. Also try checking further afield, if you know how to do a little keyword search Kung Fu.

As far as prices go, they range from competitive to bespoke, compared with commercial "custom" holsters. I found one for my wife's Spectrum when nobody else made anything besides generic stuff with Uncle Mike's-tier fit; plus I have another commissioned for a concealed-carry shoulder rig from Nightingale Leather (highly recommended) to fit my East German Makarov; in my head it's what an undercover Stasi or KGB agent would've worn.
Edit: specifically: Sandpiper holster system
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While his stuff is not going to be cheap & lead times are longish, you definitely get what you pay for. Good luck!
 
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1Tonka_Truck said:
This has to be the goofiest MP7 on the planet.
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WhatInTheActualFuck said:
That optics setup is definitely something else.
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The GBRS Hyrdra mount seen there was created to solve problems that don't exist - using IR laser devices on guns with really short handguards; or handguards that have too much flex to hold consistent POA/POI. The issue with the small handguard argument is that the mount is so bulky it defeats the purpose of using a gun as compact as an MP7 in the first place. The bendy boi handguard argument is more valid (I wouldn't want to use a Geissele MK14 or SIG MCX) but at that point you should probably get a non-shitty rifle, rather than invent a whole new optics mounting solution to cope with your shitty rifle.

Or mount your laser farther back on the handguard to reduce shift (though that has its own complications)

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Guncad Dev DB Firearms has posted an NYPD guide on "Ghost Guns"
Odysee link to full report (Your money may vary but for me clicking the link auto opens a pdf)
I believe this direct link should also work

Another Dev, Crawdad, has created a 3D Printed frame for a Lorcin Engineering L380. While not necessarily likely it is possible that Jeremy Mendoza stole a pistol that would eventually be seized by police, which the police would then transfer to a company like Everygunpart.com (there whole business is destroying receivers for guns seized by police and reselling everything else as repair kits and spare parts) for "destruction" and the resulting parts kit would be fitted to a 3D printed frame some 30 odd years later.

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An, interesting to say the least photo from a recent TFB article on ear protection
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A minor thing, some of you may be aware of a mysterious and unacknowledged LPVO from Vortex, that is much smaller than their existing Gen III Razor 1-10 most recently seen in use with the KAC KS-1/L403A1, well I have discovered that it's supposed Project name is Eleanor.
The earliest mention I can find is from a user named Matt in a Soldier Systems comment section
However a confirmation can be found in a recent video from Forces News
The Eleanor name is referenced at 2:07 and a view through the scope can be had from 2:27 to 2:32. The scope uses the Vortex EBR9 MRAD Reticle.

I have recently learned of the existence of a very interesting rifle and its even more interesting creator, the MGI Hydra and Mack Gwinn respectively. The MGI is a modular, multi caliber rifle that uses a common receiver with interchangeable magazine wells that can use standard AR, AK and Colt SMG magazines. Now you ask, besides the magazine wells what is so special about this rifle? LMT is also multi caliber! The real defining feature of this rifle is that it uses standard AR barrels, that's right, there is no need for proprietary $350 barrels (albeit standard AR barrels can be professionally modified to lock up with the LMT screw system), if your upper can accept it and the barrel is nominally in spec the MGI Hydra can utilize it. While there is to my knowledge no images of the actual locking mechanism internals how I believe the system works is that is locks on the "lip" of the barrel extension securing the barrel in place
Mack Gwinn, the creator was a Vietnam veteran with several designs under his belt, most notably the Quick Change Barrel mechanism for the M2 Browning HMG, The Bushmaster Assault Rifle (A long stroke AR before PWS made it cool, Ian has a great video on it), the even cooler Arm Pistol and a collaboration with none other than THE Jim Sullivan on a rate reduction system for AR rifles (which I believe would go on to be produced by Fefrans)
Article on Mack Gwinn
In 2015, MGI would enter into a licensing agreement with now defunct Windham Weaponry as a result of poor sales and low product awareness on the market, WW would produce the Hydra under the MCS line. Here is a video from Chris Bartocci of Small Arms Solutions on the guns. He demonstrates the adaptability of the system by converting the gun to 6mm ARC, a cartridge that obviously did not exist at the time of the gun's creation

Next is a video I found of an interview with Navy SEAL Michael J. Walsh that was made sometime before the year 2000. The subject of discussion is the Stoner 63 and general SEAL Operations.
The most interesting things I took away
-One of the changes made to the Stoner 63A, an enhancement of the original 63 was the addition of the "Dead Man Pin". A modified take down pin with added elements to secure it in place, named as such as a SEAL riding in a boat was apparently killed when his receiver accidentally opened up as a result of the take down pin walking out, sending the bolt of his Stoner LMG forward causing several rounds to be fired into his chest, killing him instantly. This change is discussed from 18:04 to 19:04
-SEAL Platoons were heavily armed to a comedic degree, Walsh says that on his first deployment in his 7 man squad 3 carried Stoners of unstated configuration (I would assume LMG, supported by a statement regarding firepower), 2 had M60's, he had an AK and the radioman had a CAR-15. He also says that the other squad in the platoon also had 3 Stoner's and this set up gave a SEAL Platoon "the firepower of an Infantry company". Assuming that both Platoon's were mirrored that would mean 10 men were carring belt fed weapons per 14 man platoon with the other 4 carrying assault rifles.
-14:29 shows a Stoner LMG with a modified RPD belt carrying drum attached.
-SEAL's would extend the standard ammunition boxes to increase their capacity from 100 to "roughly 180" (14:43-15:00) with another SEAL doing a similar modification and achieving a capacity of 200 (15:07-15:20).
-From 16:19 to 16:39 you can catch glimpses of a 63 in LMG configuration with a wire stock.
-From 24:54 to 25:04 you can see an M-60 in "Death Machine" configuration with a backpack ammo feed, MACV-SOG was known to operate a similar model but with a shortened barrel.

Kris Brown, President of Brady has been making some noises at Ruger, some are speculating that Brady might try to pull an Everytown and trick the families of the Lewiston victims into launching a frivolous lawsuit against Ruger that will leave them bankrupt like Everytown did against Luckygunner

Matthew Moss, Operator of Historical Firearms, The Armorer's Bench staff member and occasional TFB contributor has posted an interesting image of a PKT Machinegun intended for use in tanks converted to Infantry use and being operated by a Ukrainian combatant. Note the novel rotary rear sight
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This conversion differs from previously seen examples in the stock and obviously the rear sight, past conversions utilized standard PK series stocks.
I also found this Silah Report article that prominently features a converted PKT from the first Nagorno Karabakh war and a factory made conversion kit from Tula
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Lastly we have "The Sarvis Device", an arm mounted M1/2 Carbine.
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Now I have actually known of this gun for some time, I learned of it from a short lived TV show that I do not remember the name of nor what channel it broadcasted on. The TV Show centered around a (I believe) Las Vegas gun shop and it's two co-owners, one of which was a fat hispanic guy who kind of looked like guntuber Roger Barrera. The show ran for 5-6 episodes and featured several extremely cool items and custom build projects. The problem is that I can literally find no reference to this show online, I have searched and searched and searched and found nothing. The one detail that sticks with me is that in the last or second to last episode the Hispanic dude spends half the runtime talking with his daughter about her womanly feelings and other assorted shit. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? The show premiered no more than 6-7 years ago.
 
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Neat concept, but maybe too easy to accidentally mess with in heat of battle.
 
AGPinochet said:
Kris Brown, President of Brady has been making some noises at Ruger, some are speculating that Brady might try to pull an Everytown and trick the families of the Lewiston victims into launching a frivolous lawsuit against Ruger that will leave them bankrupt like Everytown did against Luckygunner
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I hope not. Every Ruger I've shot has been solid as fuck, and that security 380 is still on my wish list
BallsMcLongDong said:
Give in, loser. S&W is a cult and an addiction. Whenever you get your hands on a quality S&W wheelgun, your dreams become littered with flashes of that sweet, crisp lockup and bang.
(plus I got used to them and feel like a retard every time I get handed a colt and the cylinder goes the other way and it's pull instead of push to release)
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It is. I have a beat up old pre lock Model 36 that looks half dead, and let me tell you, that trigger pull has only gotten better with age. Heavy but smooth, and in single action, the slightest touch will set it off. In other words perfect. Smith and Wesson knows their lockwork and just makes good guns.
 
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