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Now I’m thinking about a Ruger LCP chambered in the new Federal round and it’s got me intrigued - 8 rounds of ~300ish ft-lbs. Pocket carry gets more effective.
 
KUSA is now teasing a 556 AK on IG.
I'm conflicted on if I should go ahead and get a KUSA KR-104 in 7.62x39 or hold off for a potential 5.56 variant like an AK-102. I have more 5.56 than I know what to do with, but I know a 7.62 AK is the purest form of an AK and I might regret not getting one..
 
I'm conflicted on if I should go ahead and get a KUSA KR-104 in 7.62x39 or hold off for a potential 5.56 variant like an AK-102. I have more 5.56 than I know what to do with, but I know a 7.62 AK is the purest form of an AK and I might regret not getting one..
Why not grab a KUSA 103 and a Zastava M90 or M85?
 
Just velocity, bullet weight, and expansion of whatever load they’re selling so far. I’m very curious about the SAAMI specs, but I haven’t seen those yet. They may be self limiting to encourage chambering in micro compacts that could otherwise be battered by a full power load.
You won’t see SAAMI specs for at minimum a couple of weeks. SAAMI only meets a couple of times a year, one of which is SHOT.

Looked up the velocity and weights they are claiming. They don’t say what length barrel they are shooting out of but I would assume a 4” as that is standard for pistol test barrels. If they are moving a 100-115 GR bullet at 1250ft/sec out of a smaller diameter 9mm, the pressures are going to be pretty crazy. I would bet the recoil in a compact gun is going to be pretty snappy. I did notice in the recoil comparison the 1911 in .30 was ported but the .45 was not. I’m sure we will find out more at SHOT.
 
i bet i could cook up a 15-16 shot "cz-52" prototype in .30 super carry.

also "gun-tourism" has been a thing since the 80s since a lot of SE Asian countries were open to the idea of accepting cash for access to leftover arms shot into the jungle. they get to pocket foreign money and get rid of war surplus that would otherwise be a danger (to the public and/or current government). when i was running around Africa, similar stuff was going on, but at a much lower rate. most sort of weapons you would get surplus tended to be in very rough condition also serviceable. you would mostly see surplus and abandoned weapons in the hands of police or military as the cost of acquiring, maintaining, and their logistics is very low.

whether from the US or Russia/USSR, it's usually quite expensive to ship things there, and it's not like it's cheaper to ship things back, so from a money perspective, if it's far enough away, it's both "little danger" and lower cost to just abandon it with only cursory attempts at disabling or destroying it. i can't even count the number of places i've been where surplus gear abandoned during a retreat or surrender is what gets passed around to the new crop of terrorists or sold abroad for profit and head off any local uprisings with easy to repair gear.

it seriously angers me (and every other veteran i know) that the US abandoned all these weapons to our enemies, especially the entire concept of equipping a fair weather ally (ANA). thermite and C4 is pretty cheap in bulk and it wouldn't take much time or logistics to destroy all of that. it wouldn't help that the ANA handed over the gear we sold (to ourselves basically, since the US bankrolled the ANA to a very large extent), but it would have reduced it significantly. that being said i can see that with the time table being worked with, they prioritized destroying more strategic gear (helicopters, tanks, artillery) than small arms. what a complete shit show.
 
i bet i could cook up a 15-16 shot "cz-52" prototype in .30 super carry.
One of the weak points in the CZ-52 was the thinness of the chamber walls, so an opportunity to beef it up for a thinner case sounds like a good idea. The slide might not take it, though. Godspeed.
 
i bet i could cook up a 15-16 shot "cz-52" prototype in .30 super carry.

also "gun-tourism" has been a thing since the 80s since a lot of SE Asian countries were open to the idea of accepting cash for access to leftover arms shot into the jungle. they get to pocket foreign money and get rid of war surplus that would otherwise be a danger (to the public and/or current government). when i was running around Africa, similar stuff was going on, but at a much lower rate. most sort of weapons you would get surplus tended to be in very rough condition also serviceable. you would mostly see surplus and abandoned weapons in the hands of police or military as the cost of acquiring, maintaining, and their logistics is very low.

whether from the US or Russia/USSR, it's usually quite expensive to ship things there, and it's not like it's cheaper to ship things back, so from a money perspective, if it's far enough away, it's both "little danger" and lower cost to just abandon it with only cursory attempts at disabling or destroying it. i can't even count the number of places i've been where surplus gear abandoned during a retreat or surrender is what gets passed around to the new crop of terrorists or sold abroad for profit and head off any local uprisings with easy to repair gear.

it seriously angers me (and every other veteran i know) that the US abandoned all these weapons to our enemies, especially the entire concept of equipping a fair weather ally (ANA). thermite and C4 is pretty cheap in bulk and it wouldn't take much time or logistics to destroy all of that. it wouldn't help that the ANA handed over the gear we sold (to ourselves basically, since the US bankrolled the ANA to a very large extent), but it would have reduced it significantly. that being said i can see that with the time table being worked with, they prioritized destroying more strategic gear (helicopters, tanks, artillery) than small arms. what a complete shit show.
I've thought about going to the Cu Chi Tunnels in Saigon to shoot off a bunch of the ARVN surplus they have there for tourists but apparently the ammo is super expensive and the guns themselves are bolted to the range tables like you find in cucked countries.
 
I've thought about going to the Cu Chi Tunnels in Saigon to shoot off a bunch of the ARVN surplus they have there for tourists but apparently the ammo is super expensive and the guns themselves are bolted to the range tables like you find in cucked countries.
I read a blog post about some apparently super awesome gun range in Occupied West Taiwan where you could shoot all the toys all the way up to 12.7 Dshkas and apparently it was just they're fixed in place and there's a little hole in the glass you stick your hand through to pull the trigger. It was the most pathetic thing I'd ever read. Unironically worse than taking airsoft to a gun range.
 
Like in Korea, where your gun is locked to a chain like a bicycle and you have a supervisor behind you all times that handles reloadings and malfunctions.

(also desert eagle jams @ 1:20)

Anyway, as an eurofag, I don't have much content or knowledge to post here so back to lurking, I guess. While I'm here I must say that this thread is very interesting to read and hopefully I'll get a weapon loicense when I'll get the chance.
 
I read a blog post about some apparently super awesome gun range in Occupied West Taiwan where you could shoot all the toys all the way up to 12.7 Dshkas and apparently it was just they're fixed in place and there's a little hole in the glass you stick your hand through to pull the trigger. It was the most pathetic thing I'd ever read. Unironically worse than taking airsoft to a gun range.
The one I was looking at wasn't quite that bad, you're able to reach the whole gun but the barrel is fixed to the table so you're not doing anything else with it.
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What really got me was how fucking expensive it all is, I always figured they were sitting on cheap mountains of surplus that might make it worth it.
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That's like $2.50 a round for old ass Vietnam surplus ammo that's been lying around in tropical conditions for decades, might as well just go to Battlefield Vegas at that point.
 
Anyway, as an eurofag, I don't have much content or knowledge to post here so back to lurking, I guess. While I'm here I must say that this thread is very interesting to read and hopefully I'll get a weapon loicense when I'll get the chance.
Move to the Czech Republic.
The one I was looking at wasn't quite that bad, you're able to reach the whole gun but the barrel is fixed to the table so you're not doing anything else with it.
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What really got me was how fucking expensive it all is, I always figured they were sitting on cheap mountains of surplus that might make it worth it.
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That's like $2.50 a round for old ass Vietnam surplus ammo that's been lying around in tropical conditions for decades, might as well just go to Battlefield Vegas at that point.
Bullets are expensive when you're shooting corrosive ammo through rotten metal that hasn't been cleaned since there was a South Vietnam. A bottle of Hoppes has to be worth free BJs for a month at the finest whorehouse in the village.
 
Battlefield Vegas at that point
maybe it includes hiring a VC impersonator to yell at you while you shoot. if it did, that might be worth it. the few SE Asian ranges i've been to as a tourist weren't this bad though. Chiang Mai in Thailand for example. while not especially "cheap", it's certainly cheaper than the Vietnam prices. around $100 for 5 hand grenades (mix and match frag/smoke/incendiary) at wreck vehicles, or $250 to shoot an RPG-7 ($100 per extra rocket). while still mostly war surplus, Thailand did actually use and keep up with maintenance on the stuff, and the ammo is pretty recent manufacture (80's and 90's mostly since Thailand and Malaysia and others use 5.56 NATO as a service round still). around $5 per magazine, or $20 per drum iirc.
 
maybe it includes hiring a VC impersonator to yell at you while you shoot. if it did, that might be worth it. the few SE Asian ranges i've been to as a tourist weren't this bad though. Chiang Mai in Thailand for example. while not especially "cheap", it's certainly cheaper than the Vietnam prices. around $100 for 5 hand grenades (mix and match frag/smoke/incendiary) at wreck vehicles, or $250 to shoot an RPG-7 ($100 per extra rocket). while still mostly war surplus, Thailand did actually use and keep up with maintenance on the stuff, and the ammo is pretty recent manufacture (80's and 90's mostly since Thailand and Malaysia and others use 5.56 NATO as a service round still). around $5 per magazine, or $20 per drum iirc.
If I can't recreate this scene then I'm not interested:
 
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