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Hey @MrJokerRager, ever considered wood furniture for an AR? Just because your rifle is Calicucked doesn't mean it has to be ugly.

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They look great, problem is guns are pretty hard to buy these days other than the usual Springfields and Smith & Wessons in this shithole.

Also I hope more people just stop complying with the laws in this state lol, that is probably the only way forward for now, unless SCOTUS does a major ruling.
 
Hey @MrJokerRager, ever considered wood furniture for an AR? Just because your rifle is Calicucked doesn't mean it has to be ugly.

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Interesting, just lose the semi-pistol grip & synthetic handguard. If you're gonna do something, go all the way with it.

Earlier in the thread I posted this:
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If I had a spare AR, it's something I'd consider doing, just because.
 
If you're gonna put some wood on an AR at least do it well, this looks horrendous
That set was the first search result for "wood AR", and looked better than most everything that came after.

If I had my druthers, it'd be like this:
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but with a standard A2 furniture & in a darker, full-figured wood; and have it mounted on something like a retirement plaque, where it's not immediately obvious as being real.

Edit: After thinking on it, the only thing I'd change besides a plain A2 handguard, would be a wooden removable carry handle; so it'd be wood on all four sides.
 
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But aren't they the last pillar holding back globohomo? I mean the DNC seems to hate them so they must be the good guys.
Why the fuck are you asking me? I just said their gun rights suck, I'm not taking Russian dick up my ass just because I don't give two fucks about Ukraine.
 
I'm just mocking the weird pro-Russian worship shit that's starting to pop up.
It's a natural response to all the pro Ukrainian propaganda.

However, I will say that I've seen it for years but that's probably because I run in a lot of AK circles and a lot of Westerners have a weird affinity for shitty Russian military gear.
 
Well this is interesting, a thread on some Russian chan talking about their guns.


They do make California seem like a 2A paradise when I used google translate to understand what was being written.
a touch on the expensive side for a Turkish 870 clone shotgun, although the .366 TKM AK is unique to Russia but if we pretend it's in 7.62x39mm then it's not a bad price for it.
 
It's a natural response to all the pro Ukrainian propaganda.

However, I will say that I've seen it for years but that's probably because I run in a lot of AK circles and a lot of Westerners have a weird affinity for shitty Russian military gear.
Contrarism and all those Boomer Russian vodka with no concern for safety protocol jokes and that Georgian pothead Larper known as FPS Russia and Democrats hating on the AK platform when it comes to gun control and that meme that AKs can work in harsh conditions that US soldiers during Vietnam ditched M16s for it.
 
Contrarism and all those Boomer Russian vodka with no concern for safety protocol jokes and that Georgian pothead Larper known as FPS Russia and Democrats hating on the AK platform when it comes to gun control and that meme that AKs can work in harsh conditions that US soldiers during Vietnam ditched M16s for it.
AKs do work in harsh conditions, it's due to their much looser tolerances. Those same tolerances also make it inherently less accurate than the M16.
 
Not as easy as a simple conversion, too bad. I might have considered giving it a try just to play around (they look nice) but no reason to if I have to buy a proprietary lower.
It's "easy" in that its not really a conversion, its a whole new lower and bolt carrier. And they aint cheap. (bolt maybe sold separately?)
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I think the lower comes with a bolt carrier, but replacement proprietary carriers...
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Not sure how I feel about this silly shit:
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it's due to their much looser tolerances. Those same tolerances also make it inherently less accurate than the M16.
that's not really what's going on, and it's also not a useful truism. "clearance" is the term to describe a void or space between two surfaces, usually opposing. "tolerance" is a measured deviation or allowance from a given specification to account for inaccuracies during manufacturing and the AK-47 (the "AK"), the AKM, and the AK-74 have similar tolerances as the M16.

for example, the AKM has a fairly consistent tolerance of +/- 0.003" or 0.1mm for nearly all parts that are stamped and about half that for milled components. this is about the same as the tolerance for the M16 (which varied from 0.0015" to 0.003" depending on the component, although some major assemblies had stacking issues and were allowed to go up to 0.006" when assembled).

an in-depth comparison has been done to death by many many people, most who know the topic better than i do.

edit: what is true is that the AK and AKM is generally over-gassed, meaning the gas system has more pressure than necessary to drive the action. this helps in overcoming difficulties with temperature or debris, but also harshly drives the long stroke carrier/piston assembly which increases actual and perceived recoil. the M16, using much less recoiling mass and a more finely tuned gas system, does not do this. the M16 instead relies on user-consciousness and a relatively sealed system for reliable function in adverse conditions. even today, a "solution" for reliability problems that some people experience is to purposefully over-gas the AR-15/M16 system, or a derivative thereof (HK416 for example) instead of fine tuning it or the ammunition, or just flat out using a better system like the AR-18. over-gassing is using a bigger hammer. it'll work to drive a brad nail, but it won't be as clean or precise as a nail gun or tack hammer.
 
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AKs do work in harsh conditions, it's due to their much looser tolerances. Those same tolerances also make it inherently less accurate than the M16.
Got ninja'ed on the tolerancing part, tolerancing is what allows modern manufacturing of interchangeable parts. Loose tolerances would mean either the rifles are built by having buckets of loose parts and combining them to compensate for the min/max material condition, or every part is fitted into place by hand like in the old days.
The AK's reliability comes from the rifle essentially being gassed to the "harsh conditions setting" from the factory and not allowing the user to change it. One of the competitor rifles in the Soviet trials was a smoother shooting rifle but it choked in the torture tests.
 
Thanks guys for the education. When it comes to the manufacturing side of things, I know dick and I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.
 
AKs do work in harsh conditions, it's due to their much looser tolerances. Those same tolerances also make it inherently less accurate than the M16.
that's not really what's going on, and it's also not a useful truism. "clearance" is the term to describe a void or space between two surfaces, usually opposing. "tolerance" is a measured deviation or allowance from a given specification to account for inaccuracies during manufacturing and the AK-47 (the "AK"), the AKM, and the AK-74 have similar tolerances as the M16.

for example, the AKM has a fairly consistent tolerance of +/- 0.003" or 0.1mm for nearly all parts that are stamped and about half that for milled components. this is about the same as the tolerance for the M16 (which varied from 0.0015" to 0.003" depending on the component, although some major assemblies had stacking issues and were allowed to go up to 0.006" when assembled).

an in-depth comparison has been done to death by many many people, most who know the topic better than i do.

edit: what is true is that the AK and AKM is generally over-gassed, meaning the gas system has more pressure than necessary to drive the action. this helps in overcoming difficulties with temperature or debris, but also harshly drives the long stroke carrier/piston assembly which increases actual and perceived recoil. the M16, using much less recoiling mass and a more finely tuned gas system, does not do this. the M16 instead relies on user-consciousness and a relatively sealed system for reliable function in adverse conditions. even today, a "solution" for reliability problems that some people experience is to purposefully over-gas the AR-15/M16 system, or a derivative thereof (HK416 for example) instead of fine tuning it or the ammunition, or just flat out using a better system like the AR-18. over-gassing is using a bigger hammer. it'll work to drive a brad nail, but it won't be as clean or precise as a nail gun or tack hammer.
Got ninja'ed on the tolerancing part, tolerancing is what allows modern manufacturing of interchangeable parts. Loose tolerances would mean either the rifles are built by having buckets of loose parts and combining them to compensate for the min/max material condition, or every part is fitted into place by hand like in the old days.
The AK's reliability comes from the rifle essentially being gassed to the "harsh conditions setting" from the factory and not allowing the user to change it. One of the competitor rifles in the Soviet trials was a smoother shooting rifle but it choked in the torture tests.
Does the "AK is less accurate" meme still hold up when you control for maintenance and user training?

I recall Gun Jesus saying in one of his Q&A videos that ARs seem more accurate because they are more often used by professional armies, while AKs are used more often by militias, irregulars, etc. You'll get Zimbabweans who think moving the sights all the way up makes them shoot harder.
 
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