Mega Rad Gun Thread

[MrB]

Freedomlandia as well, but in a shit part where the big box gun stores fled hours away and the smaller shops either don't know that black powder is still a thing or don't want to sell "explosives".


Do you run true BP or pyrodex in your caplocks? It's tempting to get the pellets for quicker loading, even if people give them shit for the cleaning additive.

I have no feasible way to purchase black powder over the counter, is it worth potentially getting put on a list for having it shipped if I want a musket? Muskets are bad ass and I want one to actually use.
If pyrodex is easier to ship I can also consider a caplock, those are cool too.

Black powder shipping laws have actually loosened quite a bit in the past few decades. From all my experience buying online the only extra thing you have to contend with is a hazmat inspection fee which usually hovers around ~$50 and all of it needs to be shipped by freight. Also because of that fee most online retailers want you to buy in bulk which you should be doing anyway because of the hazmat fee.

Personally I fucking hate pyrodex but I'm an autist. IMO part of the fun of muzzleloading is taking your time with every step, loading included. From my experience any time you save with pyrodex is gained back from the extra cleaning. Plus it smells like shit for me. That being said it does run fine in caplocks and you should go for it if you have no other options.

If you do end up getting a caplock then you have to remember that caps are even harder to find than black powder right now. The only place I've ever seen them sold lately is certain box stores like Scheels but you said all the box stores around you packed up and left. Buying online requires a hazmat inspection fee again. There's kits to make your own caps out there but that's time consuming in of itself. That or you can just get fucked in the ass by scalpers on Gunbroker selling caps for 20 cents each.

As far as buying black powder online goes I buy from the Grafs website when it's in stock. Other people like Maine Powder House but it's run by some boomer woman who wants you to email her a picture of your ID for verification purposes which you may or may not be a fan of. The third big site that sells it is Buffalo Arms but I can't speak to their quality since I've never tried buying from them.

Also last year, the GOEX factory (which was the only domestic BP factory) exploded in Louisiana again and Hodgdon shut it down to sell off to another company since it wasn't worth the trouble for them. A few months back it was bought by Estes Energetics which is an aerospace company but they did promise to bring back consumer shooter black powder. That'll take a couple years though since they need to rebuild the factory. In the meantime pretty much all black powder you can buy right now will be imported from Switzerland or Germany. As a side note, GOEX for shooters was actually just leftover byproduct from the factory since their main focus was on selling to the pyrotechnics industry whereas european brands like Scheutzen and Swiss were made specifically for shooting and tend to run cleaner. Obviously it's more expensive since it has to be imported but it's all we have right now short of making your own powder in a ball mill at home.

 

[Particle Bored]

California (& every other state's) magazine restrictions potentially going to SCOTUS.

Also, something in 3d printed steel:

 

[Rent Tin]

I've been on kind of a restoration kick, it is interesting to see this guy fix up some really old firearms that were left in poor conditions.

Rusty Italian Rifle Restoration: 80 Years Hidden in a Wall

This time I'm showing you how I restored an Italian Carcano model 91/41 military rifle, that was found hidden inside a partition wall in a house being renova...

www.youtube.com

There's this comment by C&Rsenal in the comments section though, does anyone have any idea what "horror show restoration" he is referring to?

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

I've been on kind of a restoration kick, it is interesting to see this guy fix up some really old firearms that were left in poor conditions.

Rusty Italian Rifle Restoration: 80 Years Hidden in a Wall

This time I'm showing you how I restored an Italian Carcano model 91/41 military rifle, that was found hidden inside a partition wall in a house being renova...

www.youtube.com

There's this comment by C&Rsenal in the comments section though, does anyone have any idea what "horror show restoration" he is referring to?

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There's a lot of bullshit YouTube "restoration" channels that are either obviously fake (a light surface layer of fresh bright red rust, obviously fresh damage to wood, that sort of thing) or arseholes with no idea what they are doing using massively destructive methods to "restore" all the patina and history out of an antique.

There was one particular video that made my soul hurt where some cunt took a Martini-Henry, beat it into bar stock and made a shit-tier katana out of it. Disgusting.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

Turks make the oddest shotguns. Ngl, kinda want one.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6nQ0BaG92Yo

Yeah, I have one of those black aces bullpup shotguna, and its not all that bad, honestly.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

And it is a very nice shooting gun. Like, the innovation they were going for actually worked. But it was simply way too expensive for "just" a nice-shooting pistol.

Similar thing with Ian's current infatuation with the Alien. I'm certain that pistol is really nice to shoot. I'm also certain I'm never shelling out 4+ grand for it.

Or the FK BRNO, another gun that from all accounts is a wonderful shooter and the 7.5 BRNO is also supposedly really good. But the budget model is still just south of two grand.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

Or the FK BRNO, another gun that from all accounts is a wonderful shooter and the 7.5 BRNO is also supposedly really good. But the budget model is still just south of two grand.

Did anyone ever figure out what country or police agency they were originally made for or was the whole "we built it for a European military" a bunch of marketing bullshit?

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Did anyone ever figure out what country or police agency they were originally made for or was the whole "we built it for a European military" a bunch of marketing bullshit?

No idea, I honestly don't know of any European militaries that were doing pistol trials recently besides the Danes and the only pistols in their trials were the Sig P320, Beretta APX, G17, and Canik TP9. I think the Canik won those trials actually.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Hudson had a lot of constructive feedback to improve the existing design and also how to market it better. They ignored all of it and refused to change anything.

They wouldn’t sell guns to dealers or retail. They only sold to distributors. Cutting out a huge percentage of potential profit margin.

They outsourced almost everything to vendors all over the country.

They announced the H9A that was going to be lighter and cheaper than the H9 months before they were ready to sell. H9 sales fell of a cliff. H9As never got to market.

Bankruptcy followed.

$10 mil in start up money, And $6.5 mil in gross sales all gone in about 2.5 years.

 

[Dick Justice]

Not sure how I feel about this silly shit:
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thumbnail looks like a tacticool nugget lol

 

[Meat Target]

does anyone have any idea what "horror show restoration" he is referring to?

The bubba who thinks taking low-grit sandpaper, steel wool, and dish soap to an antique is "restoring" it.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Are AR-15 drum mags just a meme, or do they have any practical use?

Drum mags of all sorts are just a meme. They typically do not work with anything nearing regular usage and are poor in weight and volume.
New production AR drum mags often look good out of the gate but with time they start to fail like all the rest and hype dies off.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Or the FK BRNO, another gun that from all accounts is a wonderful shooter and the 7.5 BRNO is also supposedly really good. But the budget model is still just south of two grand.

I'd like it if it had a longer barrel.
That and if they partnered with another company to have a rifle chambered in 7.5 would have been the bee's knees.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I'd like it if it had a longer barrel.
That and if they partnered with another company to have a rifle chambered in 7.5 would have been the bee's knees.

Ooh, a carbine in 7.5 FK would definitely have me thinking about opening some space in the ol' gun safe. I normally don't go for novelty like that, but I like the cut of that cartridge's jib being fired out of a handy carbine way more than a pistol.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I'd like it if it had a longer barrel.
That and if they partnered with another company to have a rifle chambered in 7.5 would have been the bee's knees.

Ooh, a carbine in 7.5 FK would definitely have me thinking about opening some space in the ol' gun safe. I normally don't go for novelty like that, but I like the cut of that cartridge's jib being fired out of a handy carbine way more than a pistol.

I'd be on a 7.5 carbine like white on rice. Something compact with a similar form factor to a Sub2000, I don't like when PPCs put the magazine outside the pistol grip.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Drum mags of all sorts are just a meme. They typically do not work with anything nearing regular usage and are poor in weight and volume.
New production AR drum mags often look good out of the gate but with time they start to fail like all the rest and hype dies off.

For a short while I used drum magazines as currency; had a literal footlocker full when I started, and it didn't take long to get rid of them in 1-for-1 trades.

 

[Club Sandwich]

typically do not work with anything nearing regular usage

there are a handful of good designs like the MWG 90 or the Magpul D-60. even the Beta-C works surprisingly well, but they have limits and are not intended for regular use outside of a particular rifle to use them. a lot of the more common aftermarket casket and drum mags are garbage, but same are "okay". the Surefire 60 worked pretty well even if the 100 round version was trash. what a lot of users don't get is they have a maintenance schedule and are either complex (PPSh, Auto-Ord/Thompson, Beta-C) or simple (MWG 90, RPD, et c) and they are quite different from a typical box magazine.

as a first contact device that you dump after exhausting it's alright. i've used something like that before and it works fine. for regular use in place of normal mags isn't ideal at all and i think that's the mistake people make with drum mags. rather than as a specific tool, it's just "bigger mag".

 

[Uranus Pink]

No idea, I honestly don't know of any European militaries that were doing pistol trials recently besides the Danes and the only pistols in their trials were the Sig P320, Beretta APX, G17, and Canik TP9. I think the Canik won those trials actually.

With the 7.5 BRNO being a proprietary cartridge not SAAMI or C.I.P. standardized or iirc NATO EPVAT tested, no military in NATO is going to seriously touch it.

 

[DocAwe]

Hudson had a lot of constructive feedback to improve the existing design and also how to market it better. They ignored all of it and refused to change anything.

They wouldn’t sell guns to dealers or retail. They only sold to distributors. Cutting out a huge percentage of potential profit margin.

They outsourced almost everything to vendors all over the country.

They announced the H9A that was going to be lighter and cheaper than the H9 months before they were ready to sell. H9 sales fell of a cliff. H9As never got to market.

Bankruptcy followed.

$10 mil in start up money, And $6.5 mil in gross sales all gone in about 2.5 years.

Oh, what do you know about manufacturing and running a business?

 

[WhoBusTank69]

rather than as a specific tool, it's just "bigger mag".

During their conception and today, it's absolutely meant and intended to be "bigger mag" - the problem arrives when in the hands of people who want bigger mag who also do not maintain anything. Even the WWSD pair dropped the drum intended for the initial contact concept.
It's more effective to go the same route the RPK did in just having a bigger magazine, I think coffin mags/40 rounders have finally stabilized in quality.