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troon patrol said:
Anyone else notice how cheap armor plates have gotten? a 3A set is like $60. IDK what I'd want one for but, that seem stupid cheap.
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Without knowing which specific plates you may be talking about, I'll just say this:

Do your research.

1. Stay the hell away from AR-500 or other steel plates
2. Do not trust positive YouTube reviews from big name channels who's content seems to mainly consist of shilling products and promoting whatever new gimmicks/trends
3. NIJ rated is NOT NIJ certified
4. Do not trust anything manufactured in China
 
TheGreatDodongus said:
Without knowing which specific plates you may be talking about, I'll just say this:

Do your research.

1. Stay the hell away from AR-500 or other steel plates
2. Do not trust positive YouTube reviews from big name channels who's content seems to mainly consist of shilling products and promoting whatever new gimmicks/trends
3. NIJ rated is NOT NIJ certified
4. Do not trust anything manufactured in China
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Thank you for the advice, Its Tactical scorpion brand, You've got me curious , whats wrong with AR500?

copy pasted from the manufacturer:

** This model complies with NIJ Standard-0101.06 for Ballistic Resistance of Body Armor.**

NIJ tested Level IIIA Armor will defeat 5 pistol round shots up to .44 magnum @ 1474 ft/s @ 17.3 FT.
 
troon patrol said:
whats wrong with AR500?
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Lets say for whatever reason, you're wearing your larp gear and you're taking fire. Ok, you get unlucky and someone hits you, but you get hit in the plate. Still unlucky. Why? Because the bullet chips just spalled upwards into your throat, sideways into your arms, and downwards into everything else.

Congratulations, you're dead!

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Ceramic plates are designed to "catch" the bullet so it doesn't penetrate. Steel deflects it and bullet chips when it hits.
 
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troon patrol said:
Thank you for the advice, Its Tactical scorpion brand, You've got me curious , whats wrong with AR500?

copy pasted from the manufacturer:

** This model complies with NIJ Standard-0101.06 for Ballistic Resistance of Body Armor.**

NIJ tested Level IIIA Armor will defeat 5 pistol round shots up to .44 magnum @ 1474 ft/s @ 17.3 FT.
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Plates are Chinese, stay away
Oh man, Tactical Scorpion Gear (East West Consolidated LLC) this ones an interesting one.
They import their ceramics and PE from China, and they appear to assemble it here.
If you look on their website, under testing reports, they have their NIJ shoot test results posted.
Mind you, this is just a single shoot test, the full certification involves dozens of plates, drop tests, temperature tests, etc.
If you look for the backface deformation reading (usually labeled BF, BFS, BFD) you will see many of their plates actually EXCEED the NIJ maximum of 44mm. I think one of their models was up to 52mm.
Many of their plates were exhibiting backface deformation readings synonymous with large caliber hunting rifle rounds, simply from 5.56.

Full disclosure, I am a vendor so I work in the industry. Theres a lot of things about the armor industry I really dislike. So don't see this as simply attacking a competitor, I believe in transparency.
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Club Sandwich said:
a lever action .303 with 150gr round nose might be a pretty fun thing if it's a wood brass and steel martini henry/ruger no1 abomination that actually works... might have to scrounge around for parts

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If you do this make me one please, I'll take your good faith and send a blank check. I have a sad 303 fetish.

I don't even have reloading gear but I LOVE my Krag its so weird (my alley) hits deer fine. mines 30-40 krag. And a true carbine.
 
TheGreatDodongus said:
Without knowing which specific plates you may be talking about, I'll just say this:

Do your research.

1. Stay the hell away from AR-500 or other steel plates
2. Do not trust positive YouTube reviews from big name channels who's content seems to mainly consist of shilling products and promoting whatever new gimmicks/trends
3. NIJ rated is NOT NIJ certified
4. Do not trust anything manufactured in China
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100% agree, I'll say the ONE YT person who kinda shills but who I still trust is Mrgunsngear as he actually shoots helmets and vests to failure
 
TheGreatDodongus said:
Without knowing which specific plates you may be talking about, I'll just say this:

Do your research.

1. Stay the hell away from AR-500 or other steel plates
2. Do not trust positive YouTube reviews from big name channels who's content seems to mainly consist of shilling products and promoting whatever new gimmicks/trends
3. NIJ rated is NOT NIJ certified
4. Do not trust anything manufactured in China
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Bulletproof Me is who I point people toward. They have good customer service and are really good about answering questions.

I'm looking at their Level IV lightweight ceramic plates.
 
I'm in that AR building phase where all of the parts you ordered are in various stages of being delivered and it sucks. Test-installed the CMC 2.5# trigger that's going in the new gun in one of my other rifles and I'm very happy with the feel and break - if it can reliably set off primers, it's gonna be a winner.
 
MrB said:
Since we’re on the topic of British guns and lever actions, does anyone else remember this custom job someone made a couple years back? 44 mag belt fed bullpup lever action since bongs don’t have any magazine limit laws.
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This is looks like what a video game designer who has never seen a real gun before would come up with.

Anyway for me I'm in the process of making a 5.56 Krinkov. It's AK heresy but I was never interested in getting into 5.45 when most every other rifle I have is 5.56 or 7.62. Basically just taking an Arsenal SLR-106UR, then cutting the barrel. Got a triangle stock on it and some Krink wood on order from Combloc Customs.
 
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FamicomGorby said:
This is looks like what a video game designer who has never seen a real gun before would come up with.

Anyway for me I'm in the process of making a 5.56 Krinkov. It's AK heresy but I was never interested in getting into 5.45 when most every other rifle I have is 5.56 or 7.62. Basically just taking an Arsenal SLR-106UR, then cutting the barrel. Got a triangle stock on it and some Krink wood on order from Combloc Customs.
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How is that heresy? People have been doing it for years.

Although it'd have probably just been cheaper for you to get a M85 and get a stock put on. Krinkov also is just made up terminology, the Russians never called them that.
 
White Devil said:
How is that heresy? People have been doing it for years.

Although it'd have probably just been cheaper for you to get a M85 and get a stock put on. Krinkov also is just made up terminology, the Russians never called them that.
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Eh, to some people if it's not a commie caliber then it's heresy. Probably more so in the days before the Russian ammo ban.

Also don't be that fuckin guy ,"AKCHKTUALLY, Krinkov isn't an official term, it's AKS-74U".

I did consider getting a pistol to convert but the issue with those is you have to cut into the receiver to add the locking latch at the front trunnion for the stock and the release button at the rear trunnion. So really if you're modifying an existing one it's just deciding which job you wanna do.

Now sure ya could get one of those drop in folding stocks but I wanted a proper folding stock on mine.
 
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