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Federal Syntech ammo, specifically for range use? Is it actually worth it to reduce wear on your gun
syntech has been around for decades (since the 90's at least) and is meant to reduce copper fouling and provide leading reduction since it completely encapsulates a bullet, unlike more typical jackets. it has no significant wear reduction properties i'm aware of vs simpler lead alloy, although since it's not a metal (gliding or otherwise) it doesn't cause heat build up in the few SMGs i've used with it for function testing. the old name of it was "nyclad" and originated as a nylon replacement for soft lead alloy bullets that was cheaper and easier to make than copper jacketed rounds while also not being as dirty as unalloyed lead. S&W i think advertised it to LEO still carrying .357 back then and i might have a box somewhere of the stuff. it's was mediocre in performance but was admittedly a fairly clean ammo.
 
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You can't control a man's mind! Just watch as they ban aluminum sales to people next.

WASHINGTON – The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued an open letter today to all federal firearms licensees regarding the application of Final Rule 2021-05F, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, on partially complete Polymer80, Lone Wolf, and similar semiautomatic pistol frames.

In April 2022, the Department of Justice announced a new “Frame or Receiver” final rule, which modernizes the definition of a firearm. The final rule, which went into effect in August 2022, clarifies that parts kits that are readily convertible to firearms are subject to the same regulations as firearms made by a federal firearms licensed manufacturer.

Today’s open letter clarifies to the firearm industry and the public how the August 2022 final rule addresses partially complete, disassembled or nonfunctional semiautomatic striker-fired pistol frames or parts kits manufactured, sold or distributed by Polymer80, Lone Wolf and others.

Partially complete Polymer80, Lone Wolf, and similar striker-fired semiautomatic pistol frames, including, but not limited to, those sold within parts kits, are regulated by the Gun Control Act (GCA) because they have reached a stage of manufacture where they “may readily be completed, assembled, restored, or otherwise converted” to a functional frame.

This definition of “readily” applies to each classification of a partially complete frame or receiver under this rule, whether sold alone or as part of a kit; therefore, even without any associated templates, jigs, molds, equipment, tools, instructions, guides, or marketing materials, these partially complete pistol frames are “frames” and “firearms” as defined in the GCA and its implementing regulations.

“Today’s open letter is another important step in implementing the crucial public safety rule regarding privately made firearms, or Ghost Guns,” said ATF Director Steven Dettelbach. “The partially completed pistol frames described in this open letter are readily convertible to functioning firearms under the Gun Control Act. Ghost Guns can kill like other firearms if they are in the wrong hands, so they are treated as firearms under the law. This means that they must have serial numbers so that law enforcement can trace if they are used in crimes like other guns, and also that those engaged in the business of selling them must be licensed dealers and run background checks.”

If anyone remains unclear about a specific model or configuration, they may submit a request with a sample to ATF, who can only render a formal determination upon receipt of a formal request and physically examining a submitted sample.

ATF regulates the firearm industry and is the lead federal law enforcement agency with jurisdiction involving firearms and violent crimes. More information about ATF and its programs is available at www.atf.gov.
 
You know, it never ceases to amuse me how they decided on "ghost gun" because the people freaking out in government thought people were printing functional guns out of all plastic, and thus would be undetectable going through most security measures (at least in their brains, never mind that the ammo would still show up).

When it turns out this was literally a fantasy since the only all plastic guns were .22 at best and one pretty inaccurate shot deals at most, they just went "uuuuuuuuuh HOMEMADE GUUUUNS ARE GHOST GUNS! OOOoooOOO! WooooOOOOoo!
 
Every time I try to broaden my horizons Ruger pulls me back. 😍
If you do get it let me know how it handles. I have a few Rugers and so far they've been good to me.
Will do man! The Security 380 interests me in that it's 15 rounds of 380 in a fairly big gun for the round. It's on the short list for my first semi auto pistol, right there with a SD40VE for my 40 cal fix, though with my new Milwaukee grinder I just bought for work and all it's accessories, and the fallout from Christmas, that won't be happening for a while lol.

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I shot a 380 a long time ago, it felt fine, and by energy alone it's basically 38 special, just light and fast with a tiny less power in exchange for rapid fire. Is this a fair assessment? Also what are good loads for it?
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So I got a masada, and it's fukken rad with a holosun 507c, but I'd like the trigger to be just a little bit lighter. Is it possible for me to polish it a bit like people do with glocks, and or, could I have a gunsmith give it a look over and maybe work on it? There's still no aftermarket triggers for these guns, but I can't quite put my finger on why I love it so much. Say what you will about Israel, but their guns have a certain charm.
 
Will do man! The Security 380 interests me in that it's 15 rounds of 380 in a fairly big gun for the round. It's on the short list for my first semi auto pistol, right there with a SD40VE for my 40 cal fix, though with my new Milwaukee grinder I just bought for work and all it's accessories, and the fallout from Christmas, that won't be happening for a while lol.

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I shot a 380 a long time ago, it felt fine, and by energy alone it's basically 38 special, just light and fast with a tiny less power in exchange for rapid fire. Is this a fair assessment? Also what are good loads for it?
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I feel you. Christmas is the best time of year but also the worst. You have the excuse to buy gifts (for yourself) but the price adds up fast. haha
One of the Rugers I have is the LC380. It's light and compact which is perfect for summer carry. When I carry I go with Sig ammo and Winchester ammo for range time. It was a pain in the ass to find rounds around the pandemic, at least near me, but thats pretty much cleared now. It's easy to take down and clean (a hell of a lot easier than my Mark IV).
Ruger hasn't been bad but I could just be getting lucky. I also use it for range games like battleship.
 
Windham weaponry
old Bushmaster - well worth the money.
guy behind it is very reputable but I can't remember his last company
Richard Dyke, formerly Bushmaster Defense COO, and before Remington bought Bushmaster he was Bushmaster Inc's CEO and Founder. he was the guy that famously told Bill Ruger off for his "only 10 round" thing and purposely built weird blind magazine receivers and marked "10 round .50 Beowolf" on AR mag baseplates and stuff to get around anti gun laws.
 
Can’t speak to modern stuff.
Fucking rough. It truly got inexcusably shitty by the 2010s, but already in the 1990s people complained about the 870 Action Express having hangups and rust issues, or the 700 having its bolt handle poorly brazed on, hence the trend of having those staked, as rough enough handling really could make them come off on many examples. 90s Remington stuff could be decent still, barring you looked out for problems like those or kept in mind to fix/prevent it.
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In more modern times, I've once seen an 870 Action Express where the fitment of the pump-slide was so shit that you couldn't open the action all the way, because it was crooked and the handguard ran into the taper of the barrel, and I have a memory of an anon on /k/ describing a Wingmaster him or his dad won in a raffle which had the same problem, requiring that you mortar the action to get it all the way back. He ground away material on the handguard to let it clear the barrel so he could disassemble it, then emptying the receiver of loose steel shavings which had made the already rough action grittier than Deer Hunter, after picking a particularly sharp one out of his fingertip, he proceeded to put a lot of polish into the gun to get it properly working.

Then there's the lawsuit about the Remington 700s safety, if you're gonna pay attention to any part of this post, make it this. As it turns out, the trigger mechanism can, if set up or manufactured incorrectly, be made to sometimes trip the sear when the safety is manipulated. This would first manifest in the early 2000s where a woman was unloading her rifle after coming home from hunting, where her young son was on the other side of the wall by pure coincidence as the safety made the rifle fire, killing him. Remington settles this in the resulting court case.
Later, as quality control gets more awful, more triggers are built wrong, and more incidents happen, like a man putting his rifle in the backseat of his car, where a phone charging cable then brushes up against the safety and fires it, killing his young daughter. There's a lot more, like a man who shot off his foot because of the defective trigger, but you get the point.
As it turns out, this is something Remington was aware of could happen as far back as 1948, but they never told anyone, and when the company got shitty and put less money into skilled labor and quality control to the point that it actually became a problem, they were apparently fine with not telling anyone by then either, or issuing any kind of recall.

The 700 situation obviously leads to lawsuits of cyclopean proportions, beyond the death and personal injury suits you then get the settlements, where thousands upon thousands of people file claims because they can demonstrate that their rifles are indeed deathtraps. In spite of Remington actually taking in god knows how many rifles, people get them back and they still have the same problem, meaning they either didn't actually do anything, or they did but fucked it up anyway, and I really don't know which of those two possibilities are worse.
I would assume that any 700s from the early 90s or before are safe, as there wasn't this rash of surprise amputations, or surprise post-term abortions, but I'd make sure to check any rifle just to be sure, and to assume it's distinctly possible with any rifle made in the past 20ish years. Seeking out an aftermarket trigger seems about as vital to me as addressing the weak bolt handle on 21st century Remington 700s, remember, this is a problem that is common enough that numerous people have been killed and injured, and many people detect that their rifle still had this problem in spite of warranty work enforced by court order.

I would say that this was probably the primary reason they went out of business the last time.

And here I thought all my old ammo from big green had gotten moist or something, so I stopped using it; that stuff made smokepole-tier clouds, especially the .22, but my hoarding autism never let me get rid of it.
Their centerfire stuff I think is passable in spite of not exactly being deluxe, smoky, but it'll certainly do for practice and recreation, and the brass is perfectly reusable for better results if you reload. Their rimfire ammo is subpar, but it's workable for manual actions like revolvers and repeaters, so you might as well plink the stuff up to make space for other things anyway. Maybe look at something like a Ruger Wrangler or that Diamondback Sidekick if you want an inexpensive wheelgun you won't feel bad for putting lots of bleh ammo through, their cowboy styling might make the smoke clouds feel less shitty.

the old name of it was "nyclad" and originated as a nylon replacement for soft lead alloy bullets that was cheaper and easier to make than copper jacketed rounds while also not being as dirty as unalloyed lead. S&W i think advertised it to LEO still carrying .357 back then and i might have a box somewhere of the stuff. it's was mediocre in performance but was admittedly a fairly clean ammo.
Oh, so they rebranded that stuff under that name? The exact details are fuzzy to me, but I think it was mostly intended as a better target ammo under Smith & Wesson (they did hollowpoints, but most of what I've seen was roundnose ball, wadcutters, and then primarily semi-wadcutters), after retiring it they sold it to Federal, who wanted to develop it into defensive ammo. Federal's approach was to make it a lot softer, softer than most soft lead bullets around, the goal being to let you get good expansion even out of a short 2" barrel in a gun not rated for +P loads.
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This actually 'worked,' but not in the way people liked, because in exchange for good expansion, you lost a LOT of penetration, hence they made the alloy a little harder to try to offset this, but Federal discontinued it anyway after finding it wasn't profitable enough.
Through hearsay this got twisted into them being super bullets, which deformed and fragmented so much that it made forensic ballistics much more difficult, and that political pressure was then put on Federal to change the round (or that it was supposedly banned), which is the kind of mythical quality that boomer fudds tend to ascribe to weird and collectible ammo which in reality wasn't actually that good.

I've seen Syntech, but I'll have to assume that it's not loaded super soft in an attempt to try to get that effect.
Anyone have experience with Windham weaponry?
A bit, was very nice and I want one.

He was the guy that famously told Bill Ruger off for his "only 10 round" thing and purposely built weird blind magazine receivers and marked "10 round .50 Beowolf" on AR mag baseplates and stuff to get around anti gun laws.
I knew the background of Windham, but I didn't know that story, makes me think of Ronnie Barrett.
 
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I shot a 380 a long time ago, it felt fine, and by energy alone it's basically 38 special, just light and fast with a tiny less power in exchange for rapid fire. Is this a fair assessment? Also what are good loads for it?
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Save your money & skip those particular Hornady pills; Paul Harrell did a patented meat-target test & found them to expand extremely poorly & overpenetrate, even from tiny barrels. His result has been replicated enough times, yet I still see a box sold with every new .380.

Gimmicky though it is, we prefer the Civil Defense 50gr, 1500fps flavor for .380. My wife likes it because they kick less nasty, which makes hitting things a lot easier; and the overall weight difference from standard ammo is noticable when loaded into a pocket micro. They also penetrate better than stuff like G2 RIP.... or at least the base of the rounds do.

For a "standard" .380 though, I'll take something like Speer Gold Dot or Lehigh XD (or cavitator if I can find it).

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I don't bother with Buffalo Bore .380 either, unless it's for a pistol with enough weight/strength to handle that much ass, like a CZ-83.
 
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Richard Dyke, formerly Bushmaster Defense COO, and before Remington bought Bushmaster he was Bushmaster Inc's CEO and Founder. he was the guy that famously told Bill Ruger off for his "only 10 round" thing and purposely built weird blind magazine receivers and marked "10 round .50 Beowolf" on AR mag baseplates and stuff to get around anti gun laws.
Do you happen to remember any details on the bold part? My google fu is failing on the bold in particular, but if this was a somewhat hush hush thing for him to be doing at the time that might be why.

I know that particular legal loophole for magazines was something people on Calguns were talking about not-so-quietly since 2007 and possibly earlier (hell, I experimented a bit with chemical etching with the idea of selling such mags), so my ears perk up when I hear about names like the former head cheese of Bushmaster doing based shit like that; it gets me curious about the timeline.
 
Do you happen to remember any details on the bold part?
.50 beowulf and .458 SOCOM were around as big boy cartridges for AR-15 uppers in 2002, and bushmaster supplied an upper and accessories to convert existing XM-15E and E2S rifles to it as an OEM for Alexander Arms. much later in 2007 they wanted to get into the game with their .450 Bushmaster cartridge (to use existing tools) and have a "hog killer" with flatter trajectory than either of the older cartridges.

for "BM" marked magazines in 2002-2004, bushmaster also stamped "10 rounds, .50 beowulf" on aftermarket magazines for this conversion kit because other than the follower, they were 100% identical to a 30 round AR-15 magazine. this was 5 more rounds than the original magazines from Alexander Arms (7 rounds later on in 2003-onward with a little shorty curved magazine). since it's only a baseplate and follower change away from standard capacity AR-15 magazines, they were often also stamped on the side for visibility too. after 2004 alexander arms took over all primary manufacturing other than small parts and bushmaster was already tinkering with their .450 bushmaster project based on experiences with working with alexander arms.

since these 10 round hunting magazines for a hunting cartridge in a hunting rifle, these could be bought over the counter in ban states for a long time, and in theory still can be. to help comply with stronger enforcement, an extremely durable aluminum pop rivet was added to the rear to prevent the base plate from being casually removed.
 
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.50 beowulf and .458 SOCOM were around as big boy cartridges for AR-15 uppers in 2002, and bushmaster supplied an upper and accessories to convert existing XM-15E and E2S rifles to it as an OEM for Alexander Arms. much later in 2007 they wanted to get into the game with their .450 Bushmaster cartridge (to use existing tools) and have a "hog killer" with flatter trajectory than either of the older cartridges.

for "BM" marked magazines in 2002-2004, bushmaster also stamped "10 rounds, .50 beowulf" on aftermarket magazines for this conversion kit because other than the follower, they were 100% identical to a 30 round AR-15 magazine. this was 5 more rounds than the original magazines from Alexander Arms (7 rounds later on in 2003-onward with a little shorty curved magazine). since it's only a baseplate and follower change away from standard capacity AR-15 magazines, they were often also stamped on the side for visibility too. after 2004 alexander arms took over all primary manufacturing other than small parts and bushmaster was already tinkering with their .450 bushmaster project based on experiences with working with alexander arms.

since these 10 round hunting magazines for a hunting cartridge in a hunting rifle, these could be bought over the counter in ban states for a long time, and in theory still can be.
Absolutely based. When I finally get around to getting a AR, I'm leaning towards something in the 350 legend-450 bushmaster range, leaningmore towards 350 just due to cost. I'm proud to see that even during the ban days, they were using the hog hunter rounds to get around the AWB bullshit. Just glad they didn't get their asses WACO'd.
 
Absolutely based. When I finally get around to getting a AR, I'm leaning towards something in the 350 legend-450 bushmaster range, leaningmore towards 350 just due to cost. I'm proud to see that even during the ban days, they were using the hog hunter rounds to get around the AWB bullshit. Just glad they didn't get their asses WACO'd.

What's the designated purpose of the rifle you plan getting?
 
.50 beowulf and .458 SOCOM were around as big boy cartridges for AR-15 uppers in 2002, and bushmaster supplied an upper and accessories to convert existing XM-15E and E2S rifles to it as an OEM for Alexander Arms. much later in 2007 they wanted to get into the game with their .450 Bushmaster cartridge (to use existing tools) and have a "hog killer" with flatter trajectory than either of the older cartridges.

for "BM" marked magazines in 2002-2004, bushmaster also stamped "10 rounds, .50 beowulf" on aftermarket magazines for this conversion kit because other than the follower, they were 100% identical to a 30 round AR-15 magazine. this was 5 more rounds than the original magazines from Alexander Arms (7 rounds later on in 2003-onward with a little shorty curved magazine). since it's only a baseplate and follower change away from standard capacity AR-15 magazines, they were often also stamped on the side for visibility too. after 2004 alexander arms took over all primary manufacturing other than small parts and bushmaster was already tinkering with their .450 bushmaster project based on experiences with working with alexander arms.

since these 10 round hunting magazines for a hunting cartridge in a hunting rifle, these could be bought over the counter in ban states for a long time, and in theory still can be. to help comply with stronger enforcement, an extremely durable aluminum pop rivet was added to the rear to prevent the base plate from being casually removed.
Interesting, I wasn't aware of the bit pre-Alexander Arms, so thanks for laying out the complete story on that one. :)

I got into the gun scene right around the time Alexander took over as the primary for .50 Beo so the discussion I remember was about the "10 round" magazine Alexander was selling that looked remarkably like a standard USGI mag, right down to the bog standard USGI green followers, but were stamped .50 Beowulf on the floorplate.
 
It's a ways off, but a thumper. Just as good at deer as at home defense, range be dammed. that and I like the 350 concept, 9mm pistol projectiles pushed to their absolute limits.
I've got a 350 Legend AR rifle I use for as a ranch rifle. I love it cause its got about as much recoil as 300 BLK with a whole lot more energy. I know that I can confidently use it on anything that comes round the farm in my area. I also enjoy being able to slap a 9mm suppressor on it. One thing to note is that it has the same head dimensions as 223 REM and if you have an AR-15 you only need a new barrel. I would recommend getting at least a new upper so you can easily switch from one to the other.
 
I've got a 350 Legend AR rifle I use for as a ranch rifle. I love it cause its got about as much recoil as 300 BLK with a whole lot more energy. I know that I can confidently use it on anything that comes round the farm in my area. I also enjoy being able to slap a 9mm suppressor on it. One thing to note is that it has the same head dimensions as 223 REM and if you have an AR-15 you only need a new barrel. I would recommend getting at least a new upper so you can easily switch from one to the other.
Exactly the reason I want it..300 Blackout is too much of a meme/ pricy for my taste, especially when I've invested quite a bit into my SKS, so if I'm going to introduce another caliber, might as well go bigger and beefier and with the capability for a high round count (the most Bubba I'll go with my SKS is duct taping a light on). That and as you said, I can easily swap barrels, so even if I buy a stock 5.56, I can convert it easy enough.
 
Would like something like a Mini-14 in .350 Legend, like some sort of roided out M1 Carbine, but Ruger won't make it (especially not with a bayonet lug), and they're charging out of the goddamn ass for Mini-14s these days. They used to be like, half of what they go for now, I'm not sure what changed there.
 
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