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Club Sandwich said:
124gr (or close enough) 7.62x39 soft point is great for mule deer with an SKS or Mini-30. my friend has bagged a dozen plus over the years hunting around the cascades with it. 150 meter zero will do you fine on a 16" barrel. 250 meters is also doable but a humane shot might be much harder to pull off, and blood trails aren't fun for ether end of a hunting rifle.
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With my SKS's 20 inch barrel, it's definitely doable to hit out to 250 yards, but past that I'm reaching my limits with the irons, and I'm switching to something like Hornady Black to ensure expansion.
 
PPU also makes soft points in 7.62 x39 for hunting in the original 123gr. I'll be using mine in a Ruger American chambered in that caliber.

Their ammo is usually a little more economically friendly if you're on a budget.
 
WhatInTheActualFuck said:
@Club Sandwich covered the high points. RS is in business, but supply/demand is so crazy, they're always OoS - I know mostly because I have a Century RH-10 (pretty much your M-10, but with worse QC) that has the same goofy high rail. If you're just looking to mount a red dot or reflex sight, you've got other options - multiple gas tube/UHG rails (Ultimak, etc.) are out there and Attero Arms makes a series of mounts that replace the rear sight leaf while retaining a fixed notch that will lower cowitness with a low-mount RDS. If you want something magnified, I'd hold out for the RS Regulate stuff.
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For non Yugo AKs;


 
Oliveoil said:
Raven?
Lorcin?
Is that a different lolcow?
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Cheap and chintzy little potmetal pistols which are dubious in safety, likes to spontaneously break, and usually will not behave with a fully loaded magazine. Think a little like a tiny Hi-Point but if it had no redeeming qualities and if it was desperately dangerous to carry with a loaded chamber.
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The same design has been going between Jennings, Bryco, Lorcin, Jimenez, etc, dating back to the original Raven Arms, Lorcin and Bryco offered slightly larger ones in .380 and 9mm, which are just as junk as the other ones.
A number of people were injured, paralyzed, and killed thanks to defective safeties on Raven Arms pistols back in their days, and I believe the owner of Jimenez actually got a prison sentence for being caught with child pornograpy, which I think should illustrate what kind of people make up this little 'empire', this is all some kind of family or semi-family kind of thing apparently.
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A few other pistols get tossed into the "Ring Of Fire" moniker, like the AMT Backup, and the Phoenix Arms HP pistols, but AMT has no connection to these circles beyond being from California and being some manner of shoddy, the Raven derived pistols are all made with zinc alloy frames and slides, while AMT had an obsession with stainless steel and used that for all their guns. Phoenix Arms might have sold a pistol based on the old Raven Arms design at some point, but the HP22 and HP25 pistols seem very different, and I've been told they're actually alright for a poorfag mousegun. Not by anyone reliable, mind.
Smoke Manmuscle said:
So Remington announced their answer to .350 Legend.
Meet .360 Buckhammer
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Winchester has a good head start on them, and if the goal is lever-action rifles, Winchester's cartridge would adapt easier to something like the Henry Long Ranger. I feel that if Remington had maybe done a .40 caliber rifle cartridge (rimmed or not) which could fit inbetween the .350 Legend and .450 Bushmaster, it would actually stand out more in application and name.
Call it the .400 Buck Breaker.
 
HumptiDouji said:
Cheap and chintzy little potmetal pistols which are dubious in safety, likes to spontaneously break, and usually will not behave with a fully loaded magazine. Think a little like a tiny Hi-Point but if it had no redeeming qualities and if it was desperately dangerous to carry with a loaded chamber.
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The same design has been going between Jennings, Bryco, Lorcin, Jimenez, etc, dating back to the original Raven Arms, Lorcin and Bryco offered slightly larger ones in .380 and 9mm, which are just as junk as the other ones.
A number of people were injured, paralyzed, and killed thanks to defective safeties on Raven Arms pistols back in their days, and I believe the owner of Jimenez actually got a prison sentence for being caught with child pornograpy, which I think should illustrate what kind of people make up this little 'empire', this is all some kind of family or semi-family kind of thing apparently.
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A few other pistols get tossed into the "Ring Of Fire" moniker, like the AMT Backup, and the Phoenix Arms HP pistols, but AMT has no connection to these circles beyond being from California and being some manner of shoddy, the Raven derived pistols are all made with zinc alloy frames and slides, while AMT had an obsession with stainless steel and used that for all their guns. Phoenix Arms might have sold a pistol based on the old Raven Arms design at some point, but the HP22 and HP25 pistols seem very different, and I've been told they're actually alright for a poorfag mousegun. Not by anyone reliable, mind.

Winchester has a good head start on them, and if the goal is lever-action rifles, Winchester's cartridge would adapt easier to something like the Henry Long Ranger. I feel that if Remington had maybe done a .40 caliber rifle cartridge (rimmed or not) which could fit inbetween the .350 Legend and .450 Bushmaster, it would actually stand out more in application and name.
Call it the .400 Buck Breaker.
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First off thanks for fully explaining what ring of fire means, thinking of a gun worse than a hi point makes me shudder.


Onto .360 Buckhammer. Here's the energy and velocity for both 180 and 200 grain: https://www.remington.com/360buckhammer/360buckhammer-ballistics.html#energy200gr

On both it starts out hitting hard at 0 yards, loses some steam at 100, and 200 a lot of steam is gone. In other words, it's a lever gun round, a heavier 30-30. Personally as a guy that has a lever gun on the wish list (still waiting on Marlin to make Model 336 in 30-30 again), I'd give it a try, but I'm a weirdo that think rims are cool. It seems aimed at the straight walled cartridge hunting states.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
First off thanks for fully explaining what ring of fire means, thinking of a gun worse than a hi point makes me shudder.
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A used Hi-Point is about the best poorfag pistol in existence. Used doesn't sound good, especially for the low budget Jiggaboo Special, but consider that Hi-Point's warranty is almost infinite, thus you can send in a used and ratty one that's been mistreated, and they'll send you a brand new one as a replacement for free, doesn't matter if you're not the original owner or something retarded happened to it. Legend has it Boof ran one through a bandsaw once and got it replaced, but he's a jokester so I'm not sure if I believe that.
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It's rough, ugly, and clunky, but there's no other widely available 9mm/.40/.45 pistol in these price ranges which will actually keep itself together and consistently cycle, while also being safe. The best description I've ever heard of the Hi-Point is that it's the worst pistol you can recommend someone in good conscience.

WelperHelper99 said:
(still waiting on Marlin to make Model 336 in 30-30 again),
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Used old Marlins and Winchesters in decent condition aren't too hard to find for reasonable prices.

WelperHelper99 said:
It seems aimed at the straight walled cartridge hunting states.
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As skeptical as I was, if this cartridge becomes available in the old fashioned lever-action rifles, I can see it catching on and actually sticking in those states for guys who want a substitute for .30-30 Winchester.
I imagine it'll be a tougher sell outside of those places, because there's nobody telling you no if you want .30-30, but if you want a light thumper which isn't in an 1890s era gun, or you just want your AR15 to shoot like an old Krag Jorgensen, .350 Legend seems more widely appealing.
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I now remembered this "COMPMAG" which you were meant to fix into your AR15 to make it California compliant, which had a loading door so you didn't have to hinge the receiver open to reload, and I get this delightful idea of a .350 Legend rifle with a Fightlite lower and this kind of mag to have some sort of hideous mutant Auto-Krag from the future.
Man, if I won a million dollars I would squander most of it in a fucking hurry on retarded shit like this.
 
HumptiDouji said:
A used Hi-Point is about the best poorfag pistol in existence. Used doesn't sound good, especially for the low budget Jiggaboo Special, but consider that Hi-Point's warranty is almost infinite, thus you can send in a used and ratty one that's been mistreated, and they'll send you a brand new one as a replacement for free, doesn't matter if you're not the original owner or something retarded happened to it. Legend has it Boof ran one through a bandsaw once and got it replaced, but he's a jokester so I'm not sure if I believe that.
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It's rough, ugly, and clunky, but there's no other widely available 9mm/.40/.45 pistol in these price ranges which will actually keep itself together and consistently cycle, while also being safe. The best description I've ever heard of the Hi-Point is that it's the worst pistol you can recommend someone in good conscience.


Used old Marlins and Winchesters in decent condition aren't too hard to find for reasonable prices.


As skeptical as I was, if this cartridge becomes available in the old fashioned lever-action rifles, I can see it catching on and actually sticking in those states for guys who want a substitute for .30-30 Winchester.
I imagine it'll be a tougher sell outside of those places, because there's nobody telling you no if you want .30-30, but if you want a light thumper which isn't in an 1890s era gun, or you just want your AR15 to shoot like an old Krag Jorgensen, .350 Legend seems more widely appealing.
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I now remembered this "COMPMAG" which you were meant to fix into your AR15 to make it California compliant, which had a loading door so you didn't have to hinge the receiver open to reload, and I get this delightful idea of a .350 Legend rifle with a Fightlite lower and this kind of mag to have some sort of hideous mutant Auto-Krag from the future.
Man, if I won a million dollars I would squander most of it in a fucking hurry on retarded shit like this.
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That's nice to know that the used market for lever guns are still somewhat cheap. I might have my 30-30 yet. Still, with the 360, I could see people-like me- buying it because it's different. It wouldn't be a lot of sales, but I could see some regular hunters using it. Also that 350 legend idea is some Fallout shit and I love it.
 
HumptiDouji said:
A used Hi-Point is about the best poorfag pistol in existence. Used doesn't sound good, especially for the low budget Jiggaboo Special, but consider that Hi-Point's warranty is almost infinite, thus you can send in a used and ratty one that's been mistreated, and they'll send you a brand new one as a replacement for free, doesn't matter if you're not the original owner or something retarded happened to it. Legend has it Boof ran one through a bandsaw once and got it replaced, but he's a jokester so I'm not sure if I believe that.
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It's rough, ugly, and clunky, but there's no other widely available 9mm/.40/.45 pistol in these price ranges which will actually keep itself together and consistently cycle, while also being safe. The best description I've ever heard of the Hi-Point is that it's the worst pistol you can recommend someone in good conscience.


Used old Marlins and Winchesters in decent condition aren't too hard to find for reasonable prices.


As skeptical as I was, if this cartridge becomes available in the old fashioned lever-action rifles, I can see it catching on and actually sticking in those states for guys who want a substitute for .30-30 Winchester.
I imagine it'll be a tougher sell outside of those places, because there's nobody telling you no if you want .30-30, but if you want a light thumper which isn't in an 1890s era gun, or you just want your AR15 to shoot like an old Krag Jorgensen, .350 Legend seems more widely appealing.
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I now remembered this "COMPMAG" which you were meant to fix into your AR15 to make it California compliant, which had a loading door so you didn't have to hinge the receiver open to reload, and I get this delightful idea of a .350 Legend rifle with a Fightlite lower and this kind of mag to have some sort of hideous mutant Auto-Krag from the future.
Man, if I won a million dollars I would squander most of it in a fucking hurry on retarded shit like this.


Onto .360 Buckhammer. Here's the energy and velocity for both 180 and 200 grain: https://www.remington.com/360buckhammer/360buckhammer-ballistics.html#energy200gr

On both it starts out hitting hard at 0 yards, loses some steam at 100, and 200 a lot of steam is gone. In other words, it's a lever gun round, a heavier 30-30. Personally as a guy that has a lever gun on the wish list (still waiting on Marlin to make Model 336 in 30-30 again), I'd give it a try, but I'm a weirdo that think rims are cool. It seems aimed at the straight walled cartridge hunting states.
Now onto something completely different: have you guys tried gear from Banded Waterfowl? https://gritroutdoors.com/banded/ Local store has some and I'm looking to pickup some new stuff for next duck season.
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Wait, Hi-Point actually does that? Sounds like it could be abused as hell
I'm pretty sure there are some cheapo ATI pistols, even tho probably not as cheap as H-P.
Regarding buckmaster - it's definitely gonna be a tough sell. But some people might try it 'cause it's the "new thing". Depends on how much it's going to be CPR I'd say(I'd definitely give it a try if my local range going to have it).
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
Guns turned in during an amnesty in Norway:
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Sad, they're probably smelted by now; except for maybe that C-96 & Lugers, which will probably end up as "retirement gifts" for the brass in charge.

But what is that vertical rifle?
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Gonna second that as a Kammerlader. You pivot up the chamber block with the lever so you can load and cap it, and then you close it. Presumably a Norwegian one, but the Swedes next door also had them. Highly sophisticated military rifle for the 1850s, lots of clever design elements.
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I can also see a Remington Rolling Block rifle, some Krag Jorgensens, a Mauser K98k or one of the really similar ones, a Remington Nylon 66, a pair of 1911s, at least one which is a 1914 Kongsberg one judging by that style of extended slide release, and some manner of Nagant revolver, but not sure of which one exactly. Picture is too crusty for me to tell much about the C96's details, but it's probably a Mauser and not one of the clones, a lot of the other guns are obvious at a glance or very generic hunting shotguns which I'm not too familiar with.

There's a lot of nice guns here which I'm sad are probably mostly being destroyed. The Lugers, Mauser pistol, and the 1911s will probably be either saved or 'disappeared'. The Kammerlader might make it because it's an antique, and I believe Norwegian law is reasonably permissive about muskets and many other pre-20th-century weapons, which not all European countries are.

Kormak said:
Huh, they had ninja stars turned in, wth
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Maybe an old remnant from Turtlemania, lol.
 
Kormak said:
Wait, Hi-Point actually does that? Sounds like it could be abused as hell
I'm pretty sure there are some cheapo ATI pistols, even tho probably not as cheap as H-P.
Regarding buckmaster - it's definitely gonna be a tough sell. But some people might try it 'cause it's the "new thing". Depends on how much it's going to be CPR I'd say(I'd definitely give it a try if my local range going to have it).
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Most Hi-point owners buy them and then almost forget about them or use them and quickly throw them away.

I agree that a Hi-point is the cheapest pistol you can get that's not trash or dangerous to use. They're big, blocky and overbuilt for thr calibers it's offered in but that's fine.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Most Hi-point owners buy them and then almost forget about them or use them and quickly throw them away.
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I've never known them to be thrown away; only forgotten, stolen, or traded for something better if the shooting bug bites them.
Falcos_Commisar said:
I agree that a Hi-point is the cheapest pistol you can get that's not trash or dangerous to use. They're big, blocky and overbuilt for thr calibers it's offered in but that's fine.
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The only Hi-Point I'd consider buying for myself & can heartily recommend are their .40 carbines; those things handle good, are built well, don't jam (at least not unless it's with a trashed magazine), and make full use of the cartridge. Although now 9mm has more options which equal the .40, I'd still rather have the oddball.
 
ATF's bumpstock ban has been shot down by the 5th Circuit on the basis the ATF ignored their own definition of machine gun and the ambiguous nature of ATF memos previously stating bumpstocks were perfectly legal.
 
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