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MrJokerRager said:
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The 9th circuit, when called to make "en banc" decisions before Bruen, has ruled like 50 out of 50 times against the 2A.
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On that third to last post, wtf is a “Beirut triple”?
Pocket Dragoon said:
What could go wrong, right?
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In other news, I’ve been reading through that dropbox archive of old Soldier of Fortune magazine, and it’s such a time capsule, Rhodesia is still around, people are shitting heavily on 5.56, the AK-74 is a thing of rumor, and people are saying 9mm is inadequate for personal defense and .45 is the only way to go. I wonder how those boomers would react to one of the deadliest mass shooters getting a pretty good high score of 32 killed 23 injured using just a 9millie and a .22, and I bet their heads would spin if you showed them this video:
 
Seafarer said:
I guess it’s just a weird Australian term for a Mozambique drill then? You’d think they’d use the same term considering it was a Rhodie that coined it.
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They use that term on this page though can't find anything else.

Conspiracy Theory - Martin Bryant and Port Arthur - Conspiracy or Cheddar?

Thought this was an interesting read from a police officer that had to mind him. http://www.news.com.au/national/my-time-with-mass-killer-martin-bryant/story-fncynjr2-1226738815697
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So since Washington's semi-auto ban is on the mind, I figured maybe it's time to revisit one of my favorite "cool shit" guns that I really want but suspect I will never own. That said, it is at least WA legal!

The RMB-93.

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Magazine on top, barrel on the bottom, pump forward action, it's everything I want from a good weird Russian design. I also have a soft-spot for strange shotguns, those that I can actually buy anyway. The funny ones have a bad habit of being destructive devices.

Of course, the Russians have played around with these as under-barrel shotguns despite the design being UNIQUELY unsuited for that exact role. :story:
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Pretty sure that's a 9A-91 with a bad idea from almost every angle hanging off the front. It must work somewhat or we wouldn't have a picture, but I don't fancy removing my under-barrel just to reload the damn thing.
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Still a favorite oddity of mine and a gun that's on my list of unobtainiums that aren't better than what I already have, much like the SVD and the Vintorez.
 
HarblMcDavid said:
So since Washington's semi-auto ban is on the mind, I figured maybe it's time to revisit one of my favorite "cool shit" guns that I really want but suspect I will never own. That said, it is at least WA legal!

The RMB-93.

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Magazine on top, barrel on the bottom, pump forward action, it's everything I want from a good weird Russian design. I also have a soft-spot for strange shotguns, those that I can actually buy anyway. The funny ones have a bad habit of being destructive devices.

Of course, the Russians have played around with these as under-barrel shotguns despite the design being UNIQUELY unsuited for that exact role. :story:
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Pretty sure that's a 9A-91 with a bad idea from almost every angle hanging off the front. It must work somewhat or we wouldn't have a picture, but I don't fancy removing my under-barrel just to reload the damn thing. View attachment 5096085

Still a favorite oddity of mine and a gun that's on my list of unobtainiums that aren't better than what I already have, much like the SVD and the Vintorez.
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Reminds me of the KAC Master key.
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I've seen one of those up close at Dragonman's, back in 2007. If I had been into shotguns during that epoch it could've been mine, but I was into other weird combloc things instead. I'm definitely kicking myself for not buying a lot of stuff back then, especially Saigas.

And speaking of odd shotties & hybrid monstrosities, Vietnam uses Armsel Protecta's, probably for riot control.
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I didn't know China has been fielding their own version of OCIW since 2015; the QTS-11, a 20mm airburst grenade launcher integrated with a QBZ-03 rifle. Looks like the thing is single-shot, bolt action.
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Bonus: shooting ice with brass 16ga shells:

Also, this guy is 3D printing Vickers-gun links:. If I had something belt-fed, even an AR, I'd certainly be more than interested if they function & don't gum up the action with plastic shavings.
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Pocket Dragoon said:
Vietnam uses Armsel Protecta's, probably for riot control
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Makes a lot of sense. Probably its best niche, considering you wind the thing up and it'll cycle through anything no matter the power, so you can fire 12 lightly loaded beanbag shells real fast. Might not have enough power to eject the empties on its own, not sure, but that's still pretty good.
 
WhatInTheActualFuck said:
The actual problem is that everything else has to compete with the AR-15 and do so at the same price level. It's not that the AR-15 is the end-all-be-all, but it is very good and you can get a perfectly usable one for around $500 and also have access to the most comprehensive aftermarket in the firearms world.
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Look at something like the PTR-91. Its an 80 year old design made out of a stamped metal receiver and it cost $1k minimum. I know gun manufacturing costs are more complex than "old = cheap" but this rifle in the early 2010's was $700 and has only gotten more expensive. I bought one for about $900 3 years ago when I realized the prices were never going to come down and I guess that the market for any non AR platform is equally fucked forever only being bankrolled by autistic retards who want to own a certain type of rifle and the manufacturers know they can get away with charging whatever.
 
HumptiDouji said:
Makes a lot of sense. Probably its best niche, considering you wind the thing up and it'll cycle through anything no matter the power, so you can fire 12 lightly loaded beanbag shells real fast. Might not have enough power to eject the empties on its own, not sure, but that's still pretty good.
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I was going to suggest that this might be the worst application due to the indexing issues I remember reading about for the Striker, given that less lethal still kaboom just as bad out of battery, but I guess they fixed those sufficiently with the Protecta based on what I'm reading by changing things around quite a bit.
 
HumptiDouji said:
I recall hearing some not so nice things about the Stribog, anyone here have any experience with one?
Also I'd want something very close to the MP5 (or G3/CETME) aesthetic.
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Their SP9A1s are like the CZ Scorpion in that they'll chew through pretty much any 9mm that you could possibly want to reasonably shoot day and night, but those are direct blowback and not super gimmicky (just get a Scorpion if you're fine with direct blowback). The one I shot was kitted out in all the mall ninja fixings and it wasn't too unpleasant, just a tad sharp on the recoil for the size and weight of it. A slightly ugly, uncomfortable anvil if that's what you're looking for.
Their A3s are where things get a little crunchy, as the delayed roller lock system has a tendency to not re-cock heavier hammers or heavier springs so you usually have to drop a pretty light trigger into them to get them to work alright. The few shots I took (cheap motherfucker only let me have 5 shots) on a completely factory stock A3 were surprisingly pleasant. The rollers did something.

If you're not going into gunfights that you're winning in 30 rounds or less or doing a lot of competition shooting where insanely fast reloads count, just get an MP5 or a clone. The smoothness and reliability of the platform is worth the slightly off-kilter manual of arms and it's been around long enough to have great documentation on pretty much every aspect of it. I was normal a few months ago until my AP5 came in. Now this is my personality :(.
 
Duke Nukem said:
I personally enjoy the stuff, but people seriously need to not shove that shit into riding mowers or anything that can come apart like crazy. Guy is lucky he only got it in the temple.

@HumptiDouji good luck selling anything in America that isn't yet another AR-15 knockoff. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a Kalashnikov guy but fuck it, we need some variety in the market already. It's the same problem that the film industry has with comic book movies, they don't want to take risks.
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I will say PSA DOES take risks and they're finally making good AKs (note, waiting a few months to a year for all of their 5.56mm/5.45mm releases just to be safe)

See JAKL, Dagr, the 5.7mm thing, among others.

The problem with new guns is some dumbass will roll up and start saying "why should I buy this new pistol mag Glawk is just fine" or "that new rifle isn't an AR Pass"

This is even more true if your new gun has wood furniture or doesn't look TACTICAL.
 
Found some videos of a Russian guy testing various suppressors of his country, don't speak Russian but what the Youtube autogenerated subtitles told me is that the Zenitco Shadow isn't the best (despite it being their newest offering) not surprising since >monocore in 2023 lol. They also test the Armacon "Volk" bulgy-style flash hider, didn't perform terribly flash wise
They test 2 Zenitco offerings, one from Hexagon one I that might be made specifically by the Russian Military known as "ATG" and one that is homemade?
Second video where the same guy tests the "ATG" can again and also a "gas discharging" (flow through?) from "BRT"
 
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Falcos_Commisar said:
I will say PSA DOES take risks and they're finally making good AKs (note, waiting a few months to a year for all of their 5.56mm/5.45mm releases just to be safe)
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Is it really a risk when you have a built in customer base that slobbered your knob at every instance because you undercut the rest of the cheap market and trumpet MADE IN MURICA! at all the boomer congregations?

I'm not going to get into another argument on the "quality" of their AKs, if you think they're good you simply don't fucking shoot. It's like thinking they can divide by zero. As for risk, it wasn't. They were just copying their competition at the time; I.O. (aka Royal Tiger Imports), CAI, Riley Defense (their AKs suck too but at least they try). There's quite a bit of companies that were all doing US made AKs around the same time and let me tell you, not one of them has made a good product. Sure, PSA does minute improvements every generation (soon they're going to have more AK variants than the Russian government, but not for the same reasons) but they still cheap the fuck out on the most important part of making these rifles and until they stop doing that, they're going to continue to suck.

Rant over, it's your money to set on fire.
 
Particle Bored said:
Can't wait for the ballistic zombie torso video.
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Double headshot:

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Double front torso:


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Exit 2:
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Double side torso:


 
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