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i guess with my own personal experiences, i would probably prefer something like 6.8 SPC for special infantry in 12.5 through 13.7 moderated/suppressed packages and 16" with moderator and QD option for general infantry, although i would retain something equivalent to 300 win mag for long range precision and a modified 6.8 SPC (ballistic 6.5 swede clone in a 7.62 NATO sized package) for a GPMG type weapon that would be a modernized ultimax 100.
IIRC, Chris Kyle was a big fan of the 300 Win, mag.


I have zero combat experience but, I chug the .300BLK kool-aid. I think a 7.5-10.3 barrel is ideal for everything 200 yards and under and .300BLK only loses about 8% of its juice going to a SBR length system from a "16 platform. I have no issues hitting a man sized target @100 yards even with a "7.5 shorty. Obviously the .300BLK shines lobbing 220 grainBTHP in almost Hollywood levels of quiet.
 
Good. The niggers who buy this shit can barely hit anything to start. They sure as shit aren't hitting fuckall with a full auto glock. In 30 years we'll find out this was a glownigger op to decrease casuaties from gun violence in inner cities.
I think there is some 'practical' use for full auto switches. If you're barely aiming to begin with you might as well put as much lead downrange as quickly as possible. This happened in Houston a couple years ago:
 
Keep in mind whenever you invoke whatever his opinion was on anything, he lied about almost everything.

I tell people, go see the movie, enjoy it. After you've enjoyed the movie google the real Chris Kyle and see what he was all about. My understanding is most of what he said while he was overseas was accurate, the shit about beating up Jesse Ventura and shooting people from the roof of the football stadium were complete bullshit.
 
I tell people, go see the movie, enjoy it. After you've enjoyed the movie google the real Chris Kyle and see what he was all about. My understanding is most of what he said while he was overseas was accurate, the shit about beating up Jesse Ventura and shooting people from the roof of the football stadium were complete bullshit.
I haven't seen the movie and never intend to.
 
If you want a Piston driven rifle go clean sheet (long stroke is best)
I can highly recommend PWS stuff. I have rifles or uppers from both their Mk1 and Mk2 lines, and they perform as advertised. They have fantastic customer service too.
Yea I think it had issues until they ironed shit out with the JPC and that became available for public consumption. So weird seeing that tiny thing on guys that are literally 300+ pounds.
A lot of guys don't realize how little PCs cover. I'm not saying they can't save your life (I've seen them do it) if you were to take a round in one, rather they're nothing like a suit of armor. They don't even have similar coverage to soft body armor. I personally would rather run a chest rig and do shit to not get shot these days instead of running a PC.
1/9 will do 55gr kinda, 62gr ideal, 69gr pretty good for longer ranges for energy retention, up through 77gr barely at the top end where it's getting too low velocity at long range to be really useful out of a 20" without some home brew nasty load in the case. a good pet load is 77gr SMK with 22.7gr Varget max 23.5gr, or if you prefer, 23gr of H335, but be aware that H335 will only get around 2350 fps so it's a varminter, really while Varget can take coyotes. man stoppers might be something like an old school 69gr SMK on top of 22gr (or so, tune it) of N140. these are 18" + loads only, and you usually aren't getting enough velocity on shorter barrels.

note that if you want to use a gameking and do soft points, you want something around 2400/2500 fps and the 65gr in a 20" , too slow and it'll clog, too fast and it'll just tumble and ruin a pelt.

your mileage may vary, and i like to test at 20gr and work up to max 23.5gr unless i know i can push a little.
I do admire those with patience to reload for gas guns. I'm unwilling to do it myself, even for stuff like 6 ARC, which is still not cheap or as easy to find as I wish it were.
I'd never want to use an AR or AK in the home, but I'd like to have the same manual of arms and stability a long gun offers. The clear choice is a PCC, but which one?
Why not? I am not an AK fan so I can't speak to its capabilities inside a structure. The AR has an easy to use, common manual of arms, and if you run an SBR with a can, that mitigates a lot of the noise, recoil, and all of the fireball. I promise that with some training and practice it's not hard at all to be able to move around a structure efficiently and engage targets with 5 rounds into the A-zone in under 2 seconds with ARs. Ask @Club Sandwich, sounds as if he did enough of that to really know this stuff. If you absolutely must have a PCC, a rather good one I've gotten some trigger time on is the Sig MPX, the 8" model. That thing is legit, but it is also damn expensive. I would advise you steer clear of the CZ Scorpion unless you want to do something like get a customized one from CZ Custom.
If supplying proper ammo and magazines were a non-issue would you have gone for something different besides standard USGI 5.56 rifles and 5.56 loads?
Great question. I'd pick 6mm ARC, personally. Up close one can hit opponents with a round almost twice as heavy as an M193 or 855A1 (though they are a lot slower than either of those), and I've engaged targets out to 600m reliably. One would be able to keep their rifle reasonably light and have an ammo loadout not terribly far from 5.56.
IIRC, Chris Kyle was a big fan of the 300 Win, mag.
Plenty of stuff out now that smokes the 300 Winny for LR. 300 PRC, for example.
I have zero combat experience but, I chug the .300BLK kool-aid. I think a 7.5-10.3 barrel is ideal for everything 200 yards and under and .300BLK only loses about 8% of its juice going to a SBR length system from a "16 platform. I have no issues hitting a man sized target @100 yards even with a "7.5 shorty. Obviously the .300BLK shines lobbing 220 grainBTHP in almost Hollywood levels of quiet.
I agree with you on 300 BLK being solid out of a suppressed SBR, but I limit it to 100m personally, I know it can go farther, but I'm thinking the whole thing is better in its niche role as a CQB weapon that is far superior to the MP5. I don't run subs, either, but that's just me. I've also not shot any living creatures with one either, so my inexperience with it biases me some.
 
lot of guys don't realize how little PCs cover. I'm not saying they can't save your life (I've seen them do it) if you were to take a round in one, rather they're nothing like a suit of armor. They don't even have similar coverage to soft body armor. I personally would rather run a chest rig and do shit to not get shot these days instead of running a PC.
Well it also depends on the size of the plates. I wear XL SAPI because I have a 50 inch chest. Some people rock side plates. However, you're not wrong. PCs are just meant to protect your most vital organs while everything else is considered a "survivable wound" if met with trauma care in a timely manner. The best is to just wear the PC over my ballistic vest like we're supposed to in active shooter situations but it gets very unwieldy.
 
Do we have a Mega Rad Knife thread? Because I caught this on an old episode of ARS today; a Floyd Nichols substitute-standard combat knife from '41. He was a blacksmith & WW1 veteran who made them for local guys when they were drafted.
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(And his best friend was a saddle-maker who did the scabbards).

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Thoughts and/or concerns?
 
Don't know fuck all about knives but magnetic mounts are lunacy on a combat weapon. For range use? No idea.
 
The more I see these dumb, flexing Jaeger Z999 videos the more I want a APC9, or a cool PCC.

Fucking gun influencers, man. "Oh look at me, I rock this quarter million dollar Audemars Piguet while firing this 5,000 dollar Alpha AK hurr durr.'"

Zenitco clad AKs being a flex. Man what a world.

I'd never want to use an AR or AK in the home, but I'd like to have the same manual of arms and stability a long gun offers. The clear choice is a PCC, but which one?

Preferably one that can accept Glock mags since I already have an extensive Glock biome. Two 33rd mags and a PCC with a light and red dot and I'm set.
Why not just get an AR9?

I've got a 9mm upper and one of these:
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...though yes, you will have a slightly different MoA for reloading. There are Glock and Colt mag versions, 9mm and .45 versions.

(the Stern on the left gives you LRHO, but it's literally twice the price of the Sylvan that I have on the right)
 
M16s can be a pain in the ass. I cleared houses with them. I ended up with my platoon sergeants M4 at CAX when my rifle shit the bed and it was fucking awesome. Those 6 inches made a huge difference in handling. Short stocking your 16 by laying it on top of your should wasn't terrible uncommon in country. Doorways, hallways, rooms, etc were all small. I wouldn't want a 20" barrel in a trench. I'm sure guys in Afghan liked them before the Corps made the switched to M4s because I know those engagements could get long. These aren't your average guys going to man a trench in Eastern Europe. The sec ops guys are probably going to end up with full kits and they'll get longer barrels if they want them.

13.7" is fine for intermediate engagement ranges. You aren't just one dude shooting one round at someone generally. Your whole platoon/squad/team is going to be laying into a position so the fact that a single round is lacking an extra hundred or two ft/lbs is not the end of the world. It's easy to get hung up on minute numbers, but it doesn't matter as long as the round performs.
Once you get at or past 14 inches the thing to do is transition to a mid length gas system.
well, maybe i'm misunderstanding you, but generally longer barrels provide more velocity, true, and fragmentation is generally velocity dependent, but it's also angle dependent, and the bullet construction itself should also encourage fragmentation. M855 is a poor fragmenter in general, even at 3000+ fps you're usually getting 3-5 chunks rather than tiny razor sharp fragments. penetration is almost unrelated. true, you if you drive an object fast enough, you can penetrate nearly anything, however that's not really a function of barrel length as much as the bullet mass and propellant load being optimized for the barrel so that your spitzer tip is actually striking the target at an appropriate angle to penetrate it - if it's off, it'll tend to snap off, tumble, and smash into the target. if the target is hardened in some way (armor, bricks, et c) then you'll get very little penetration. you can over penetrate as well, where you just ice pick targets and make neat little holes which often aren't immediately fatal/arresting.

1/9 is pretty good overall for 62gr if your bullet isn't overly long (no tracers, no 80gr AMAX stuff ).
People also forget that LONG rifle barrels are holdovers from the late 19th to early 20 century when infantry were expected to try and make hits out to a kilometer or at least out to 600+ meters.

Even today with LPVOs and gently magnified optics (3..5-4x) hitting a man sized target past 350-500 meters/yards isn't easy and it's hard if you're shooting unsupported or if conditions aren't great.

Go to your local outdoor range, go to the 100 yard/meter section then multiply by 3 or even 5 and see how easy that would be with irons.

Most ranges max out at 300 meters/yards unless it's a longer range shooting focused range.
It's easy to care too much about numbers with shooting. It's not going to matter unless you're shooting ultra-long ranges or benchrest railguns or whatever. You'll be able to measure the practical effect of those numbers if you're someone who needs to care. I didn't buy a shorty AR for like a year because I kept dancing between a 11.5" or 12.5". It was retarded. Both would offer more than adequate expansion velocity for the rounds at realistic ranges I face whether it's hunting or self-defense. "Just shoot the fucking gun" is a lesson pretty much everyone can stand to relearn regularly. That's what's important, not 50fps here or OMG, will that 1" make me into a CQB ninja?! I got the 12.5" because a company I liked had one in stock and I love it. Put a short can on it and it's money.
The amount of agonizing I see in the 10.5 vs 11.5 vs 12.5 inch AR barrel length forums is hilarious. All are relatively short and probably deserve a suppressor.
Fucking gun influencers, man. "Oh look at me, I rock this quarter million dollar Audemars Piguet while firing this 5,000 dollar Alpha AK hurr durr.'"
Uuughh Gun bunnies on YouTube are the worst. Absolute gear queers to the man/woman and the smugness most reek of when showing off their full auto shit is annoying.

Then they shill either overpriced stuff or whatever the newest fad is.
WIth modern powders the 6x45, there are multiples names and very slight variations, gives higher velocity with the same weight 5.56 equivalent and better ballistic performance at range. You can also go with higher, say 62gr vs 55gr, and maintain 5.56 velocity. It's counterinutive, but the larger pushing surface on 6mm bullets is a sweet spot and takes advantage of modern powders that didn't exist in the 60s. I think it even has lower operating pressures. 5.56 porridge is too hot, 7.62 is too cold, 6mm is just right.

I love the idea of the round too much for having no experience with it. I want one in probably 14.5" pinned, but I never got my own reloading gear let alone got into wildcatting. Although, you can form 6x45 brass from 5.56 pretty easily from my understanding.
Hmmm 🤔 interesting round.

The best intermediate round always seems to be between 6-6.8mm.
 
... magnetic mounts are lunacy on a combat weapon. For range use? No idea.
It looks to have some sort of locating tab/slot, so it's not smooth mating surfaces. But it still sketches me out, even for average normie range use; i.e. catching on the edge of a tabled/door/window/barricade & being knocked askew or clean off the base. My thought is a small locating lug or locking tab won't keep anything meaningfully zeroed, no matter how strong the magnets are.

Plus it looks to be taller than most red-dots when mounted, because that magnetic base is pretty thick; it has the form factor & height over bore of something from ten years ago. Everyone is trying to cram their shit as low & light as they can get it, but these guys were like "so what? Fucking magnets!"

And I wonder if it uses wireless charging as well, because that shit is starting to show up on a lot of gadgets lately. :story:
 
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Do we have a Mega Rad Knife thread?
On the one hand I hope this never becomes reality because the sperging in such a thread may cause Josh to say fuck it and nuke the servers. On the other hand, watching people do and say retarded things on the Internet will why we're all here.

Back to gun faggotry, have we talked shotguns yet? Probably, but I'm uninterested in searching through the thread to see what was posted previously. I have 4 shotguns, with 2 that I run regularly. Those are an LTT Beretta 1301 (second gen model) and a Mossberg 940 JM. Those are both excellent shotguns. The 940 is very clearly a competition firearm. The 1301 could work well as either a breaching tool or a killing weapon.

The 2 I only pull out occasionally are a Benelli M1 Super 90 and a Beretta Silver Hawk. The Benelli was a case of me impulse buying a gun I saw in a movie as a teenager (Face/Off). It's a decent shotgun, but the 1301 is superior. The Silver Hawk is a 16 gauge SxS that I use to hunt waterfowl. It had me seriously considering a CZ Sharptail Coach, but damn those things are expensive.

I find that when I do live fire practice with a 12 gauge, a structured, planned session is better. I'm not a weak man, but recoil tolerance is a real thing that's more finite than one may realize. It's similar to when I'm load testing my .375 H&H. Better to have a game plan for these types of things.
 
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I have about 4 grandpa knives I'm very fond of.

No tacticlol benchmades or OTF microtechs with serrated blades.

Just classic, turn of the century style lock backs and slip joints your grandpa used to cut apple slices with.
 
On the one hand I hope this never becomes reality because the sperging in such a thread may cause Josh to say fuck it and nuke the servers. On the other hand, watching people do and say retarded things on the Internet will why we're all here.
True; it would become concentrated autism even with a dedicated janny, and rapidly unhinge itself without. Still though, I do dabble in blade spergery when it's vintage stuff like that Nichols knife.
I have about 4 grandpa knives I'm very fond of.

No tacticlol benchmades or OTF microtechs with serrated blades.

Just classic, turn of the century style lock backs and slip joints your grandpa used to cut apple slices with.
That's the kind of shit I'd like to see, post them!
Back to gun faggotry, have we talked shotguns yet? Probably, but I'm uninterested in searching through the thread to see what was posted previously. I have 4 shotguns, with 2 that I run regularly. Those are an LTT Beretta 1301 (second gen model) and a Mossberg 940 JM. Those are both excellent shotguns. The 940 is very clearly a competition firearm. The 1301 could work well as either a breaching tool or a killing weapon.

The 2 I only pull out occasionally are a Benelli M1 Super 90 and a Beretta Silver Hawk. The Benelli was a case of me impulse buying a gun I saw in a movie as a teenager (Face/Off). It's not a decent shotgun, but the 1301 is superior. The Silver Hawk is a 16 gauge SxS that I use to hunt waterfowl. It had me seriously considering a CZ Sharptail Coach, but damn those things are expensive.
I've never been much into scatterguns, but I do love the classic Benelli O/U my Dad uses for pheasant; so I've always wanted something like that with bespoke furniture, fitment, and fucking cool damascus barrels.

Although one of those nutty Turkish pump-action doubles or the Chiappa break-action triple would be hilariously fun, even if completely impractical.
 
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On the one hand I hope this never becomes reality because the sperging in such a thread may cause Josh to say fuck it and nuke the servers. On the other hand, watching people do and say retarded things on the Internet will why we're all here.

Back to gun faggotry, have we talked shotguns yet? Probably, but I'm uninterested in searching through the thread to see what was posted previously. I have 4 shotguns, with 2 that I run regularly. Those are an LTT Beretta 1301 (second gen model) and a Mossberg 940 JM. Those are both excellent shotguns. The 940 is very clearly a competition firearm. The 1301 could work well as either a breaching tool or a killing weapon.

The 2 I only pull out occasionally are a Benelli M1 Super 90 and a Beretta Silver Hawk. The Benelli was a case of me impulse buying a gun I saw in a movie as a teenager (Face/Off). It's a decent shotgun, but the 1301 is superior. The Silver Hawk is a 16 gauge SxS that I use to hunt waterfowl. It had me seriously considering a CZ Sharptail Coach, but damn those things are expensive.

I find that when I do live fire practice with a 12 gauge, a structured, planned session is better. I'm not a weak man, but recoil tolerance is a real thing that's more finite than one may realize. It's similar to when I'm load testing my .375 H&H. Better to have a game plan for these types of things.
Excellent shotguns.

Mine are a Mossberg SA-20 (Turkish clone of a Beretta 20 gauge made by TriStar) and the classic Mossberg 500 12 gauge in wood furniture with the 18 and 26 inch barrels.
870 12GA with a Streamlight fore end & a Hogue 12" stock.
Also
a Kel•Tec KS7 because it looks awesome.
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Hehe the KS7 is a meme gun but a cool looking one

As for the 870.... either make sure it was made before 2000 or get a Mossberg 500.
 
Excellent shotguns.

Mine are a Mossberg SA-20 (Turkish clone of a Beretta 20 gauge made by TriStar) and the classic Mossberg 500 12 gauge in wood furniture with the 18 and 26 inch barrels.

Hehe the KS7 is a meme gun but a cool looking one

As for the 870.... either make sure it was made before 2000 or get a Mossberg 500.
It was made in 1957 or so.
 
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