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Marvin said:
Home invasions
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its important to note that home invasions are not burglaries, and while home invasions (where a burglarized home is occupied) account for the majority of burglaries (around 2/3rds as per FBI crime stats), the amount that result in an armed confrontation is vanishing small to the point where it's difficult to get reliable numbers for it. around half of burglaries check for obvious security and about the same are unplanned/opportunistic crimes. only 13% of burglaries are resolved with recovered goods, and under 20% are resolved with actual arrests.

that being said, safety is a numbers game - and if you roll dice often enough you will get all possible results eventually. a cheap shotgun is effective, easily obtainable in nearly all jurisdictions in the US (including ban states), and has a potent effect on target as long as the shooter does their part. handguns with confident and trained shooters are the mainline weapon for law enforcement the world over. being prepared is one thing, but accessibility is very important too; likewise the majority of gunfights in the home are resolved with a handful of shots - the most publicized ones with under 6 shots.

by avoiding an extravagant lifestyle that attracts criminals, by being prepared (armed and trained with people in your household other than you that are also armed and trained) and limiting your risk exposure, you're sure to reduce your chances of being targeted for a burglary turned home invasion.
 
Club Sandwich said:
its important to note that home invasions are not burglaries, and while home invasions (where a burglarized home is occupied) account for the majority of burglaries (around 2/3rds as per FBI crime stats), the amount that result in an armed confrontation is vanishing small to the point where it's difficult to get reliable numbers for it. around half of burglaries check for obvious security and about the same are unplanned/opportunistic crimes. only 13% of burglaries are resolved with recovered goods, and under 20% are resolved with actual arrests.

that being said, safety is a numbers game - and if you roll dice often enough you will get all possible results eventually. a cheap shotgun is effective, easily obtainable in nearly all jurisdictions in the US (including ban states), and has a potent effect on target as long as the shooter does their part. handguns with confident and trained shooters are the mainline weapon for law enforcement the world over. being prepared is one thing, but accessibility is very important too; likewise the majority of gunfights in the home are resolved with a handful of shots - the most publicized ones with under 6 shots.

by avoiding an extravagant lifestyle that attracts criminals, by being prepared (armed and trained with people in your household other than you that are also armed and trained) and limiting your risk exposure, you're sure to reduce your chances of being targeted for a burglary turned home invasion.
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I don't think a Glock is difficult to obtain in any states, is it? I didn't have trouble in Maryland, for example.

Even if it is difficult to obtain, my argument is that it's worth it over a lower capacity shotgun.
 
Marvin said:
Even if it is difficult to obtain, my argument is that it's worth it over a lower capacity shotgun.
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perhaps, however some people have a preference for one or the other and two hands on a 20 gauge shotgun might be better than a 10 round Glock 17 3rd gen that small hands might have trouble working with under stress. short shucking a shotgun is a large danger to this sort of person, so a heavy all-steel revolver is further simplifying defense options.

the bottom line is a firearm that the shooter is trained with and confident in will generally get the job done vs a flat recommendation of any particular firearm for all shooters. few shooters are inclined to take training seriously and merely count firing a few times at a shooting range as training enough.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
perhaps, however some people have a preference for one or the other and two hands on a 20 gauge shotgun might be better than a 10 round Glock 17 3rd gen that small hands might have trouble working with under stress. short shucking a shotgun is a large danger to this sort of person, so a heavy all-steel revolver is further simplifying defense options.

the bottom line is a firearm that the shooter is trained with and confident in will generally get the job done vs a flat recommendation of any particular firearm for all shooters. few shooters are inclined to take training seriously and merely count firing a few times at a shooting range as training enough.
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Echoing this, being comfortable with the gun is just if not more important than the gun itself. It's why my first ( and still only, sad) pistol was a revolver. I know that it's going bang when I pull the trigger, barring a act of God.

Psychologically, it's a massive boost to my peace of mind. Still want a semi auto, but the reliability, and statistics saying it's going to be over within around 5 shots, all says I'm fine. What's important is that you practice and git gud
 
also a gun that has common enough ammunition that you can acquire within your budget both defense ammo, some applicable magazine or moon clips or whatever, and you aren't worried about being unable to find that ammunition is quite the boon. 9mm, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 12 gauge (and for recoil sensitive types, "low recoil" 12 gauge is available too). heavy steel pistols that fit the hand and aren't a pain or expensive chore to shoot encourages repeated, enjoyable practice. and a quality, well-maintained pistol with good ammo in the hands of a practiced shooter is a good defense. alloy or stainless steel pistols that are small might be real annoying to shoot but ideal in a salty environment for carry purposes, or if you want to have a gun sit by the bed at night. a slim pistol might fit smaller hands better and something with a pinky rest on the magazine might make the smaller pistol fit better for larger hands.

you don't need super-kryptonite bullets or anything, but don't mix questionable ammunition with stuff you might depend on for yours or your families life. shoot the defensive ammo once in a while to rotate it and make sure it's hitting where you expect it to hit and is actual experience vs some other person's opinion of it. after all, you're the one that might need to shoot that particular box of ammo one day. "buying performance" is a mistake - whether you're depending on a gizmo to win your fights or magic ammo to home in on a headshot around corners or something. shoot it and if it's off center, too snappy, sometimes jams, or is too expensive for regular practice every few months, then get something else. even regular full metal jacket ("ball") ammo will do the work if it's quality, reliable ammo and works well with your gun.
 
Club Sandwich said:
also a gun that has common enough ammunition that you can acquire within your budget both defense ammo, some applicable magazine or moon clips or whatever, and you aren't worried about being unable to find that ammunition is quite the boon. 9mm, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 12 gauge (and for recoil sensitive types, "low recoil" 12 gauge is available too). heavy steel pistols that fit the hand and aren't a pain or expensive chore to shoot encourages repeated, enjoyable practice. and a quality, well-maintained pistol with good ammo in the hands of a practiced shooter is a good defense. alloy or stainless steel pistols that are small might be real annoying to shoot but ideal in a salty environment for carry purposes, or if you want to have a gun sit by the bed at night. a slim pistol might fit smaller hands better and something with a pinky rest on the magazine might make the smaller pistol fit better for larger hands.

you don't need super-kryptonite bullets or anything, but don't mix questionable ammunition with stuff you might depend on for yours or your families life. shoot the defensive ammo once in a while to rotate it and make sure it's hitting where you expect it to hit and is actual experience vs some other person's opinion of it. after all, you're the one that might need to shoot that particular box of ammo one day. "buying performance" is a mistake - whether you're depending on a gizmo to win your fights or magic ammo to home in on a headshot around corners or something. shoot it and if it's off center, too snappy, sometimes jams, or is too expensive for regular practice every few months, then get something else. even regular full metal jacket ("ball") ammo will do the work if it's quality, reliable ammo and works well with your gun.
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Being able to source ammo is very important. Ideally you'll have a few pistols in different calibers to insulate you in a shortage. I'd recommend a 9mm first, because it's very common, then a 40 S&W or a wheelgun round, possibly both, because when push comes to shove, like in 2020, 9mm is good for sharing if you have it, but hard to buy because everyone is. Whereas less common rounds, while a bit more pricy, will stick on the shelves more, allowing easier access. In any case, build a stockpile during the good times.

And yes, practice with EVERYTHING. See what runs well in your gun. Not all ammo plays well even if it's the right caliber. Some guns are picky, and some are hungry hippos that eat everything (the Ruger P series comes to mind)
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
It didn't take those fucking fascists long to delete the video of that one guy's 3D printed flywheel-delayed rifle. That, I'd really like to see.
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Parts 2-5 and an additional video on the future of printed rifles are available on the linked channel

I have found a youtube channel hosting several old gun videos, most notably this tape by Bill Holmes on the manufacture of a .50 BMG anti-material rifle. Holmes was a prolific DIY gun maker and wrote several instructional guides on the subject.
Wild Arms Research and Development mini-documentary on Holmes (I would also recommend his video on the Maadi Griffin)
Guntuber Reno May posted a picture of an interesting Fitelite SCR configuration, utilizing an FM-15 bufferless side charging upper from Foxtrot Mike
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TFB has put out an article on the Ciener pattern belt fed and it's later enhancement, the Valkyrie BRS-MOD-1
What is more interesting however is the custom gunsmithing Nicholas C. did and had done to enhance his unit including modifying an 80% lower. The article is another great source of images and information on the Ciener type belt fed
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Anti-Tank Mosin
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Images of the two experimental cartridges, 7.62x155mmR and 7.62x122mm.
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Apparently the Rumor about Lake City stopping civillian sales is bullshit
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PSA has teased Colt SMG reproductions presumably under their H&R brand, 10.5in and 16in modles will be available from the factory
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Lastly I have come across an interesting .22 rifle, where cartridges are not fed into the chamber by the forward movement of the bolt, but indirectly by the rearward motion of it (If you are confused the video will make it abundantly clear)
 
DocAwe said:
Also most .40s can be readily converted to 9mm with not much more than a barrel swap giving you access to two ammo sources.
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Very true. And a barrel is a lot cheaper than a new gun. If you're budget is tight, or you just don't want to deal with another gun floating around, that's a very good idea
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has put out an article on the Ciener pattern belt fed and it's later enhancement, the Valkyrie BRS-MOD-1
What is more interesting however is the custom gunsmithing Nicholas C. did and had done to enhance his unit including modifying an 80% lower. The article is another great source of images and information on the Ciener type belt fed
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Belt fed AR's are cool shit. You don't have to pay tens of thousands to get a GPMG clone, it's just a bolt on kit for your AR build and I love that kind of Dakka
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I love knowing that was made as a joke and a bit of spite
 
WelperHelper99 said:
If we're just talking smaller, a used Smith and Wesson J frame or Ladysmith in. 38 would do the job. They're pretty damn light, fit in a pocket easy with a Uncle Mike pocket holster, and there are MILLIONS in circulation. And .38 special out of a snubby, especially the old FBI load, is very time tested by police forces. Remington makes good batches. I got my model 36 for about 350.

I don't get why they put the flash hider on backwards all the time, thats only supposed to be for storage. The thermal is neat though lol.
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Man $350 for a Model 36 is a STEAL.

I'M looking at Gunjoker Model 60s and Christ beat to shit used is within $100 of brand new.

Also.... Prepare yourself.... USED Keltec P32s are $400 now.

However allegedly Keltec is about to release a Gen 3 P32. I'm intrigued.

Also waiting on Ruger to get the Marlin 1894 .357 in the 18.5 inch barrel out the door next year.
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Man $350 for a Model 36 is a STEAL.

I'M looking at Gunjoker Model 60s and Christ beat to shit used is within $100 of brand new.

Also.... Prepare yourself.... USED Keltec P32s are $400 now.

However allegedly Keltec is about to release a Gen 3 P32. I'm intrigued.

Also waiting on Ruger to get the Marlin 1894 .357 in the 18.5 inch barrel out the door next year.
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Cereal?
I paid sub $300 for both of my P32.
They were bought a few years apart.
Both are Gen2, interesting if a gen3 becomes a reality.
 
I may have mentioned this one after the first time I saw them use it; Taofledermaus has been hucking his shit from a new scattergun, the "Tracker B" bullpup.
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Notice the blotted out laser in the most recent video, but it wasn't censored in the first. Wtf?

I think it may be an updated variant of this(?), the Tracker HG-105
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And since I'm on the subject of bullpup shotguns, check this shit out; the "Tokarev TBP-12":
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His garbage-can range table may be a bit of a spoiler.
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Both are allegedly sub-$500; the Tracker looks... decent. I had no idea that someone was still using the Tokarev name, although I'm not surprised it's the Turkroaches who did it.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
I may have mentioned this one after the first time I saw them use it; Taofledermaus has been hucking his shit from a new scattergun, the "Tracker B" bullpup.
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Notice the blotted out laser in the most recent video, but it wasn't censored in the first. Wtf?

I think it may be an updated variant of this(?), the Tracker HG-105
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And since I'm on the subject of bullpup shotguns, check this shit out; the "Tokarev TBP-12":
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His garbage-can range table may be a bit of a spoiler.
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Both are allegedly sub-$500; the Tracker looks... decent. I had no idea that someone was still using the Tokarev name, although I'm not surprised it's the Turkroaches who did it.
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Isnt Taofledermaus in California? Semi-auto shotgun with detachable mag is an assault weapon in CA.
 
Pocket Dragoon said:
His garbage-can range table may be a bit of a spoiler.
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i thought the channel was called "guntreviews" and felt my soul leave my body for a second. those magazines that go with every turkish 12ga look gross, i always wondered why they don't just take VEPR mags. i also wonder why motherfucker from MDArms stopped working on the double stack saiga mag...
 
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