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Here's two things I never expected to see together. Fresh from Ukraine:
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Sig MCX in 7.62x39
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likeacrackado said:
One thing to consider with the newer S&W semis is the texture. I like the texture on my Shield Plus for grip when I'm shooting, but its rough and fine enough to catch clothing. People talk about rough texturing irritating skin, but that doesn't bother me and I carry appendix. What does bother me is when the texture would grab cotton shirts and print like a motherfucker. Had to sand down the side facing out.

On the topic of expensive guns for HD. I dont really care if the cops take one of my nicer guns for awhile provided I'm alive and not being indicted, but I agree for CC handguns. How guys feel comfortable carrying around 2011s worth the value of my collection combined is beyond me.
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I like to carry my PDP appendix but the texture does irritate after awhile. My 43x is a lot better but since I live in a ban state I might as well have a larger caliber and the standard limit if I chose 10mm
 
I have a younger friend who's interested in getting his first gun. He's torn on what he wants right now, and I don't think the advice of myself, one person alone (and I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination either) is good enough to help him.

We talked a bit and right now he's boiled down his choices to: Handgun, a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun, or some kind of PCC. He doesn't want a rifle like an AR or anything. I asked him why and he said because he's worried about penetration. I told him that handgun bullets can actually penetrate more than a Rifle depending on what kind of rifle/what kind of handgun. But he didn't really believe me.

Thoughts?
 
A Crying Goblin said:
I have a younger friend who's interested in getting his first gun. He's torn on what he wants right now, and I don't think the advice of myself, one person alone (and I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination either) is good enough to help him.

We talked a bit and right now he's boiled down his choices to: Handgun, a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun, or some kind of PCC. He doesn't want a rifle like an AR or anything. I asked him why and he said because he's worried about penetration. I told him that handgun bullets can actually penetrate more than a Rifle depending on what kind of rifle/what kind of handgun. But he didn't really believe me.

Thoughts?
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I personally went Handgun, 12 Gauge, AR-15, and then purchases went a touch out of control until I filled my gun safe.

As far as him not believing you, have him look at ballistic gel tests. He might not believe you, but he (hopefully) believes that. Hell, there's significant differences even among different brands/types of ammo in the same caliber (+P, JHP, FMJ, different load types and bullet weights, etc).

He should probably do some research if he's disagreeing on such a basic fact. Maybe go to the range, take a basic instruction course, and test-fire a few things to see what he likes (Many ranges rent guns to use on-premise).
 
A Crying Goblin said:
I have a younger friend who's interested in getting his first gun. He's torn on what he wants right now, and I don't think the advice of myself, one person alone (and I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination either) is good enough to help him.

We talked a bit and right now he's boiled down his choices to: Handgun, a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun, or some kind of PCC. He doesn't want a rifle like an AR or anything. I asked him why and he said because he's worried about penetration. I told him that handgun bullets can actually penetrate more than a Rifle depending on what kind of rifle/what kind of handgun. But he didn't really believe me.

Thoughts?
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Show him the Kyle Rittenhouse footage where the bullet didn't over penetrate bicep faggot's arm but blew a chunk off.
 
A Crying Goblin said:
he's worried about penetration
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anything that is deadly enough to kill reliably is also going to penetrate most interior and some exterior walls barring reinforced concrete or old world brickwork.

a shooter is responsible for knowing what is beyond their target and is responsible for all bullets fired, intentionally or unintentionally.

the federal murder rule doesn't protect your wife or children from stray gunfire, it only assigns culpability afterwards. shoot to end the threat as quickly as possible with the necessary amount of force. don't chase after people when the threat is over and don't create more problems for yourself than you have to. if you are hesitating to shoot because of your lack of confidence in your shot placement, then practice more. position yourself in a way that gives you an advantage and minimizes harm to unintended targets.

this means that you should not shoot without care for things you do not intend to shoot, and simultaneously realize that if you are shooting to end a threat, you had better minimize collateral through training (shot placement, frangible ammunition, sufficient threat-stopping power) and avoiding the situation (don't live in crime infested areas, do not associate with criminals, have significant physical security such as good quality locks, doors, hinges, windows, security monitoring/alarm monitoring service, do not advertise you have things worth a home invasion, et c) rather than depend on technology to solve the problem for you.

heavy handguns are often easier to use than lighter handguns. firearms that involve more points of contact (shoulder and two hands vs one or two hands) are also easier to use. a firearm that is affordable to train with regularly is better than an expensive one that is barely shot. old can be good if the shooter has confidence in it. simple can be better than fancy if the shooter is familiar with the controls and how it "points". nearly all firearms can be deadly effective in the hands of a regularly trained shooter.

new shooters shouldn't substitute money and gadgets for training and usability. a gun that is difficult to use is difficult to defend with. a gun that is hard to get to is hard to get to in an emergency. a gun used for sport might be viable for defense with little modification - don't discount "hunting guns" if they're cheap or labeled for "ducks" or "deer".

guns are like cars. if you want to get good, you need ammunition, time at the range, and familiarity with regular practice. consider taking a hunter safety course with him and regular visits to a shooting range - especially one that allows rentals.
 
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Entrepreneur Matt Slaugh is working to bring to market Glock Magazine fed 80% MAC lowers built to the "MacNCheese v1" (a 3D Printed design) standard

GunCAD Devs UberPoor and S3 are working on an new MP5 lower that will be compatible with Hoffman Tactical Super Safeties, an Indigenously designed FRT and an auto sear
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5.7 Mini-SCAR
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Do you want an RPD but can't afford one of the like two transferable guns or find a parts kit for a semi auto build? Do you also coincidentally want to larp as a Cyberpunk MACV-SOG Commando?
You're in luck because the Black Lotus Coalition is working to create the MG-47
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RPD Belt Fed, AK Barrel, MG-34 Feed tray and MG-42 top cover (a Printed option is being worked on), FRT Compatible

Remember this?
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Here it is now! (Printed Lower)
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This is the assault weapon The Gun Lobby wants on our streets, it is a weapon of war to surpass Metal Gear
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Italian XDB Rapax, utilizes a "rotating block" locking mechanism (I don't think they mean a rotating barrel as the barrel looks nothing like any other rotating barrel I have ever seen)
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The war on machinegun conversion devices continues, and law enforcement continues to lose.
In Marion County, Indiana alone 100 charges were filed in 2023 and most offenders were under 22

Lastly, I wanted to share an observation I made.
I am a prolific reader, I read a lot of Books. A Book I read recently was "The Anticommunist Manifesto" by Jesse Kelly. In this book Jesse Kelly stated in the section regarding gun control that Conservatives must oppose a 3D Printed Gun Ban. This in my view is fascinating, Because Jesse Kelly is not some self published kook (The book was published by Simon and Schuster) he is in fact one of the most prominent conservatives in America as he hosts The Jesse Kelly Show, which took over Rush Limbaugh's timeslot.
 
quaawaa said:
The French copy no one and no open copies the French (gear-delayed recoil-operated rifle):
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I think that Ian didn't quite understand that rifle (which is understandable because it's very retarded), and that the gears don't delay the action, but rather accelerate it. The bolt is missing because it got hammered to pieces.

The Dude said:
I've often wondered why more weapons never tried similar
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There's some developments. Ian showed off that really slick suppressor with forced air cooling a while ago, which I thought was cool as fuck. In general though I think it's just that quick change barrels generally work well enough.

Troon_Patrol said:
Former sheriff Lee Bacca was sentenced to federal prison last time I checked.
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There's a man who should be given the chair for all the vile shit he's been part of. If you ever look into the disappearance of Mithrice Richardson, it's absurdly fucking suspect with all kinds of sleazy details. I suspect that this precinct engages in human trafficking (which would explain the suspicious police behavior on her case), and I would not be surprised if Baca had a personal hand in that racket.
The Bay Area is rotten to the goddamn core.

MrJokerRager said:
I think its related to the upcoming trial against the NRA.
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Is it one of those fraudulent liberal suits or what?
 
HumptiDouji said:
There's a man who should be given the chair for all the vile shit he's been part of. If you ever look into the disappearance of Mithrice Richardson, it's absurdly fucking suspect with all kinds of sleazy details. I suspect that this precinct engages in human trafficking (which would explain the suspicious police behavior on her case), and I would not be surprised if Baca had a personal hand in that racket.
The Bay Area is rotten to the goddamn core.
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I'm actually not familiar with that case, I'll have to look into that sounds interesting. The US prison /jail system has always had a problem being a"pee-pee-poo-rape dungeon", as NULL puts it. I have managed to stay out of prison and retain my 2A rights, although I have known quite a few people that have gone through the system, I know someone right now is that serving time for possessing a large amount of heroin while he was incarcerated and serving time for previous crimes. The most offensive thing I recall during the Baca prison scandal was going after the family that were visiting inmates, IIRC LASD beat the ever living shit out of a family member visiting an inmate in a LASD run facility. There were a lot of little gangs supposedly former under-sherrif Tanaka has a viking tattoo on the bicep that was supposed to represent an Anglo-LASD crew, if that sounds funny, it should be as he is Japanese. All the conversations I've had with LASD they always talked about LAPD being very bureaucratic as opposed to LASD that would rather "crack heads than hand out business cards" as one deputy told me years ago. On the subject of 2A rights, the "acid test" for a good Chief/head Sherrif too me has always been: Does the man allow the people with clean reccords he is sworn protect to own firearms? If the answer is yes, he is typically a good guy, maybe conservative but, has an altruistic sense of justice he wants a "good guy" to have a gun. The scumbags who are just seeking power/office/fame to lateral to some government elected office will always roll with whatever the majority perceived opinion is so down the line when they are running for congree they can say they were "tough on gun crime ever since being a former sherrif". Baca and Tanaka were both anti 2A if I recall and both objective dirtbags based on everything I knew.


Both these anti 2A California cockaroaches are now federally convicted felons.
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A Crying Goblin said:
I have a younger friend who's interested in getting his first gun. He's torn on what he wants right now, and I don't think the advice of myself, one person alone (and I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination either) is good enough to help him.

We talked a bit and right now he's boiled down his choices to: Handgun, a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun, or some kind of PCC. He doesn't want a rifle like an AR or anything. I asked him why and he said because he's worried about penetration. I told him that handgun bullets can actually penetrate more than a Rifle depending on what kind of rifle/what kind of handgun. But he didn't really believe me.

Thoughts?
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LGHDR+ said:
As far as him not believing you, have him look at ballistic gel tests. He might not believe you, but he (hopefully) believes that. Hell, there's significant differences even among different brands/types of ammo in the same caliber (+P, JHP, FMJ, different load types and bullet weights, etc).
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Be aware the gel tests can be misleading. Rifles are usually shot in 20% gel while handguns are shot in 10% gel. This is due to the origins of gel testing. Rifles were first tested in gel by the military. They specified and still specify 20% gel for their tests. When pistol rounds started being tested in gel it was due to the FBI standards in the late 80s and early 90s. They specified (and still specify) a certain penetration value with a .22 BB shot within a certain velocity range. To meet this the gel usually needs to be around 10%.

For pistol the luckygunner tests are good but a bit dated. They were all done in clear gel, which no matter what the clear ballistics says, is not the same. However they all were done in the same medium and you can get an idea at least as to what doesn’t work. They also haven’t added any new ammo since 2020.

On the subject of clear ballistics while it looks cool and will get the views on the YouTubes it is not calibrated. Hornady did a good write up on the issues between clear and real gel.
 
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