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Chrome lined, always.
You're gonna get your PP slapped, there is not nearly enough wear on those beautiful irons, go out there and fuck em up a bit. What is the rhino-guard looking material the smith is in? Looks pebbly and cool as fuck.
I think revolvers are cool and perfect EDC, but that is also because I will happily take a lever action into battle. Something something, dying cooler than the person who killed you.
Imagine the morale boost to those around you. We don't still talk about Jack Churchill because he used modern arms to destroy the Nazis.
As for PCCs, I definitely think they have their place. But I think you SHOULD diversify.
Every home should have a pistol, a rifle (in a capable caliber), and a shotgun. Double points if each grown up member of the family has their own individual guns that meet that criteria. A PCC lets you kind of fudge the first two together. Making a slightly worse version than either of the two on their own, but in one package.
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Also, which one of you was it that buys the milled and cut revolver frames for cheap and then remakes them? I got some questions.
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Chrome lined. Nitrited is fine buuuttt chrome lining is the standard for 80+ years for a reason.
If someone tries to sell you a stainless steel AR barrel, RUN. Unless you're shooting some insane long ranges in matches all a stainless barrel does in an AR is rust and become useless.
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Sound tests from Griffin Armament on YouTube. How can subsonic .45 barely be quieter than 5.56?
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Knowing absolutely nothing about this channel and not nearly enough about acoustics; I can tell you left and right ear transducers are a bad testing criteria. The fact there's a 3db difference between the 1m from muzzle readings basically proves it.
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Decibel levels are not really a linear scale.
A one dB difference can be relatively noticable.
As far as the AR is concerned it makes sense that the right side would be a bit louder than the left is you will get more noise from escaping gas through the ejection port.
But none of it really matters in a utoob video because of the way they handle audio.
It's the same reason comparing guitar amp tone on jewtoob is also a waste of time.
A one dB difference can be relatively noticable.
As far as the AR is concerned it makes sense that the right side would be a bit louder than the left is you will get more noise from escaping gas through the ejection port.
But none of it really matters in a utoob video because of the way they handle audio.
It's the same reason comparing guitar amp tone on jewtoob is also a waste of time.
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if you're wanting the easy answer and easy cleaning, get chrome-lined - if you're buying a new barrel, try and stick with 4150 CMV steel, not 4140 or some mystery meat that isn't spelled out. if you want the modern answer, one of the many nitriding methods on the market done properly can serve for a very long time, although doesn't like being left caked in mud or carbon for long periods. unlined barrels are usually secret sauce in some way and the shooter has a distinct purpose that chrome-lining takes away from (since traditional hard chrome lining is difficult to make perfectly concentric or sharply defined in the bore's lands/grooves).
@DocAwe more or less said what i wanted to say where there is going to be sound mostly from where gas is escaping, and a much lesser extent where the mechanics of the rifle are creating noise. decibels are a very poor rating for how quiet something is when it comes to explosives - the sound signature is a very different pitch than typical acoustic level harmonics that speakers or humans produce and is more akin to industrial muffler testing for vehicles or generators.
the sound is a pressure wave that propagates at high speed and displaces air in a specific pattern. some of this displacement is perceived as sound, but the majority is literally just pressure (blast). i've shot suppressed weapons in a variety of circumstances over many years and a suppressed .45 ACP is very perceptibly quiet... from around 7-10 meters and beyond in an open area, because it's pressure wave dissipates very readily and it's often not "sharp" enough to make it through materials like walls unless they are acoustically sensitive like naked drywall, metal panels, or plywood. clay walls absorb it and brick muffles it but it travels further.
they should modify their microphone setup for multiple microphones at varying distances to illustrate the pressure wave travel.
speaking from experience, i have used a suppressed .45 ACP for sentry removal many years ago and people nearby did react significantly to the shot.
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I do see your point with the 10mm comparison, and as you said, it's good to know how to handle both. It feels a lot however anymore that people don't want to practice with revolvers, even though there are millions out there, meaning in a SHTF situation, there may be a very real chance you're stuck with one.
Really with revolvers (and lever actions) they just aren't broken. You may have less rounds, but there's just so much less to fuck up with. They'll kill just as well as they did 100 years ago
I am working on the shotgun situation soon lol. As for PCC's, it's good to have, if only to share ammo with your side arm. It's a lot easier to get ahold of 9mm in a lot of cases than rifle rounds. And store large quantities of it.
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If I got shot directly in the chest with a .38spl I'd die.
Application dependent. If you are shooting tons of "inaccurate" rounds rapid fire you'll want chrome. If you're reaming the same hole in a piece of paper you'll probably want a nitrided barrel. I'm not sure of the lore behind TiN barrels but I was surprised to see them done in TiN since usually it is done for tool inserts like mill/drill bits, reamers, broaches etc.
TL;DR both have pros and cons, you'll have to see what you'd rather have. Personally I'd opt for nitrided as it's typically cheaper and more than just a few thou of plating inside a barrel. Chrome is more heat resistant and stands up to high cyclic rate abuse better.
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Even with a snubbie, that is still very much the case. Common load is a 158 grain lead hollow
point going at +p speeds- the FBI load, which they used for a long time for a good reason, it just works.
It brings on another point, people talk about power a lot. For a bear or even a elk, you have a good point. In a self defense situation, against a fragile human? The humble .22LR has been known and will kill a person. The bigger and heavier you get just gives more assurance that it will. It's why I'm confident carrying a revolver in .38. As long as I place my shots, I'm golden.
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I'm reminded of the Bella Twin .22LR legend where apparently a bear was killed with a .22lr to the brain.
That said, I wouldn't want to bet my life on .22LR killing even a person immediately but when you get into drug induced invulnerability where seven or eight 9mm rounds to the sternum aren't stopping the threat then I don't think there's a gun that can do that job any faster.
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Well drugs change the game entirely. You just need quantity like a 17-20 round 9mm, critical hits to stuff like the heart or head if you have a 5 round revolver like me, or just to get out of there. For normal cases however, power matters less. I do agree i wouldn't put too much trust in a 22 even in a normal situation, but if it's 22 or nothing, I'm taking that 22, every time. They'll go down through sheer quantity.
And yes, that legend about the bear is badass. Now that is a absolute d20 roll, he had to have hit it in the eye or something with the 22, but it does say something about the masterful craftsmanship of such a old round to even be capable of such a feat.
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nitrided barrels (nitrocarburizing treatments that have many trade names) is not a "plating" process. it is a surface treatment that penetrates and diffuses into the upper few microns (yes, microns) of barrel steel using a variety of variations on chemical salt baths and other processes. it is arguably better than traditional chrome plating in most ways other than actual literal debris in the bore.
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I am aware of this, I was comparing nitriding to chrome lining in that sentence. Maybe the context just makes more sense in my brain.
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I asked my friend about his opinion.
He actually owns guns (unlike me who just has crossbows because I am stuck in a despotic shithole north of the States. I have hunted with guns though but they are not mine).
He said the following: If you are shooting military surplus ammo (especially Warsaw Pact or WW2), 100%. Otherwise, its nice to have but not essential.
Moose poachers up here are known to use .22 long rifle to kill moose. Sure one round will not kill but dozens will bring down the beast.
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I am sorry. I was talking with fiance just last night about how weird it is to not be able to. There was a video of a dude who had spent thousands on a "Resident Evil" airsoft loadout with like, full steel replicas of Berettas, and TMPs, and so on. Think he was out of Japan. And we both got to thinking how lucky it is to live in a place where I can see a badass gun in a movie or something, and then just go and buy the real thing, provided I have the cash. Canada will be uncucked eventually, the whole world will. This pussyfeels shit will not last, it is unsustainable. It may feel like a train barreling non-stop 1000MPH, but physics wins out in the end and it will crash.
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That would be a significantly better than their current setup. 1m, 3m, and 5-9m.
Decibels are a logarithmic measurement. A 3 dB difference is twice(1.995) as loud.
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Hoffman Tactical has released his SL9 AR9 lower with DIY LRBHO functionality
There is now an interview with none other than Jorge Leon, the Venezuelan man who in 1987 invented what is now known today as The Glock Switch
AN-94 in use with Russian combatant
KP-9 with 3D Printed Glock mag adapter
Trigger and Trigger Accessory enthusiast S3 has announced that he has refined the design of his upcoming SFFA DIAS to not need supports when printing and the creation of an AR-10 option
Early renderings of a Bullpup UMP project
A second FGC-9 has been seized in an Ecuadorian prison, yellow receiver
Either the receiver on that AR is really small or that is an extended USGI style magazine
MAC but Fudd
Concept for PDW Style stock for AK's by Artist 7N39AP
PPSh in Myanmar
There is now an interview with none other than Jorge Leon, the Venezuelan man who in 1987 invented what is now known today as The Glock Switch
AN-94 in use with Russian combatant
KP-9 with 3D Printed Glock mag adapter
Trigger and Trigger Accessory enthusiast S3 has announced that he has refined the design of his upcoming SFFA DIAS to not need supports when printing and the creation of an AR-10 option
Early renderings of a Bullpup UMP project
A second FGC-9 has been seized in an Ecuadorian prison, yellow receiver
Either the receiver on that AR is really small or that is an extended USGI style magazine
MAC but Fudd
Concept for PDW Style stock for AK's by Artist 7N39AP
PPSh in Myanmar