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What sort of accessories?
you're lucky to get the original box and cleaning jag with rod, but it'll have a new OEM mag in the wrap from IMI and a manual. the sights are basic 3 dots on most with a couple being meprolights. from the 941F's i saw, a couple have holster wear and i'm told that some were demo guns or used by security guards overseas prior to import; don't know the veracity of that.
 
you're lucky to get the original box and cleaning jag with rod, but it'll have a new OEM mag in the wrap from IMI and a manual. the sights are basic 3 dots on most with a couple being meprolights. from the 941F's i saw, a couple have holster wear and i'm told that some were demo guns or used by security guards overseas prior to import; don't know the veracity of that.
Can confirm at least the overseas security guard thing. I have worked with many holster makers in an attempt to get a kydex made for a true, no rails long OG jericho. There are slight contour differences between the different releases/years. All of the ones I have gotten just have a slight wrongness to them that don't make them fit quite perfect like other guns I've used with Kydex. Right now, I carry him in a purpose made leather holster.
A few of them mentioned that they get TONS of requests from overseas, seems a lot of private contractors and genuinely serious security firms exclusively use the Jericho.
However, apparently finding a blue gun of the different OG jerichos is near impossible, and no one wants to seem to let someone hang onto theirs in order to craft one. I don't blame em, I didn't. Haven't found someone I trust/close enough to hand deliver so my baby doesn't disappear in the mail.
 
private contractors and genuinely serious security firms exclusively use the Jericho.
i can vouch for the CZ-75 or variations being very popular with private military contractors along with SIGs and 1911s, and a lesser extent the CZ99 and chinese clone (with the MP762 in 7.62x25mm Tok which if a very mean cartridge in a SIG pattern automatic with 15 shot mags). i dont know much about the armed security outside of some banks and places where they typically carry long arms like AKs or shotguns of one kind or another (Malaysian bank guards used to have the USAS-12 as a option).
 
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Well, that's because the CZ-75 pattern is the greatest battlefield implement ever designed, after pants with easy zippers to piss and not stabbing the guy on your team.
The fact that the Czechs made a NATO caliber pistol under Soviet rule never ceases to amuse me. Their gun design was top tier trolling.
 
The fact that the Czechs made a NATO caliber pistol under Soviet rule never ceases to amuse me. Their gun design was top tier trolling.
It was designed for the export market exclusively. and the reason it was copied so extensively was because the patents were considered state secrets and thus CZ could not defend their rights in other countries lest they learn of the existence of these secret patents (on pistols the Czechs would sell you anyway) it doesn't make sense but its what happened. just more commie non-sense.

the CZ-75 was only used by Czech forces after the 1989-90 revolution that over threw communism in that country. before that their pistols were in 7.62x25 and 9x18 for Warsaw pact logistics commonality.
 
It was designed for the export market exclusively. and the reason it was copied so extensively was because the patents were considered state secrets and thus CZ could not defend their rights in other countries lest they learn of the existence of these secret patents (on pistols the Czechs would sell you anyway) it doesn't make sense but its what happened. just more commie non-sense.

the CZ-75 was only used by Czech forces after the 1989-90 revolution that over threw communism in that country. before that their pistols were in 7.62x25 and 9x18 for Warsaw pact logistics commonality.
Eastern Bloc insanity never ceases to amuse me.
 
I've heard really good things about AAC ammo available from Palmetto State Armory, and it's some of the cheapest I've seen. Especially their 7.62x51mm/.308 ammo. And it's not your typical 150gr FMJ that you normally find with cheaper .308 ammo. They have 168gr and 175gr open tip for under twenty bucks per box of 20.
PSA is making a serious run at disrupting the budget ammo market like they are for firearms. They are now making their own primers which is a major step in the ammo manufacturing market. They are looking to go head to head with Winchester and Remington for cheap ammo. They look to be in it for the long haul and are investing heavily in capacity.

This coupled with a specific targeting of the commercial market over DoD and LEO contracts when the big names are doing the opposite means that they have a huge opportunity to capture market share.
 
They are now making their own primers which is a major step in the ammo manufacturing market.
there rumors they might partner with ATK to open a lead smelter in Mexico for bullets as well, bringing back the ability to 100% manufacture components from "friend shored" countries if not within the US proper.
 
PSA is making a serious run at disrupting the budget ammo market like they are for firearms. They are now making their own primers which is a major step in the ammo manufacturing market. They are looking to go head to head with Winchester and Remington for cheap ammo. They look to be in it for the long haul and are investing heavily in capacity.

This coupled with a specific targeting of the commercial market over DoD and LEO contracts when the big names are doing the opposite means that they have a huge opportunity to capture market share.
Fucking love PSA, and really fucking love AAC ammo. Haven't gotten a bad box yet, price is good. When I need specialty ammo, I get it. When I need just some ammo, I always go through AAC if I can. If all the other ammo companies are cool taking the request to produce less stateside civvy ammo and instead focus on the LEO/Military market, fuck em. The other big ammo companies are commercial first, civvy second.
AAC is civ only, go fuck yourself, we want american made bullets just for the John Q. Everybody that aren't at risk for sudden shortages.

We don't have a lot of new US contenders making a name, but mark my words. PSA is going to be up there with the Remingtons, Colts, S&Ws here before too long.
 
PSA rules. Their mission statement is to get arms into the hands of as many Americans as possible.

Anyone get hands on the micro dagger? The comped configuration seems cheap enough to play with and see if it's viable and useful.

Also really dumb but I love that they are making the lowers in a wide range of colors.
 
Honestly I was against getting an AR because "everyone else has them" but I do understand the concept of standardization to a point. I still personally prefer other models but I must concede that anyone looking to buy or build something might want to consider something that accepts AR components.

Hence why my "weird" rifle is going to be a JAKL.

sarco got some nice pistols looking for a new home that i think might tickle someone's fancy.

Jericho 941F (late 90's manufacture, IMI marked): https://www.sarcoinc.com/imi-jericho-941f/

and the Jericho compact 9mm in stainless (imported by Magnum Research as the Baby Eagle): https://www.sarcoinc.com/imi-desert-eagle-baby-eagle/

it doesn't say it, but i have it on good authority that it's literally one crate with very few accessories from a distributor clearing inventory, handling wear but most are unfired other than the factory.

in other news, Walther and Winchester sold a bunch of stuff to CDNN so expect that to pop up along with OEM Ruger mags. Botach is getting a batch of LEO surplus 1st and 2nd gen EOtechs as well.

Ohhh those are some good looking Jerichos

PSA is making a serious run at disrupting the budget ammo market like they are for firearms. They are now making their own primers which is a major step in the ammo manufacturing market. They are looking to go head to head with Winchester and Remington for cheap ammo. They look to be in it for the long haul and are investing heavily in capacity.

This coupled with a specific targeting of the commercial market over DoD and LEO contracts when the big names are doing the opposite means that they have a huge opportunity to capture market share.

Awesome news. The more stuff you make yourself the more you can can handle market fluctuations and control costs

there rumors they might partner with ATK to open a lead smelter in Mexico for bullets as well, bringing back the ability to 100% manufacture components from "friend shored" countries if not within the US proper.

Please God let it be so

Fucking love PSA, and really fucking love AAC ammo. Haven't gotten a bad box yet, price is good. When I need specialty ammo, I get it. When I need just some ammo, I always go through AAC if I can. If all the other ammo companies are cool taking the request to produce less stateside civvy ammo and instead focus on the LEO/Military market, fuck em. The other big ammo companies are commercial first, civvy second.
AAC is civ only, go fuck yourself, we want american made bullets just for the John Q. Everybody that aren't at risk for sudden shortages.

We don't have a lot of new US contenders making a name, but mark my words. PSA is going to be up there with the Remingtons, Colts, S&Ws here before too long.

Agreed, PSA is rapidly becoming a a big force in the US gun market.

Pretty soon they'll have their own handgun, shotgun, AR, AK and "Kirkland ACR" lineups all filled out, PLUS suppressors, plus ammo.

Good for AAC being civvy only.

I cannot wait to see what PSA does on the suppressor space soon enough.

PSA rules. Their mission statement is to get arms into the hands of as many Americans as possible.

Anyone get hands on the micro dagger? The comped configuration seems cheap enough to play with and see if it's viable and useful.

Also really dumb but I love that they are making the lowers in a wide range of colors.
Yep, PSA is Based and Gun-pilled (and ammo, suppressor and accessory pilled as well)

My Dagger build was finished Thursday. Compact lower and threaded slide for $229 shipped to me, plus a zipper carrying case.

I got a Glock 19 Gen 3 (essentially) with a threaded barrel, optics cut Sniper green slide, grey lower, all made for actual human hands for $229 all up.

Not too damn bad.
 
PSA rules. Their mission statement is to get arms into the hands of as many Americans as possible.

Anyone get hands on the micro dagger? The comped configuration seems cheap enough to play with and see if it's viable and useful.

Also really dumb but I love that they are making the lowers in a wide range of colors.
It's amazing how many different designs PSA makes now. AR's of every caliber conceivable for a reasonable price, an ever-expanding line of AK's and now Glock gen 3 clones that take normal Glock parts. And it's all made in the US. I don't know how they do it.
 
And it's all made in the US. I don't know how they do it.
unfortunately it's not all sunshine and rainbows, while most PSA rifles (uppers mostly that i've seen) have been alright, there's definitely some issues with at least the 1st gen AK i handled as well as their crack at an MP5 (which i'm very familiar with as an H&K armorer). for AR's the most common issue i've encountered was over-torque on the barrel nut which can make swapping a barrel a chore, and with an aluminum upper can lead to over stress and perhaps even failure in extreme circumstances.

they aren't Hesse levels of bad and are a cut above crapshoots like the Bushmaster Carbon-15 exploding, or the DPMS aluminum FSB debacle (that cost DPMS both a contract and $$$ in recalls). there was the bullshit with Eagle Arms fucking up the entire lower receiver assembly or when Olympic Arms changed hands and destroyed their reputation overnight with contracting green mountain for their OA and KP barrels and giving them the wrong specs, then reaming them anyway, et c.
 
unfortunately it's not all sunshine and rainbows, while most PSA rifles (uppers mostly that i've seen) have been alright, there's definitely some issues with at least the 1st gen AK i handled as well as their crack at an MP5 (which i'm very familiar with as an H&K armorer). for AR's the most common issue i've encountered was over-torque on the barrel nut which can make swapping a barrel a chore, and with an aluminum upper can lead to over stress and perhaps even failure in extreme circumstances.

they aren't Hesse levels of bad and are a cut above crapshoots like the Bushmaster Carbon-15 exploding, or the DPMS aluminum FSB debacle (that cost DPMS both a contract and $$$ in recalls). there was the bullshit with Eagle Arms fucking up the entire lower receiver assembly or when Olympic Arms changed hands and destroyed their reputation overnight with contracting green mountain for their OA and KP barrels and giving them the wrong specs, then reaming them anyway, et c.
Their AR's are mostly fine in my experience and I heard their AK's got better with each successive generation. Also most people aren't going to bother swapping a barrel on a cheaper upper.
 
marking .223 chambers as 5.56
two batches of USMC rifles were caught with that, yes and returned to DPMS, this was back when MARSOC was still a thing and was a competitive quote since they needed better carbine weapons and the XM4E1 was still in prototyping. the M4's burst wasn't good enough for Raider teams or VBSS, and the other options were to continue with the CAR-15 or beat up XM177's which was rejected for money reasons and the Navy refusing to share CAR-15 inventories, made keeping the M3A1 in inventory for a lot longer than you would expect. while you had some armorer making M16A1E1 lower + M4 upper abominations on the downlow, DPMS sold Panther Arms commercial uppers with DPMS MG lowers from their military export line to the USMC. the commercial uppers had .223 chambers, not 5.56mm NATO. this didn't immediately raise red flags because at the time, Colt and Bushmaster and Armalite all sometimes marked their rifles .223 on the receiver even though they were actually 5.56mm NATO on the barrel and it wasn't until later that they fixed the markings on the receiver to match the barrel.

then things got spicy with chamber pressures and DPMS fucking ate it, dead-lining their DoD and Saudi contracts on the spot. this was all early 90's so i'm not sure if the story is exactly what I remember (I was US Army and this is second hand mostly).

as an aside, the DPMS LR-308 series, while kind of confusing for piecing together a rifle, did compete very well against Armalite's AR-10 and the uppers themselves were fine - it's DPMS's screw up rather than the individual Panther Arms upper (which was still kinda meh on quality). to my knowledge the DPMS M203, M203 PI, and DAX were all fine as well, so take this story more of lessons learned in management failures and quality control rather than individual product quality issues.
 
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Apparently this pistol was made from the propeller of a Japanese bomber, and is located at the USS Kidd museum:
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Very Fallout looking.
 
the CZ-75 was only used by Czech forces after the 1989-90 revolution that over threw communism in that country. before that their pistols were in 7.62x25 and 9x18 for Warsaw pact logistics commonality.
I always wonder what things would have been like if they had made a version of the CZ75 in 7.62mm Tokarev, as a replacement for the CZ52 pistol. Warsaw Pact mandated a move towards 9mm Makarov for pistols, but with how nonstandard stuff was in general maybe they could have gotten away with sticking with the old pistol cartridge.
Can you imagine? The sweetness of a CZ75 with 15+1 rounds of 7.62mm Tokarev

They are now making their own primers which is a major step in the ammo manufacturing market.
there rumors they might partner with ATK to open a lead smelter in Mexico for bullets as well,
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