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Boney said:
I'm fairly certain you exclusively use social media to inform your world view on guns and likely don't shoot enough to have the experience under your belt to speak on any of this. PSA guns are bad. Their ammo is great. The company is ethical. None of those things have to effect you if you don't want them too.
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PSA are spiritual jews. You however, are a spiritual nigger.
 
A buddy of mine and me to a lesser extent use psa ar's to see if we like a given idea or sometimes a odd caliber. It's how I decided that no a 7.62x39 ar was not in fact awesome and really only kind of fed and only with brass. Found that out for about 200 on a sale upper and didn't get a more expensive option.

The 300 blk experiments stalled with a dremel and a dream that mostly works after 3 revisions so it's a mixed bag. However still around 500 in that little bundle of misery so it's hard to cry too much. Now to be fair it has taken a few hogs and the good sub sonic hunting ammo is more effective than I thought it would be it just has cycling issues.

The pistol 5.56 ar messing about on the other hand went quite well and I'm looking around at somewhat better alternatives.

TLDR psa cheap and way better than Bear Creak.
 
Rainbow Idiot said:
A buddy of mine and me to a lesser extent use psa ar's to see if we like a given idea or sometimes a odd caliber. It's how I decided that no a 7.62x39 ar was not in fact awesome and really only kind of fed and only with brass. Found that out for about 200 on a sale upper and didn't get a more expensive option.

The 300 blk experiments stalled with a dremel and a dream that mostly works after 3 revisions so it's a mixed bag. However still around 500 in that little bundle of misery so it's hard to cry too much. Now to be fair it has taken a few hogs and the good sub sonic hunting ammo is more effective than I thought it would be it just has cycling issues.

The pistol 5.56 ar messing about on the other hand went quite well and I'm looking around at somewhat better alternatives.

TLDR psa cheap and way better than Bear Creak.
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I like this concept, and it made me think of watches in the same way. "Bro that Seiko 5 is the cheapest automatic made you need to get a Rolex Swiss made or nothing" is a retarded fucking take and yet the same exact thing is said about guns constantly. Not everyone needs a mechanical toolwatch, or 200 meter water resistance, or anything a Casio World Time can't do PERFECTLY for 30 bucks. Grabbing a PSA as a plinker you MAY have to use as a defensive weapon is a completely valid option.

Just get what works for you. PSA does no questions asked RMA. If you are a person who won't reee about sending your rifle into PSA for repairs if anything happens, there's not much reason NOT to buy a PSA and beat it to shit with normal use. If you'd rather buy once cry once, there are plenty of "Rolex" options you can buy.
 
My issue with PSA is that we all know their assembly and QC are terribly unreliable, and sometimes the components themselves are poorly made, and some people buy PSA's products believing they'll be good defense weapons. It doesn't matter if the gun can go 5k rounds before needing to be rebarrelled if the bolt breaks, or the handguard or gas block screws come loose, or if the rifle doesn't feed reliably, or the pic rail is out of spec, etc. They're selling poorly made firearms.

Sure, most PSA products will go bang and likely only need minimum work if there's a problem, but there are quite a lot of garbage firearms being dumped on their customers. That's fine if it's just something you take out once or twice a year to magdump into trash or plink at soup cans, but not fine for someone betting their life on it. Some people buy these guns, put 2 or 3 mags through it and believe they're "good to go" when they're really not.

We've all heard how great PSA's warranty is, but I've heard plenty of people complain about how bad PSA's CS is. Problematic guns being returned with no fixes, guns being returned with not only no fixes but new problems, guns sent for repairs that sit at PSA for months with no communication from PSA, etc. I'm sure most people don't experience this, but plenty of other people do.

Every company ships out a lemon once in a while, but PSA ships out a whole lot of lemons for known reasons, and that's why I don't recommend PSA firearms to anyone looking for a serious self defense weapon. Thank you for reading my effortpost.
 
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VorpalAnvil- said:
to train with to use
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Samhain said:
take out once or twice a year to magdump into trash or plink at soup cans
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The general populace doesn't train, they're like Kyle Rittenhouse that gets put into a bad situation with an unlubed M&P Sport. You can stomp your feet all you want but they aren't going to the range to practice precision, consistency or tactical reloads but they still deserve something that fires at least half of one magazine when it counts and the only threat to that is Turkshit ammunition.
 
VorpalAnvil- said:
If you want a range toy that you drunkenly blast a few rounds into the air with on the 4th/New years, fine. If you want an actual rifle to train with to use for defensive purposes/SHTF etc maybe people should consider not buying the literal cheapest option available.
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There's a difference between, "I haven't used this gun in 10 years I need to now because I'm getting robbed" and "I need to drop about 5 retards for the 4th time this week" quality.
Samhain said:
Is this the one you're referencing?
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Yes. There's another one that I can't find off the top of my head.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
something that fires at least half of one magazine when it counts
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If that's the argument we're going for, then you could argue Bear Creek Arsenal is just as good as PSA. The average BCA AR will at least make it to 30 rounds before it starts falling apart. But nobody here is going to suggest that anyone buy a BCA because it's cheaper than a PSA despite being just as good.

The sentiment that the average gun buyer buys a gun and shoots a single mag through it (if they ever shoot it at all) before putting it the closet or dresser drawer is correct, though. But it makes them feel safer, in case someone ever breaks in or whatever. The AR they own might be a $400 piece of junk that might jam when it matters most, but for the time being, it makes them feel safer.
 
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I think there's alot of tards in this thread who are incapable of comprehending that there are many options in between 400$ PSA garbage and 3000$ Knights Armament uber gucciness
 
I think this all comes down to the fact that nobody takes your personal safety more seriously than you. If you buy junk and don’t train, that’s on you. Are you more worried about the stakes or the odds of defending yourself?

Buying a guitar doesn’t make you a musician.
 
Samhain said:
The sentiment that the average gun buyer buys a gun and shoots a single mag through it (if they ever shoot it at all) before putting it the closet or dresser drawer is correct, though. But if makes them feel safer, in case someone ever breaks in or whatever. The AR they own might be a $400 piece of junk that might jam when it matters most, but for the time being, it makes them feel safer.
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That's the entire point, and breaking your fingers typing about it doesn't change that cheap bastards and niggers will kill people with Hi-Points just as quickly as anyone else in advantageous situations or freak coincidences.
I hate to repeat myself but I'm sure Kyle Rittenhouse learned to lube his AR due to the stoppage he had to fix, and probably also learned that he might want a better gun now that he's a notable person.
Pretend To Imagine said:
Buying a guitar doesn’t make you a musician.
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I'd like to think nobody here has to rely on a PSA to defend themselves but if that's all they can afford to run I don't think they consider themself a Tier 1 Operator on par with the doorkickers in Fallujah.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
I like this concept, and it made me think of watches in the same way. "Bro that Seiko 5 is the cheapest automatic made you need to get a Rolex Swiss made or nothing" is a retarded fucking take and yet the same exact thing is said about guns constantly. Not everyone needs a mechanical toolwatch, or 200 meter water resistance, or anything a Casio World Time can't do PERFECTLY for 30 bucks. Grabbing a PSA as a plinker you MAY have to use as a defensive weapon is a completely valid option.
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At least for the AR platform it is relatively simple that you can build one from parts/rigging. Good luck making a watch movement from scratch.
VorpalAnvil- said:
I think there's alot of tards in this thread who are incapable of comprehending that there are many options in between 400$ PSA garbage and 3000$ Knights Armament uber gucciness
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Even the best weapon without maintenance will fail. I think people need to realize there's the following groups:
Piece of shit (Taurus, L85, FAMAS, INSAS)
Cheap and you don't care if it breaks (HI-Point, PSA, SCCY)
Cheap and won't break really with sporadic maintenance (S&W 500, G3, SVD, AK outside burgerland)
Expensive and won't break easily (KA, AEK)
Expensive and requires precise maintenance (SCAR, AN-94, ADS, MDX)
Phased Plasma rifle in the 40 watt range (G11, Styer ACR, Pancor Jackhammer)
 
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Taurus makes an FNC in 30 carbine
 
Boney said:
I'm fairly certain you exclusively use social media to inform your world view on guns and likely don't shoot enough to have the experience under your belt to speak on any of this. PSA guns are bad. Their ammo is great. The company is ethical. None of those things have to effect you if you don't want them too.
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Their guns are, Mostly, just fine and go bang.

What's bad is final QC (not all the time) and checkout and certain components being assembled incorrectly or being slightly out of spec leading to tolerance stacking that causes issues.

I've watched their factory walkthroughs and yep..... South Carolina workforce mass producing stuff. You're going to get errors at their scale unless you hyper automate it to reduce human input or you have someone spend 2-3x the amount of time per rifle/firearm to make extra care and those costs money.

How many would be getting PSA if their prices went up by 50% immediately?

Suddenly a $500 AR is $750....

Now I'll say that their SABER ARs and JAKLs should essentially be 100% out of the factory and they even say those guns are made by a special team..... I'm not sure they mean "special" or specially trained.... we'll see. The issues I've seen with the JAKL weren't assembly errors they were parts not being made to spec errors. Haven't really seen a mega fucked SABER

MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
I like this concept, and it made me think of watches in the same way. "Bro that Seiko 5 is the cheapest automatic made you need to get a Rolex Swiss made or nothing" is a retarded fucking take and yet the same exact thing is said about guns constantly. Not everyone needs a mechanical toolwatch, or 200 meter water resistance, or anything a Casio World Time can't do PERFECTLY for 30 bucks. Grabbing a PSA as a plinker you MAY have to use as a defensive weapon is a completely valid option.

Just get what works for you. PSA does no questions asked RMA. If you are a person who won't reee about sending your rifle into PSA for repairs if anything happens, there's not much reason NOT to buy a PSA and beat it to shit with normal use. If you'd rather buy once cry once, there are plenty of "Rolex" options you can buy.
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Agreed. Shit you can just buy a PSA lower and go insane on an upper too.

Speaking of the watch analogy, Rolex has released movements that beat themselves to death due to a QC error and no one shit all over them. Oh and their newest generation of movements actually couldn't keep in timing spec for the first year or so due to another manufacturing error.

Samhain said:
Sure, most PSA products will go bang and likely only need minimum work if there's a problem, but there are quite a lot of garbage firearms being dumped on their customers. That's fine if it's just something you take out once or twice a year to magdump into trash or plink at soup cans, but not fine for someone betting their life on it. Some people buy these guns, put 2 or 3 mags through it and believe they're "good to go" when they're really not.
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Quite a lot is an extreme overstatement. You see autists getting asshurt over an out of spec gas port or someone getting a legit QC fuck up and that suddenly becomes the norm.

Meanwhile Remington literally made trash for nearly 20 years and they're still getting passes.

Kimber makes revolvers that might seize up and become inoperable and people still jerk them off.

The Ruger American was a bad design and was killed in less than 5 years.... People still buy Ruger semi auto pistols.

WhoBusTank69 said:
The general populace doesn't train, they're like Kyle Rittenhouse that gets put into a bad situation with an unlubed M&P Sport. You can stomp your feet all you want but they aren't going to the range to practice precision, consistency or tactical reloads but they still deserve something that fires at least half of one magazine when it counts and the only threat to that is Turkshit ammunition.
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Agreed. The amount of people that fire more than 1 magazine in a self defense situation is extremely low.

♂CANAM productions♂ said:
At least for the AR platform it is relatively simple that you can build one from parts/rigging. Good luck making a watch movement from scratch.

Even the best weapon without maintenance will fail. I think people need to realize there's the following groups:
Piece of shit (Taurus, L85, FAMAS, INSAS)
Cheap and you don't care if it breaks (HI-Point, PSA, SCCY)
Cheap and won't break really with sporadic maintenance (S&W 500, G3, SVD, AK outside burgerland)
Expensive and won't break easily (KA, AEK)
Expensive and requires precise maintenance (SCAR, AN-94, ADS, MDX)
Phased Plasma rifle in the 40 watt range (G11, Styer ACR, Pancor Jackhammer)
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Agreed. Even then, if your bargain AR gets through 5 magazines of cheap as shit steel case / lowest quality brass case out of the box without issue..... You're probably A-OK for 5,000 more rounds. Take it home, break it down , clean and lubricate and you're set.

Saying otherwise to quite literally 95% of gun owners in the USA is asinine and reeks of "MUH MILSPEC COLT M4 IS THE BEST EVUURRR CUZ MILSPEC"

Eg, a cousin of mine wants an AR. His budget is just about $650. For him, a PSA premium AR kit or a S&W M&P 15 Gen 3 is absolutely fine. I doubt that rifle will see 1,000 rounds in it's entire life.

Furthermore, a PSA lower will absolutely host a $1900 DD upper or $2200 KAC upper just fine.

Speaking of Out of Spec, USGI M4A1s absolutely can be on the very edge of "in spec", shoot 4 MoA and still get issued. They can have Bolts that slipped past QC and will shear locking lugs at 1,500 rounds. Overlarge gas ports so they are over gassed to shit, and so on. Still MILSPEC.
 
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I'm not a big fan of modernized, tacticalized lever-guns, but an integrally suppressed one in .45-70?
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I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Falcos_Commisar said:
Now I'll say that their SABER ARs and JAKLs should essentially be 100% out of the factory and they even say those guns are made by a special team..... I'm not sure they mean "special" or specially trained.... we'll see. The issues I've seen with the JAKL weren't assembly errors they were parts not being made to spec errors. Haven't really seen a mega fucked SABER
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Th Sabre and JAKL lines are made by the same kind of apes that make any PSA product. The JAKLs are range toys at best, and the Sabre line has experienced the same kind of problems any PSA rifle line experiences. You want to see a fucked up Sabre? Here you go:


Falcos_Commisar said:
Quite a lot is an extreme overstatement. You see autists getting asshurt over an out of spec gas port or someone getting a legit QC fuck up and that suddenly becomes the norm.
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You're free to downplay how complacent PSA is over the quality of their products, but the reality is they churn out low quality firearms.
 
BohrokSwarms said:
First I was told to get a PSA AR. Now everyone says PSA is shit.
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Ignore the retards.
They bitch and moan about quality when in reality they are wrong on every level.
There are machine guns from ww2 still changing hands and being shot that were made in the most decrepit and dogshit factories from almost a hundred years ago.

The only qualifier on whether a gun is going to last is if you know how to operate and maintain it properly, just like any other tool you might use.
If you really want to determine a firearms quality you can ignore all the buzzwords and focus solely on the materials used in it's construction, the type of steel and plastic, the method used to hold the assembled rifle together and other such factual observations.
 
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