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I feel personally attacked, lol. At least it hides my gun from the deer better.
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I guess in this instance, you have out-autisted me with the self fab. I have bits and pieces'd some of my favorite high end swiss movements together out of spares, parts lots, and lucky OEM ebay dials and hands and stuff. I've done the same but for far cheaper with the chinko and Jap movements. My point being, guns and watches are fucking autistic and usually have a lot of overlap.
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....... Buying a 5.45mm rifle in the USA in 2024 is not a great idea tbh.
That ammo is stupid expensive and still pretty rare.
Stick with God's own AK caliber, 7.62x39
WPB Jack for a tiny bit more than a WASR with FAR nicer furniture and a cool receiver mark
Let's make some poly rubies at home
Excellent idea although I'm not sure why you're recommending a 14.5 pin and weld?
Having the ability to eventually mount a suppressor or any other muzzle device absolutely wins out of a pure M4 clone and an extra 1.5 inches of barrel.
Selitta will absolutely sell you a Swiss movement that's a 99.5% clone of a ETA and ETA will still sell you Quartz movements.
Miyota (caliber 9015 and godlike 9075) is arguably better than Seiko at this point once you move beyond the NH35/36 (aka 4R movement series) from Seiko.
It's kinda like buying a barrel from FN vs a barrel from Colt for an AR. (Selitta vs ETA)
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Does it take Glock mags?
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What do you guys think about this optic? I really want something with some zoom and flexibility. What do I search on PSA to find more shit like this? I looked up ACOGs but they are like, over a grand minimum.
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Everytime I think you might be finally getting it, you prove to me that you arent.
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Oh God NO
PLEASE don't get a trash tier Chinese optic.
If you want a "good enough optic", Holosun for a red dot or a Primary Arms red dot or SLx tier LPVO with the NOVA dot tech.
Primary Arms groups their optics into:
SLx - Silver
GLx - Gold
PLx - Platinum
Good, better, best and Less expensive, more expensive, MOST expensive.
Texas based company, lifetime warranty (just like Vortex), USA customer service. Optics made on the PRC, Philippines and Japan.
Primary Arms sells their own pretty good optics mounts.
However..... Get a rifle before getting an optic please
Edit: my FFL is selling a good used rifle RIGHT NOW for $450. Aero upper and lower, BCM handguard, BA 16 inch barrel, Toolcraft BCG, B5 Bravo stock, Magpul MBUS Gen 2 sights and a gen 2 pmag. Don't be afraid of a gently used rifle.
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NCSTAR is essentially airsoft gear. If you want something similar to an ACOG on the comparative cheap, I can only recommend the prism optics made by Primary Arms. You have to mount them as close to your eye as you can but they're damn nice.
If you want a place with lots of sales, I recommend OpticsPlanet so long as you triple check that the product is actually in stock.
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Hell the new GLx 1x Prism has something like 20 FEET of eye relief.
It's ridiculously good.
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Im gonna try to explain this one last time. Lets say you do in fact go buy a 500$ garbage rod, using your entire budget. Youre gonna need a sling. Sling and mounting hardware is 50-100$. Mags are a consumable and you need more than the 1 that comes in the box. Gen2 PMAGs are regularly on sale for 8-9$ ea, so you buy 10 of them, after shipping and tax, 100$. Rule of thumb on optics is that you need to spend 50% or more the cost of the rifle to get an optic that fits the role. The absolute cheapest 1x red dot from a reputable manufacturer is 150$ with no magnification. A more realistic Optic solution for you is the PA 3x prism at 300$. What about ammo, rifle is just a fucking paper weight without it? A case of M193 is around 42-45 CPR if you shop around and get free shipping, so 400$ and change.
You do not have the budget for this. Go get a fucking pistol.
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I mean, it has two 5 star, two 4 star and two 1 star reviews.
Firstly, thank you for the recommendations, but I don’t know what half of what you’re saying means. I know I look like a retard. I don’t care. I have to start somewhere. Explain everything to me like a retard please. What is “LPVO with the NOVA dot tech?” What is dot tech? Second, that gun looks great, no idea what any of the adjectives/acronyms mean, but I was already thinking I want a rifle with an extended handguard that goes along the entire barrel like that. If I saw that in a store for $450 I would want to get it and could pay out of pocket. The problem is, again, I don’t know what those terms mean, so if I see one that’s customized to hell and back and I buy it and post it on here then everyone says I bought a piece of shit, where does that leave me? Finally, I kind of have to at least buy back up iron sights at the same time as I buy a rifle because hardly any of the ones recommended in my budget don’t have any sights or optics.Oh God NO
Also, please explain eye relief. I don’t know what that is either.
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I don't believe in PCCs
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Oh here we go. I'm going to say this, FORGET about an optic until you have a firearm and know how to use the iron sights.
Now, for an AR pattern rifle, the Magpul MBUS flip up polymer sights are all you need. Full stop.
If your AR type rifle has the fun fixed front sight and a carry handle, you don't need sights as they're already on the rifle.
Ok done with sights for now.
A handguard on an AR type rifle does two things these days.
One, keeps your hand from getting burned by a hot barrel
Two, allows for you to attach slings, lights, grips and so on.
A handguard makes no difference if a rifle goes bang and you can swap handguards to your hearts content after you get a rifle, as long as they fit over the gas block.
Modern AR type rifles usually use a Free Float handguard. These attach to the upper receiver and don't contact the barrel, theoretically making the rifle a little bit more accurate.
A standard milspec M4/M4A1 uses a non free float handguard that's two pieces of plastic and aluminum that act like a clam shell over the barrel. Magpul makes a very good and very common replacement handguard that mounts the exact same way that is a bit more ergonomic and has M-LOK slots to mount accessories to.
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING EXCEPT M-LOK SLOT AND PICATINNEY (PIC) RAIL handguards in 2024.
Now, at this point you have 3 gun options.
1. Save you shekels and buy a high quality 2 legit to fucking quit pimp AR for ~$1,000 - $1,400. New or gently used. Look at the advice you've been given.
2. Get a workaday AR brand new from S&W, PSA, maybe IWI or Aero on sale. Again, look at the advice you've been given.
3. Get a Glock 9mm pistol or equivalent from Ruger or Smith and Wesson. New or used.
Do not worry about optics AT ALL until you have a firearm in hand.
Enjoy
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I like this part
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Always look that shit up, thanks to all the search engines out there using AI for summaries it's pretty easy. I'm not on the cutting edge of tech so even I need to
For example, LPVO is Low Powered Variable Optic, which means you can increase magnification on the go at the cost of quality. They can be fairly inexpensive and workable while also coming with a whole mount setup.
Eye relief is the distance between the rear of the scope to your eye in which the full image is still visible, basically you don't have the black fuzzy outline. Short eye relief provides greater quality, long eye relief has flexibility on mounting distance. Red dots have no eye relief so you can mount them farther forward but anything with magnification has some limitations.
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I'll add that in the last ~6-7 years LPVOs have gotten REALLY good. Not all of them but enough where you have a good amount of choices between reticles, focal planes and manufacturers
They used to have meh magnification ranges other issues but nowadays they can have red dot aiming points almost as bright as a legit red dot and very little image distortion.
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because someone prior service will have a decent amount of familiarity on using something of a certain size and weight and has expectations of both point shooting and expected performance at varying distances and through objects. i can directly call out corrections for POI/POA on mk 262 shots from an 18" SPR build without any tools, and i can reliably hit 800 meters targets with a 20" with just iron sights. i can't do the same with a 16" on a whim because it feels different enough to throw me off.
this is a fighting rifle on a budget he wants now with less concern about a suppressor or swapping muzzle devices when that's an upper swap away that might include a flat out more premium upper anyway with rails and all sorts of cool guy options.
if he's familiar and comfortable with an M4, then a basic M4 clone from PSA is a far sight better than being ripped off on a Bear Creek at Walmart or whatever for twice the price at half the performance purely because they offer layaway. for the money asked PSA is extremely hard to beat. if January rolls around and he feels like it isn't performing, you have the warranty service that comes with paying someone else to assemble your AR for you. additionally you can always just replace the upper.
an M4 is the performance goal to meet and throwing more crap on it is a waste of money better spent on ammunition and magazines within possibly the same budget as the rifle. it doesn't sound like it's "i need a rifle" it sounds more like "i do not have a rifle or rifle accessories and need to outfit myself with something i'm familiar with for the money i have when starting from nothing".
quality optics generally cost more than the weapon. NCStar is okay for a .22 plinker or something like a pistol carbine if you like. i would minimally recommend a SIG, Primary Arms, Vortex, or Holosun optic at a minimum. you will find that good quality optics tend to be expensive, and there is a reason why they are generally serialized and kept as a controlled item in the army.
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I was monkey-branching from the buy-it-for-life thread and found out Viper optics are lifetime guaranteed. Anything I should know about 'em? They have such lovely... price points.
Hm, careful there if you're in the US. You get too close to that absolute minimum, and cops can start "suspecting" that it's a SBR that needs to be confiscated. And judges are going to give them a lot of latitude with the estimations they make in the course of their duties.
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they will lose, pin and weld to meet a minimum barrel length is a decades long accepted method directly approved by the BATFE as being a permanent part of the barrel, further, there is a procedural measurement for SBR's and unlawful confiscation even in CA where i wore a badge (and sometimes still do) the rule on "maybe" was risking paperwork and demerit, negligent conduct, or unlawful confiscation. the worst case i know of was the rifle aws destroyed without actually measuring it properly (which is supposed to be handled by a DOJ BOF officer, not the beat cop or BATFE unless they're already on hand). the guy got a 5 figure payout and the confiscating officer was put on permanent jail matron duty until he quit a few years later because his career was sidelined for the screw up.
unless you have some other reason to get pinched, hardly anyone will care. because bringing that to court is a waste of time for everyone involved typically. police resources are tight enough without time wasters and rank and file officers aren't trying to sell a case to a US attourney. they want the bigger fish, the MG conversion shops, the drug dealers that dgaf and can be leaned on for suppliers, dealing networks, prostitution, money laundering, the FFL that's selling off the books, felony possession of all kinds of stuff, et c.
if you're acting stupid with something borderline, or trying to get froggy and fake something that might catch attention, you're doing yourself a disservice.
edit: it's also worth mentioning that for confiscated firearms, determination and return (if you get it returned) varies wildly, but it's typically down to whatever your local DA says, as they're the ones that determine if charges will be pressed or not. if you get a combination of judge, DA/ADA, and local culture then sure, a confiscated gun may as well cease to exist if it's confiscated. in my experience this is a pretty rare circumstance outside of an actual homicide though, as larger investigations that have a goal of confiscation have a lot of legwork behind them to make sure they don't lose the case because of anti-2A ideology. losing cases and wasting time is a career ending move if it happens too often.
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Whats wrong with PCCs? They mate beautifully with a form 1 can.