Mega Rad Gun Thread

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

There is no punishment too severe, nor price for such punishment too high, for dealing justice unto the spider. It’s not about the money, it’s about sending a message. Total Spider Death.

I'm on the other side of the spider thing. If there's a spider hanging around, there's probably bugs it's doing you a favor by eating. Spiders are bros.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Are 3d printed guns a meme? They seem pretty straight forward, does it just take a shitload of time to make? I'm reading up on it and its legal which is fucking hilarious but the consensus is that they only last for a couple magazines worth. Is the accuracy and such still good on them?

They're still a meme/in the experimental phase. PSR of YouTube updates fairly well on his and others projects.

We're a long ways (if ever) from them being competitive with factory guns. The FGC-9 has been used in the Myanmar Civil War (I'm assuming as a 21st century version of the FP-45 Liberator) and some crimes in the EU. But unless you're fighting a military junta or stockpiling for the upcoming EU race war treat them as a fun hobby.

 

[Club Sandwich]

There is no punishment too severe, nor price for such punishment too high, for dealing justice unto the spider. It’s not about the money, it’s about sending a message. Total Spider Death.

I'm on the other side of the spider thing. If there's a spider hanging around, there's probably bugs it's doing you a favor by eating. Spiders are bros.

work out a treaty - if the spiders encroach on some areas like the bed, kitchen, your body, et c, it's life is forfeit. but if it's controlling and eliminating other possibly more dangerous or annoying pests like ants, other spiders, cockroaches, bed bugs, fleas, flies, maggots, et c, then treat them like friendly little sicarios.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

I'm on the other side of the spider thing. If there's a spider hanging around, there's probably bugs it's doing you a favor by eating. Spiders are bros.

Good to see a fellow spider loving brave boy. Spiders are my buddies. I pick em up and strategically reposition them in my house. Moved two out the basement into the kitchen. Better than paper for fruit flies.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Spiders are based and some of them are even cute. You know who loves spiders? Wasps. Most wasps are parasitoid and use spiders as their primary prey.

So really you get to pick team spider or team wasp. I'm team spider - wasps are tolerable long as they don't get aggressive. Spiders go out of their way to be left alone most of the time. Spiders are helpful and eat all kinds of bad bugs. Wasps are...wasps.

To bring it back to guns, I always considered .22 LR like pissing the angriest little wasps. I wouldn't want to be shot to death by .22 LR, and I even watched a video of a guy getting a clean kill on a boar with a .22 LR, right behind the ears.

 

[WelperHelper99]

To bring it back to guns, I always considered .22 LR like pissing the angriest little wasps. I wouldn't want to be shot to death by .22 LR, and I even watched a video of a guy getting a clean kill on a boar with a .22 LR, right behind the ears

Seeing all the 20+ round 22 lr pistols now a days, and now that companies are actually making defensive ammo like Federal:

Yeah, I wouldn't want to take a chance. You're pelting someone to death through sheer weight of fire with a round with basically no recoil, meaning it stays on target.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Seeing all the 20+ round 22 lr pistols now a days, and now that companies are actually making defensive ammo like Federal:
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to take a chance. You're pelting someone to death through sheer weight of fire with a round with basically no recoil, meaning it stays on target.

for .22 the theory is that you can get multiple rounds on target, and multiple are needed in this case. but the problem is this kind of sets up a unrealistic scenario. i dont think in most real world scenarios you have the time needed to get the large number of .22 rounds on target needed in order to reliably stop an attacker. if i had 1 minute of a guy standing still allowing me to empty mag after mag of .22 into them, i would go with that, but if i have just a second or two needed to stop a crack head charging me with a knife, then i want something that can drop them in just a few hits.

 

[WelperHelper99]

for .22 the theory is that you can get multiple rounds on target, and multiple are needed in this case. but the problem is this kind of sets up a unrealistic scenario. i dont think in most real world scenarios you have the time needed to get the large number of .22 rounds on target needed in order to reliably stop an attacker. if i had 1 minute of a guy standing still allowing me to empty mag after mag of .22 into them, i would go with that, but if i have just a second or two needed to stop a crack head charging me with a knife, then i want something that can drop them in just a few hits.

I'm not saying it's great, but I wouldn't want to get shot by it either. Especially if someone has a quick trigger finger. It's a lot of holes.

 

[AGPinochet]

Sureshot Armament Group have created a prototype, well I don't really know what to call it, it mounts to the side rail but looks to replace the dust cover. Any way it is to my knowledge completely novel way of mounting things to an AK. I would assume it would be cheaper than their full Chassis kits and more capable than their side rail offerings.


"Free 90" DIY P90 Trigger pack, all the non spring bits are made of Polymer just like the OEM pack and the springs can be found at your local hardware store, Theoretically could be used as a basis for Future DIY(ish) bullpup designs. Speaking of Which


Damascus2A Has revealed his is working on a "building block" for future Bullpup designs that other Devs can use to streamline future development around


Prototype modification of an AWCY Bobcat revised to work with Sten mags


Tube gun upper for Transferable MAC by Tobias Obermeit, really showcases the ease of which printing simplifies relatively critical geometry like Magwells and critical geometry of Mags themselves


This conversion, despite being done by an American in America, is rougher than literally every conversion done by Foreign and Indigenous gunsmiths in Idlib, Syria (a part of the world where many people live 10 to a tent) by orders of Magnitude.


New Bri'ish Future soldier concept, I don't know the rifle manufacturer but it could be an iteration of the Lantac "Battle Raven" (I say iteration because this rifle has many fewer screws on the handguard than the Battle Raven, different milling on the magwell and no bulbous protrusion near the safety selector). The Bri'ish military is a shitshow and Future Soldier programs never work out but seeing as How the end of Project Greyburn (the project to finally replace the SA80/L85) is coming to fruition in 2025 and has publicly stated to have been influenced by the results of Project Hunter (which among other pieces of Equipment saw the adoption of the KAC KS-1 as the L403A1) the gun's presence is curious. If somehow this rifle actually is adopted, it would to my knowledge the first ever military adopted rifle with any kind of non marking related milling on the magwell.


Sig has apparently filed for a trademark application on "M19". Why did they do this? new product? trademarking things just to trademark them? As far as I know there isn't a public contract for any new kind of pistol from the US Mil and M19 obviously tracks sequentially with the adopted M17 and M18.


Tunisian SR-25


Breaking News: Palmetto State Armory, a company that everyone accepts makes cheap rifles cheaply and sometimes doesn't make their "clone" guns 100% clone correct lengthened their "Krink" receivers by 1.5mm. Dozens of sheet metal shitgun enthusiasts stroking out rn


Honestly it serves you right for buying an 8in 5.56

 

[EggImpregnator]

22lr ain't much. But I'd take a 22lr over my fists 7 days a week.

https://youtu.be/_w4Z5azEPWk?si=ZeYPg2PbSEDFwpOP

 

[break these cuffs]

22lr ain't much. But I'd take a 22lr over my fists 7 days a week.

https://youtu.be/_w4Z5azEPWk?si=ZeYPg2PbSEDFwpOP

I've generally judged the efficacy of .22lr on humans in terms by its performance on the skreet and not against watermelons. You can find plenty of shootings where people both die and survive against .22lr. Fiddy Cent notoriously was shot 9 times with one. Snoop references a "twenty two" in Lil Ghetto Boy on The Chronic (1992), so even niggers have known them for decades. They're cheap and ammo is plentiful. Spamming out a mag in the cut against a rival banger may result in the nigger getting hit in the hip and shin, and living. Put a few rounds out of that same mag into someone's hearts/lungs or face you can be looking at a different ending depending on the way the bullet bounces, or doesn't.

Gunshot wounds can be a funny thing. I've never examined gun shot wound survivability statistics over the last 20 years, but I know what we were taught in the GWoT was revolutionary in the civilian world. Tourniquets were considered dangerous and virtually unused by EMS for instance. There was some Ranger or something who took like 24 hours to get down off a mountain in Afghanistan and they just kept sticking his chest with decompression needles until they could get him on a bird. For us it was stop the (major) bleeding, get them breathing, and get them to a trauma center. Survivability dramatically increased the quicker they got into surgery. Quick and dirty does the job just fine. Let the surgeons do what they do.

The guy teaching a trauma class I took a while ago even had a book of experimental surgeries performed in Iraq and Afghanistan that ended up influencing stateside practices. I unfortunately can't remember any specifics, but it was basically all things that nobody in the civilian world would try due to liability. That didn't matter in the mil, so the surgeons did all kinds of weird shit to save people's lives.

 

[DocAwe]

Ronald Regan was shot with a .22 and it almost ended him.

 

[Akran]

 

[The Dude]

It's funny how attitudes about weapons/ammunition change over time. Back in the day when the American 180 (that groovy .22lr SMG with the Lewis Gun-esque pan on top) was introduced and marketed to law enforcement agencies, one of it's proposed uses was for riot control by skipping the rounds off the pavement into the legs of rioters. Because back then .22lr was viewed as a "kid's round" and not as lethal as a .38 Spcl or .357 Magnum. Now we have companies marketing .22lr ammunition and firearms for self defense. Personally, I think I'll stick with 9mm and .45 ACP for self defense.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

Tourniquets were considered dangerous and virtually unused by EMS for instance.

i find the tourniquet thing interesting. i might still have a first aid book laying around form when i was younger and i recall at the time the advice was to never use one, even going so far as to say it does more harm than good. i guess if it isnt major bleeding and you just crank the thing down so much it cuts off all circulation, that can be true. but it seems the evidence from Iraq and Afghanistan has turned that advice on its head. they are now ubiquitous in any decent first aid kit.

 

[break these cuffs]

i find the tourniquet thing interesting. i might still have a first aid book laying around form when i was younger and i recall at the time the advice was to never use one, even going so far as to say it does more harm than good. i guess if it isnt major bleeding and you just crank the thing down so much it cuts off all circulation, that can be true. but it seems the evidence from Iraq and Afghanistan has turned that advice on its head. they are now ubiquitous in any decent first aid kit.

Yeah, it was believed it would cause cell death from lack of blood and could lead to even having to amputate the limb. In boot, and I think even infantry school, we were taught specific placement in relation to joints and to write down the time it was placed on a patent's forehead because it had to be released for a set amount of time every hour. It's why most TQs come with that little white patch on them now. By the time I hit the Fleet we were told to get them on the artery and get the wounded in the evac truck. Doc will deal with everything on the way to Surgical. Cell death only starts at like 2-3 hours, I forget and I'm not a doctor, and amputation isn't on the table until like 6 hours. And that's with uninterrupted application.

The biggest problem with tourniquets is honestly improper placement and pressure. You want the direct pressure on the artery if possible and it's going to hurt. I've read that they work on two bone limbs, like a forearm, just fine. We were told to just put them a on the artery few inches above the joint. A properly torqued tourniquet is not pleasant and a pain response is an indication that you should give it another crank down. There is a reason why patients will try to remove them.

It's funny how attitudes about weapons/ammunition change over time. Back in the day when the American 180 (that groovy .22lr SMG with the Lewis Gun-esque pan on top) was introduced and marketed to law enforcement agencies, one of it's proposed uses was for riot control by skipping the rounds off the pavement into the legs of rioters. Because back then .22lr was viewed as a "kid's round" and not as lethal as a .38 Spcl or .357 Magnum. Now we have companies marketing .22lr ammunition and firearms for self defense. Personally, I think I'll stick with 9mm and .45 ACP for self defense.

The .22lr is by no means a self defense round, it's just better than nothing. It's wild that companies are marketing that.

 

[Dean Pentel]

Depends. Easier to shoot but way harder to carry. I'd rather carry my LCP max over a 1911.

All weapons are a compromise. If your LCP will work reliably and you carry it consistently I'd say that's all that matters.

and may not have the option to just leave a situation, especially if I’m with my family.

I'm of a similar mindset. If it's just me I'm content with just my M&P Compact. If the wife or other loved ones are with me I'm taking the Beretta or the CZ and an extra mag.

should be alright though if you stick with M80 ball ammo or equivalent.

I'm with Clubby here. It's easy to source and I think it's smart to setup your rifle and optics around what ammo it'll use most commonly.

Oh I want a 1911... In 9mm

Heck yeah! You may have to mess with recoil spring weights, though. Not a big deal, just be aware.

The guns are cool. The people are usually joyless pricks.

Doesn't that describe all of the 2A "community"?

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

The guns are cool. The people are usually joyless pricks.

You're not really wrong, but that applies equally to the gun community in general, definitely more so for the tactical or competition side of things.

I'd rather be chillen with 3Dfags than your average arfcom or other gun forum user. Probably just an age thing though, can't stand gun boomers or anybody bitching about game rules

 

[break these cuffs]

You're not really wrong, but that applies equally to the gun community in general, definitely more so for the tactical or competition side of things.

I'd rather be chillen with 3Dfags than your average arfcom or other gun forum user. Probably just an age thing though, can't stand gun boomers or anybody bitching about game rules

I'll stick to the non-tranny infested parts of the hobby, personally.

 

[EggImpregnator]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eC03LMaatGs

Anyone notice this turd had wildly inconsistent ejection patterns? Both in this video and the previous AK50 video it shoots spent cases forwards, backwards, with various force with some just plopping out of the gun and some being launched into the stratosphere. idk if it's inconsistent gassing or if theres some kind of flaw in the ejector design.

22lr SMG with the Lewis Gun-esque pan on top) was introduced and marketed to law enforcement agencies, one of it's proposed uses was for riot control by skipping the rounds off the pavement into the legs of rioters. Because back then .22lr was viewed as a "kid's round" and not as lethal as a .38 Spcl or .357

The Israelis still to this day use 10/22s as "non lethal" crowd control by aiming for the knees and ankles of protesters. They even have this cool integrally suppressed 10/22 too.