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Dean Pentel said:
For you Cali peeps, how feasible is it to simply ignore the more retarded firearms laws there?
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Bringing ammunition you bought out of state, across the border, without going through a FFL transfer and thus recorded in the state ledger is a misdemeanor; violating any sort of roster or featureless law is a felony; and while people can argue freedom week for possessing magazines of a certain size, the state isn't gonna agree, and that's a felony too. Sure you can do it, but you'll have to keep it hidden and go way out in the middle of nowhere, where CHP and the County Sherriff won't even get a call. Just about every other law isn't something they're gonna catch you on, but will just be additional charges for the if/when they do get you; they can be ignored, right up until God forbid, the cops come to your house with a warrant and want to look around. It's easy to say they're not wanting safety and just passing bullshit, because yeah, it's true; but the problem is going to be the if/when they get you on some small bullshit. Like recently, apparently CZ changed something with the internals of some of their handguns that were on the roster, and the state found out and immediately took them off roster. Now the question is gonna be, are you in trouble for possessing an off-roster handgun; ideally the answer would be no, because you got it when it was on roster, but we know the state isn't that understanding, and they may not go actively seek you out, but if they catch you tripping, all that shit they pass will come down on you.
 
Dean Pentel said:
Is similar behavior a thing that's reasonably possible in CA?
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: Kinda, but mostly no.
The issue with CA is that you have to get background checks on ammo, and all firearms. You also have to deal with fudds at the local ranges that WILL report you for having a scary "assault rifle." This is especially common in bluer areas (not northern CA). "Well what about public land?" I hear you ask. So the issue there is that you're gonna run into all kinds of issues with BLM, Fish and Wildlife, and other LE agencies who patrol those areas. Is it possible you don't get into issues out there, yes, but do you want to risk 10 years in Chino? If yes, go ahead. If no, well, option 3. "But I have private land." You say. Cool, how much? Are there neighbors close by? Are they pro gun? Do you get along? Are you willing to risk them using the fact they hear you shooting more than 10rds at a time as a means to report you when they get upset? If yes: go ahead. If no: don't try it in California.
 
Apis Mellifica said:
I have been CRAVING a M1 Carbine in .357 magnum forever. A rifle that can take deer, shoot pistol cartridges, and be used by anyone of any size or stature by nature of being tiny and small in form and recoil impulse.
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Echoing the Sandwich, .357 is a downgrade from .30 Carbine in every way.
 
Luv me M&P 2.0, simple as
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Apis Mellifica said:
Except that I can walk into any gunstore and find .357, it's cheaper to reload, it's far cheaper to buy than .30 Carbine, and .357 can take deer pretty well. And I can use it in all my other .357 handguns and rifles :3
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depends on the store. .30 carbine is still produced in quantity by large manufacturers both domestic and imported and it's more popular in some areas than others. it also doesn't require jumping through hoops on a conversion or rarer gun to shoot in a semi-auto. it's also sometimes cheaper than .357 depending on who made it.
 
Kheapathic said:
Bringing ammunition you bought out of state, across the border, without going through a FFL transfer and thus recorded in the state ledger is a misdemeanor;
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If a misdemeanor falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Kheapathic said:
and while people can argue freedom week for possessing magazines of a certain size, the state isn't gonna agree, and that's a felony too
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There has already been a successful use of "freedom week" as a defense when someone prosecuted for possession of magazines with a capacity over 10 rounds. It is incumbent upon the government to prove that you obtained, or modified, the magazines illegally. IIRC the possession charge was incidental to a domestic disturbance call and they were looking to stack charges, or just to find anything to charge a guy with.
Kheapathic said:
Now the question is gonna be, are you in trouble for possessing an off-roster handgun; ideally the answer would be no, because you got it when it was on roster, but we know the state isn't that understanding, and they may not go actively seek you out, but if they catch you tripping, all that shit they pass will come down on you.
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No for several reasons. CA's approved handgun roster regulates what is legal for FFLs to sell, not what is legal to possess. Changes to the roster are not applied retroactively, and would be considered an ex post facto application. If it was legal at time of sale, then it's all good. Pistols have dropped off the roster many times. You give way to much credit to CA's ability to enforce any rules at all. That place is a fucking joke.
 
Shopping Cart Nationalist said:
You give way to much credit to CA's ability to enforce any rules at all. That place is a fucking joke.
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No, you illiterate fuck, I give too much credit to how much bullshit they'll force in the name of "safety" while doing nothing. Yes, it's easy to mule ammo across state lines, but they still made it a law. Yes, freedom week may have been upheld in courts, but that won't stop any badge nigger from wanting to be a pain in the ass; because cops are totally up on the law and what the courts do and never, ever, fucking ever, flex their authority. Then you have to fight it in court, and sure it's the courts problem to prove it, but until then, they've put your life on hold due to legal issues; go ahead and Randy Marsh about how this is America. The state's a fucking joke because they have access to all the data everyone else does, but does this shit instead of going after the actual problems; which often lead to them going after others with their bullshit laws. The only thing dumber than California gun laws is you saying "don't get caught," well no fucking shit sherlock, what a novel fucking concept; it's almost like knowing the laws is information and people can make their own decisions, you want to risk it, that's on you. Dude was asking about what kind of shit we can do out here and your grand fucking contribution was "the courts say this" and "don't get caught." What a fucking winner, go drown yourself in the LA River.
 
Apis Mellifica said:
Except that I can walk into any gunstore and find .357, it's cheaper to reload, it's far cheaper to buy than .30 Carbine, and .357 can take deer pretty well. And I can use it in all my other .357 handguns and rifles :3
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That would be the idea on a semi auto 357. You can share ammo with your other guns while still having modern features. 30 carbine is in a few *expensive* revolvers, but are not common, if you buy into 30 carbine, the M1 is the only gun you're carrying it with
Autistic Gunspergings said:
Luv me M&P 2.0, simple as
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Taking advice from this thread, and now that my car has had major issues I've been forced to address, I think now I want to save up for a M&P 2.0 in 40 cal instead of the SD40 2.0, since I am going to be in the hole for a while. Buy a nice gun instead of a cheap one.

Love the look, heard great things about the coating, and the striker system, while similar to Glock, is distinct enough to not be a total clone. Also like the grip texture from what I've held of them. 15 rounds in 40 too, which is banging.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
My sweat destroys SW coatings, but it destroys Glock coatings as well.
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It has to be better than the bluing on my revolver lol. Actually looked up the price of one at my LGS. $430 plus tax, three 15 round mags, 4.25 inch barrel, law enforcement model. For what will be a house gun, where concealment isn't a issue, that sounds great. And I like that gun shop, so it's a win. Now I just gotta save for it.
 
Dean Pentel said:
I'm jelly. I've fired my Model 29-2 enough that now the cylinder will move a tiny bit in lock up. It's not yet a safety concern but I wish it would have stayed in its initial condition.
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Your model 29 was built before S&W started a series of changes to the design called the endurance package starting with the 29-3E and by the 29-4 all new .44's were built with the EP.

pre-endurance package model 29's are really just over strong .44 special revolvers. the cylinder can take the power but the action cannot and they were known for beating themselves to death via magnum recoil going so far as to shear the pins off the inside of the frame.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
Your model 29 was built before S&W started a series of changes to the design called the endurance package starting with the 29-3E and by the 29-4 all new .44's were built with the EP.

pre-endurance package model 29's are really just over strong .44 special revolvers. the cylinder can take the power but the action cannot and they were known for beating themselves to death via magnum recoil going so far as to shear the pins off the inside of the frame.
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I bought some parts from Power Custom to address the cylinder lock up whenever that needs to happen. I don't shoot it all that often and I'm using standard pressure magnum loads in it.

It definitely taught me I'm not a fan of revolvers except for how they give access to the big magnum calibers. And even then I use them sparingly.
 
Dean Pentel said:
I bought some parts from Power Custom to address the cylinder lock up whenever that needs to happen. I don't shoot it all that often and I'm using standard pressure magnum loads in it.

It definitely taught me I'm not a fan of revolvers except for how they give access to the big magnum calibers. And even then I use them sparingly.
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We REALLY need more semi-auto handcannons in Magnum Calibers that ain't just Desert Eagles, Auto-Mags, Wildeys, or Coonans.

Hell, moving the magazine in front of the trigger would be good start.
 
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