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Glock 19 Gen 5 said:
So something like IWI? Does that include S&W and Rugers?
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Ruger makes a good AR and the S&W's i've handled are pretty decent too, i don't have experience with IWI AR's unfortunately but they're probably okay. other than some proprietary parts on the Ruger that some might want to swap for "mil-spec" parts, which the M&P Sport 3 comes with already, they're pretty equivalent and don't have any mystery meat items in it that aren't like the sling or something with packaging. either S&W or Ruger is making the parts themselves or using OEM suppliers like Mossberg or DRG or Bushmaster, et c.

if i had a customer looking to drop money on a do it all AR-15 for under $1k all accessories and half a case of ammo, i wouldn't feel bad selling them an M&P Sport after giving it a once-over for the customer's peace of mind.
 
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Glock 19 Gen 5 said:
While I agree, there are people who have dropped binary triggers into them
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The thing about binary triggers is they have some weird legal problems. Alabama, for some strange reason, made them illegal very recently. Apparently, they're illegal on the federal level, but federal agents are the only people who can arrest you for it. State agencies can just ignore the law. Its an interesting situation because some states are using federal loopholes, like that, to also prevent the nationalization of state guards men and militias.
Glock 19 Gen 5 said:
The $500 range of AR15s is interesting, there's some smaller outfits like Andro Corp that seemingly build a decent product for poors,
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I've never heard of them. Also, the gun store doesn't have those brands. They have RADICAL fire-arms (which I think is trash) and Anderson (which is actually 5.56) under 500 dollars.
 
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I have a .22 AR that only gets used for people who want to go shoot but have never handled a gun before. Cheap range day and easier to get people over their fear of recoil while they plink with the same setup as a 5.56 and I've had a lot of success with it (meaning they end up purchasing their own guns or at least aren't terrified of big scary AR-15s anymore.)

If I know someone is just going to shoot one box of ammo a year at most and they ask me about buying their first AR-15, Ruger and S&W more than meet their needs. For the people who have started shooting regularly, you can't go wrong with a BCM upper and building out an Aero M4E1 lower. Solid rifle that can be had for around $1k with the right sales. Getting them to get a decent optic and not buying that stupid Amazon 3 in 1 is a harder challenge for me.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
A gun store I went to recently was selling a M249s for 15K and its semi-automatic. I'm not seeing any practical reason to buy something like that.
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I used to think semi LMGs were unpractical too. The price point for me makes the M249 undesirable, even at the 8k-10k price points I've seen them at. I own 2 semi auto MG42s and a full auto. Full auto is great fun and all but mine is chambered in 7.62x51 which means I am blowing $50 a belt for either 3 seconds of ripping it or 30 seconds roughly for bursts. One semi is 8mm, and one is also 7.62x51. They are fun in the sense you have a MG42 and they are quite accurate. I do not have an immediate shooting area I can exceed 100 yards but I feel like they'd preform well farther than that. I can't think of a better phrase but the semis have a better "return on investment" I.E shooting a full 50 rounder on a semi, taking time with your shots lasts 2 minutes or so, even slamming the trigger as fast as you can lasts up to a minute. I think my last outing with the full auto I no joke blew $500 in ammo and the entire running time was maybe 2-3 minutes during a 8hr range session with family and friends. I rarely shoot the full auto for myself anymore unless I am trying to fix an issue or just want to pretend I'm at Normandy for a belt or two. Also you can get 3 semi 1919A4s, maybe MG42s if you find some of the 5k ones, maybe DP27s if you have someone build them for you, for the price that shop was selling the one M249. Hell you can even get 3 fightlite raptor uppers for that price and those are a-lot more flexible since binarys, FRTs, and super safeties exist.
 
Glock 19 Gen 5 said:
they all seem to suffer from PSA syndrome: questionable quality control during assembly.
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A buddy of mine has now destroyed two PSA uppers just trying to get the barrel nuts off. Not sure if it's insane gorilla torque, something crazy like Rocksett or both, but they really don't want you taking their stuff apart.
 
Akran said:
I used to think semi LMGs were unpractical too. The price point for me makes the M249 undesirable, even at the 8k-10k price points I've seen them at. I own 2 semi auto MG42s and a full auto. Full auto is great fun and all but mine is chambered in 7.62x51 which means I am blowing $50 a belt for either 3 seconds of ripping it or 30 seconds roughly for bursts. One semi is 8mm, and one is also 7.62x51. They are fun in the sense you have a MG42 and they are quite accurate. I do not have an immediate shooting area I can exceed 100 yards but I feel like they'd preform well farther than that. I can't think of a better phrase but the semis have a better "return on investment" I.E shooting a full 50 rounder on a semi, taking time with your shots lasts 2 minutes or so, even slamming the trigger as fast as you can lasts up to a minute. I think my last outing with the full auto I no joke blew $500 in ammo and the entire running time was maybe 2-3 minutes during a 8hr range session with family and friends. I rarely shoot the full auto for myself anymore unless I am trying to fix an issue or just want to pretend I'm at Normandy for a belt or two. Also you can get 3 semi 1919A4s, maybe MG42s if you find some of the 5k ones, maybe DP27s if you have someone build them for you, for the price that shop was selling the one M249. Hell you can even get 3 fightlite raptor uppers for that price and those are a-lot more flexible since binarys, FRTs, and super safeties exist.
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I mean I guess some people drink alcohol free beer too but... why
 
Akran said:
I used to think semi LMGs were unpractical too. The price point for me makes the M249 undesirable, even at the 8k-10k price points I've seen them at. I own 2 semi auto MG42s and a full auto. Full auto is great fun and all but mine is chambered in 7.62x51 which means I am blowing $50 a belt for either 3 seconds of ripping it or 30 seconds roughly for bursts. One semi is 8mm, and one is also 7.62x51. They are fun in the sense you have a MG42 and they are quite accurate. I do not have an immediate shooting area I can exceed 100 yards but I feel like they'd preform well farther than that. I can't think of a better phrase but the semis have a better "return on investment" I.E shooting a full 50 rounder on a semi, taking time with your shots lasts 2 minutes or so, even slamming the trigger as fast as you can lasts up to a minute. I think my last outing with the full auto I no joke blew $500 in ammo and the entire running time was maybe 2-3 minutes during a 8hr range session with family and friends. I rarely shoot the full auto for myself anymore unless I am trying to fix an issue or just want to pretend I'm at Normandy for a belt or two. Also you can get 3 semi 1919A4s, maybe MG42s if you find some of the 5k ones, maybe DP27s if you have someone build them for you, for the price that shop was selling the one M249. Hell you can even get 3 fightlite raptor uppers for that price and those are a-lot more flexible since binarys, FRTs, and super safeties exist.
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>MG42
>pretend I'm at Normandy
Anon, what are you trying to tell us?
 
Glock 19 Gen 5 said:
While I agree, there are people who have dropped binary triggers into them (someone should make a FRT for one) to give them some more oomf.
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It's probably more practical to just buy a beltfed AR upper and slap an FRT into that. Though those Fitelite uppers are already super expensive, I think around $6k.

WhatInTheActualFuck said:
A buddy of mine has now destroyed two PSA uppers just trying to get the barrel nuts off. Not sure if it's insane gorilla torque, something crazy like Rocksett or both, but they really don't want you taking their stuff apart.
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If PSA is actually Rocksetting barrel nuts instead of grease they're, well, nuts.
 
Holster shopping is gay and the build-a-bear workshop sites typically don't have reviews or have views of belt loops.
Any recommendations for decent companies that do semi-custom leather holsters? I'm looking for an OWB for my new innawoods cannon.

El Paso Saddlery was recommended a while back, and they have a wide variety. My complaints include them not having more than one picture per product and their neat gimmick holsters don't cover the trigger. What the fuck does the lining look like, would I need the lining so the button snap on the inside doesn't scratch my gun? What does the belt loop look like? Fuck.
Diamond D is apparently highly regarded but I both hate the look of the vacuum seal and I've got bad experiences with that kind of high friction fit loosening too quickly after break-in.
 
WhatInTheActualFuck said:
destroyed two PSA uppers just trying to get the barrel nuts off.
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a lot of PSA AR-15 uppers i've put hands on had far over-torqued barrel nuts. no idea why, but iirc they aren't using loctite or rocksett. leave that to doublestar - two rifles from them and both had red loctite on the receiver extensions and grip screw.
WhoBusTank69 said:
semi-custom leather holsters
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galco and lone star are pretty good. and if you don't mind the wait, you can also go with Privateer or nightingale leather. triple k are actually very good leatherworkers, which is their core business (because high quality magazines sure isn't it...).
 
Club Sandwich said:
a lot of PSA AR-15 uppers i've put hands on had far over-torqued barrel nuts. no idea why, but iirc they aren't using loctite or rocksett. leave that to doublestar - two rifles from them and both had red loctite on the receiver extensions and grip screw.

galco and lone star are pretty good. and if you don't mind the wait, you can also go with Privateer or nightingale leather. triple k are actually very good leatherworkers, which is their core business (because high quality magazines sure isn't it...).
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I just got a Veddar Comfort tuck to replace my Galeco King Tuck (or whatever).

Veddar seems to have a better HK mold as this fits my P30 and my VP9 better than the Galeco. The horsehide was a nice upgrade too, glad I went for that.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Holster shopping is gay and the build-a-bear workshop sites typically don't have reviews or have views of belt loops.
Any recommendations for decent companies that do semi-custom leather holsters? I'm looking for an OWB for my new innawoods cannon.

El Paso Saddlery was recommended a while back, and they have a wide variety. My complaints include them not having more than one picture per product and their neat gimmick holsters don't cover the trigger. What the fuck does the lining look like, would I need the lining so the button snap on the inside doesn't scratch my gun? What does the belt loop look like? Fuck.
Diamond D is apparently highly regarded but I both hate the look of the vacuum seal and I've got bad experiences with that kind of high friction fit loosening too quickly after break-in.
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the lining is yellow (pigskin i think). its only to protect the leather from the sharp edges of the gun. if its one of their duty holsters its just a regular belt loop. about 2 inches wide. the button snap metal does not touch your gun because the leather folds over and covers it.

the triggers are exposed because elpaso sadderly has been around for 150 years and mostly makes holsters for revolvers and single action 1911's where trigger exposure does not matter.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
the triggers are exposed because elpaso sadderly has been around for 150 years and mostly makes holsters for revolvers and single action 1911's where trigger exposure does not matter.
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I think, even as unlikely as a 1911 or a single-action revolver going off unintentionally is, I'd still feel a little uneasy not having the trigger covered. In the event the gun manages to get cocked, that's not a lot of pressure on the trigger to set it off.
 
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