Mega Rad Gun Thread

[AncientPhosphur]

Collecting is more appealing to people than building skill.

Not sure why. I’ve always been athletic and enjoy being sporty and improving myself. Even when I’m getting older I still enjoy being able to move and shoot faster than some of the early 20 guys I compete with. Collecting alone seems weird. I mean I have a M4 sopmod and Garand but I still work to shoot them decently and do fun matches with as a LARP. Idk I just hate having a mindset like the majority of gun guys who think they can fight off da gubment but they’re fat and slovenly.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Now if they let you dirt bike and shoot on blm land that makes more sense why people would be upset.

they do allow it. I don't expect this part of the bill to survive TBH. it was removed from the house version of the BBB (that version was only 500,000 acres in utah) and has ALOT of push back from fellow republicans and almost universal opposition from democrats and hunting/conservation groups. amendments get cut and added all the time before the final bill gets passed.

Now, some government land i could get behind selling is the stupid checker boarding in parts of the west. the government would grant the railroads every other parcel of land to help fund the railroad. the rail roads then sold that land. so you get these huge tracts of land (both public and private) that are land locked from each other. actual real life border gore:

 

[Big Brutus]

Kentucky is orange on the map but this state does not have any gun restrictions at all.

Kentucky requires people to be over 21 to carry a concealed handgun, per KRS 237.109 and KRS 237.110.

Kentucky does not allow a person to carry in several locations such as schools or colleges, police stations, courthouses, etc., per KRS 527.070, KRS 237.110, and KRS 237.115.

Kentucky does not allow a person to carry in a bar, per KRS 244.125.

Kentucky does not allow armor-piercing ammunition which can be used in a handgun, per KRS 237.080.

I get that Kentucky's gun laws are pretty good, but there are definitely gun restrictions. (As always, all gun laws are infringements. Shall not be infringed, gun-grabbing niggers.)

 

[Broken Talisman]

I get that Kentucky's gun laws are pretty good, but there are definitely gun restrictions. (As always, all gun laws are infringements. Shall not be infringed, gun-grabbing niggers.)

Worse than all those laws on the books is the lizard sitting in the Governor's mansion body blocking any attempts to change them. Beshear is a "nice" guy in person, but he's blue through and through as far as 2a issues go. Then again what else should you expect from a dynastic democrat that simply inherited his old man's political cache?

 

[Fear&LoathinginMcDonalds]

Decided to print a different frame design that looked more 'tool-like'
Also tried airbrushing the textured grip areas for some pop.
Gonna swap my parts kit tomorrow and see how it looks all finished.

Arts and crafts and contained explosions

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Not sure why. I’ve always been athletic and enjoy being sporty and improving myself. Even when I’m getting older I still enjoy being able to move and shoot faster than some of the early 20 guys I compete with. Collecting alone seems weird. I mean I have a M4 sopmod and Garand but I still work to shoot them decently and do fun matches with as a LARP. Idk I just hate having a mindset like the majority of gun guys who think they can fight off da gubment but they’re fat and slovenly.

Because it’s easy to buy a thing, but not easy to invest time and effort to better yourself.

 

[shinto minto]

A few prototype pistols with angled slides (former built by Randy Neroni in the US, latter built by a guy in Russia):

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(patent)(pdf attached to post)

He's got an entire playlist of videos describing his thoughts on the design.

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Another guy, Victor Shershnev (vik111@list.ru) of St. Petersburg, RU, has been working on a similar concept. He calls them "radial slide guides."


Next to an airsoft Browning Hi-Power

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Some articles discussing the Russian angled-slide attempt:
https://vk.com/@413067708-52521 (archive)
https://vk.com/@413067708-photo-overall-and-ergonomic-advantages-of-using-the-rnz-prin (archive)
https://en.topwar.ru/190569-koncepcija-pistoleta-vzgljad-v-novom-rakurse.html (archive)
In Spanish: https://fdra-ejercito2.blogspot.com/2022/01/nuevas-perspectivas-en-el-concepto-de.html (archive)

Seems like an interesting way to reduce muzzel climb. Wonder why it's not commercially viable?

 

[Burekbossman]

A few prototype pistols with angled slides (former built by Randy Neroni in the US, latter built by a guy in Russia):
X1 prototype table top review #guns #pistol #handgun #prototype #shooting #9mm #firearms [Z41...mp4
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Munday gun day #guns #shooting #pistol #handgun #9mm #selfdefense #prototype [rykhLuj1BnI].mp4
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(patent)(pdf attached to post)

He's got an entire playlist of videos describing his thoughts on the design.

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Another guy, Victor Shershnev (vik111@list.ru) of St. Petersburg, RU, has been working on a similar concept. He calls them "radial slide guides."
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Next to an airsoft Browning Hi-Power

Pistol with radial slide guides. (Пистолет с радиальными направляющими затвора.) [0ifVnivGXr8].mp4
(youtube)(preservetube)

Some articles discussing the Russian angled-slide attempt:
https://vk.com/@413067708-52521 (archive)
https://vk.com/@413067708-photo-overall-and-ergonomic-advantages-of-using-the-rnz-prin (archive)
https://en.topwar.ru/190569-koncepcija-pistoleta-vzgljad-v-novom-rakurse.html (archive)
In Spanish: https://fdra-ejercito2.blogspot.com/2022/01/nuevas-perspectivas-en-el-concepto-de.html (archive)

Seems like an interesting way to reduce muzzel climb. Wonder why it's not commercially viable?

Machining that curve through all the parts of the gun would be much more expensive, so it wouldn't be great for profit margins. The back looks thin as well, which means a cnc maching would have to hold it by the front end. This would lead the part deflecting slightly while the tool is on the end making repeatability a problem.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

Seems like an interesting way to reduce muzzel climb. Wonder why it's not commercially viable?

Does it actually meaningfully reduce muzzle climb? Also is it more effective than existing solutions such as comps and ports?

 

[Polock]

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This was posted on X, and I found some of the choices here to be strange? Tennessee and Florida being friendly than Georgia seems odd. Tennessee doesn't allow the open carry of long guns, and Florida has gun laws similar to blue states with red flag and no open carry. There's probably some other issues with their criteria, but I can't think of any else at the moment.

This chart seems inaccurate but I think its because its a really flawed way of displaying the data and not because the rankings are inherently wrong.

 

[ChampFantana]

For example Indiana is friendlier despite being unable to open carry.

Indiana has been Constitutional Carry for a couple of years now.

 

[shinto minto]

Does it actually meaningfully reduce muzzle climb? Also is it more effective than existing solutions such as comps and ports?

I double checked and now I'm not sure. Randy has this video that compares his prototype with a M&P Shield. I can't tell if he really has less muzzle flip or not. (S&W M&P Shield starts at ~0:40)

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[The Dude]

Went to the range today. The plan was to get the holosight sighted in on my Origin 12, but the range that I went to doesn't allow shotguns due to the rubber coating on the backstop wall. So I shot my Vector G3 and my Mark 23 with the Hybrid 46M mounted. Had a lot of fun. The Vector experienced a couple of failures to extract, which isnt a big deal since it's a new gun and just getting broken in. For the most part it ran great with 115gr ammo at around 1200fps. Just cheap FMJ. The Mark 23 was so much fun to shoot suppressed. I put about 60rnds through it suppressed and 12 unsuppressed. It's the first time I've fired anything centerfire suppressed. My only other experience with suppressors was with a .22.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

All this suppressor talk has got me curious, is there a definitive guide on how a suppressor works? The basics of course are easy enough: a series of chambers to capture gasses that lessen the report of the firearm. However what exactly are the details? Does chamber shape matter, does the size, or number of chambers matter? Can you make a single expansion chamber, and achieve good enough results for simple hearing protection? Looking at the various design cutaways posted earlier, its clear most designs follow a basic: large initial chamber, followed by a series of muzzle facing smaller chambers. Does having the initial chamber matter? Does the following expansion chambers need to be angled toward the on coming gasses? Obviously a lot of suppressor design is a trade secret, and each company will jealously guard its design all while telling you the other guy's can is scrap metal. So what is the go to book, or article, or youtube video, or forum post for suppressor mechanics, and design?

 

[The Dude]

All this suppressor talk has got me curious, is there a definitive guide on how a suppressor works? The basics of course are easy enough: a series of chambers to capture gasses that lessen the report of the firearm. However what exactly are the details? Does chamber shape matter, does the size, or number of chambers matter? Can you make a single expansion chamber, and achieve good enough results for simple hearing protection? Looking at the various design cutaways posted earlier, its clear most designs follow a basic: large initial chamber, followed by a series of muzzle facing smaller chambers. Does having the initial chamber matter? Does the following expansion chambers need to be angled toward the on coming gasses? Obviously a lot of suppressor design is a trade secret, and each company will jealously guard its design all while telling you the other guy's can is scrap metal. So what is the go to book, or article, or youtube video, or forum post for suppressor mechanics, and design?

Its not so much that the gasses are getting trapped, but that they are being slowed down dramatically. There are several different style of suppressors with very different baffle designs, but the most common style I've seen is a series of baffles shaped like funnels with the "spout" end facing back towards the bore of the weapon. Some have chambers all the same size/volume, others have varying chamber size/volume. Some earlier/more primitive suppressor designs were just a simple tube filled with wire mesh rolled up in several layers with a hole in the middle large enough for the bullet to pass through. The Carl Gustav SMG that some US Spec Ops types (think SEALs and MAC-V SOG) used during Vietnam had suppressors like this which also had wipes, I believe. Some of the newer, more advanced designs coming out are far more complex. The guy who started OSS which then became Huxworx has a new suppressor design company that currently is in the R&D phase and only available to military and government customers, but from what little has come out about it, the baffle design kinda looks like a nautilus shell, the body is roughly rectangular in shape, and it actually mounts around the front of the barrel of a rifle.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

All this suppressor talk has got me curious, is there a definitive guide on how a suppressor works? The basics of course are easy enough: a series of chambers to capture gasses that lessen the report of the firearm. However what exactly are the details? Does chamber shape matter, does the size, or number of chambers matter? Can you make a single expansion chamber, and achieve good enough results for simple hearing protection? Looking at the various design cutaways posted earlier, its clear most designs follow a basic: large initial chamber, followed by a series of muzzle facing smaller chambers. Does having the initial chamber matter? Does the following expansion chambers need to be angled toward the on coming gasses? Obviously a lot of suppressor design is a trade secret, and each company will jealously guard its design all while telling you the other guy's can is scrap metal. So what is the go to book, or article, or youtube video, or forum post for suppressor mechanics, and design?

One of the ww2 era designs was for the M3 submachine gun used rubber baffles and was by all accounts I've found rather quiet as long as you spaced out your shots. However it would become almost completely useless after about 1 to 1 1/2 magazines of full auto use.

If they actually do away with the tax stamp requirements I intend to try a similar idea on my 10/22 pistol. Metal or pvc pipe with printed rubbery baffles should be very quiet but probably have longevity issues.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Indiana has been Constitutional Carry for a couple of years now.

As is Ohio, we are permitless now. On the other hand, I could see some of the ranking being because you have to use straight walled cartridges for hunting. It's a consequence of most of the state being flat, a .308 is going to end up somewhere, potentially a long ways off somewhere. We have castle doctrine, basically, but only for your home, and while open carry is legal, I don't know if I'd want to do it in the northern part of the state. Seen it from time to time down here in the SW, but the Cincy area is different like that.

 

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

As is Ohio, we are permitless now. On the other hand, I could see some of the ranking being because you have to use straight walled cartridges for hunting. It's a consequence of most of the state being flat, a .308 is going to end up somewhere, potentially a long ways off somewhere. We have castle doctrine, basically, but only for your home, and while open carry is legal, I don't know if I'd want to do it in the northern part of the state. Seen it from time to time down here in the SW, but the Cincy area is different like that.

I know population dense Midwest states can have straight walled (including shotgun) zones. A few years back in southern MI I was shocked to learn they're actually a shotgun only zone. Also I believe they have a magazine capacity limit but I didn't bother learning about that as my shotgun can only hold 5 anyways. I do know at least the upper peninsula is a rifle zone however. State was also a permit state for concealed carry but they seem to have a lot of reciprocity. I suppose the map was right in that regard, if anything you'd think the states with constitutional carry would be marked a bit more favorably.

Metal or pvc pipe with printed rubbery baffles should be very quiet but probably have longevity issues.

I feel like a monolithic internal rubber baffle + wipes system would be really good for cutting down weight but something with aluminum spacers/chambers would certainly save you material costs. Replacing that shit eventually turns into a subscription service unfortunately. I think TFB did a decent video on that one new welrod type gun that had replaceable wipes and they were so good at first that it'd actually trap gas until you unlocked the bolt and it'd make a hiss sound.

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

I feel like a monolithic internal rubber baffle + wipes system would be really good for cutting down weight but something with aluminum spacers/chambers would certainly save you material costs. Replacing that shit eventually turns into a subscription service unfortunately. I think TFB did a decent video on that one new welrod type gun that had replaceable wipes and they were so good at first that it'd actually trap gas until you unlocked the bolt and it'd make a hiss sound.

Yeah, wipes are definitely superior in regards to performance but they don't last very long. For the B&T Welrod-inspired pistols (VP9 and Station Six) they use a really thick wipe material, probably 3/16", but even in a bolt action with 9mm subs they're only good for a few magazines. Thankfully it's easy to make new wipes, you can just order a sheet of the material online and buy a punch to cut them out as needed, but apparently you need to destroy the old ones before cutting a new one so you can't just have a handful of them ready to go in your gun-case for a fun range day, at least if you care about being a good boy. Feels like a super bullshit rule and it's not at all intuitive

For weight-to-performance I've seen 9mm micro-suppressors, like 2" long, not much more than a single baffle, that use a wipe system that seem to have fantastic performance for the size as long as you pack them with grease. They're basically keychains (and one of them even came with a keychain attachment and had medical markings on it for concealed carry), but you get maybe five rounds out of them before they're not doing much and by the time you're on your second mag they're just totally blown out

 

[Big Brutus]

We have castle doctrine, basically, but only for your home

Nope. Castle doctrine applies to motor vehicles too, per ORC 2901.05.

On the other hand, I could see some of the ranking being because you have to use straight walled cartridges for hunting.

I could hunt deer with a revolver chambered in .38 Special, given it has at least a five-inch barrel, but 9mm is no bueno. It's a very retarded regulation.

It's a consequence of most of the state being flat, a .308 is going to end up somewhere, potentially a long ways off somewhere.

ODNR has apparently never read a ballistics chart, because .45-70 is legal to hunt with and has near-identical ballistics to .308 when comparing certain loads. Like I said, it's a very retarded regulation. It gets even more retarded when you realize that you can legally take nuisance animals with any cartridge you want.

and while open carry is legal, I don't know if I'd want to do it in the northern part of the state. Seen it from time to time down here in the SW, but the Cincy area is different like that.

Basic geography isn't going to matter at all, it's just going to be more acceptable in rural areas. That being said, I did see a guy openly carrying a Glock in a nylon holster at a Golden Corral in Columbus a few weeks ago. I stay concealed 24/7.