Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Internet-Based Lobotomy]

Listen if you're happy Vietnam era technology I'm sure it'll be fine - I don't trust a subcontractor to make a proper flow through supressor.

With all the 3D printed designs now they just have to have properly calibrated machines. Seeing as how availability and tooling costs are the biggest limiter to supply this would be a good thing or one would think. Not like every single component is made in house at all of these places anyways, there are SOT certified subcontractors after all. Unless you think there's something else that's an impossible task for specifically flow through suppressors?

Saar Saar please buy törkish shottygun made of my ditch feces Saar

If the NFA was axed I think for most people a Turkroach and Chinkoid clone of a good suppressor at half the cost and in aluminium instead of titanium would elicit few complaints. "Works for muh use case."

An empty 1 liter soda bottle packed full of 000 steel wool works much better than one would expect, even just electrical taped on the end of a .22 rifle.

In Minecraft, of course.

Or in real life if you pay your $0 tax stamp.

 

[Bassomatic]

So much politics nonsense. Ugh. Well, so I think a lot of you know me when I pop in. But local smith who was the guy who built (more like unfucked) my Bren and is a super guy is offering an AR night... I built a few (all of them aside my LaRue) I hate to sound full of myself but it's not hard... thing is with law changes and I'm going to swap my LaRue to a piston upper because it's SBR stamped now and I have a can.... maybe I can learn? I mean making a PSA build I can do blind folded.. but if he's offering this class I think's above it.

What do you all say? Esp, His Sandwich self.

Also in good news 300 more rounds of my 9x18. I just re did the red for hot.. I'll upload a picture next free second. Hope you're all well gun frenz.

Also Hunters Lodge has FR8s... I'm legit wanting a second, if you don't own an FR8 no matter what youre into for guns.. get one. They kick ass.

 

[AGPinochet]

I am unsure if the stipulation was retained in the current version of the bill but from what I read previously the $0 stamp doesn't go into effect instantly, but instead it goes into effect 90 days after the end of the current fiscal quarter.
Which If I am not retarded means January 2026.
Now this stipulation (if retained in the current version of the bill) could cause a few things to happen

1. People panic buy suppressors in an effort to get ahead of what I will describe in point #3
2. Manufacturers will be given 5 months to buy as much raw material, machines and tools, hire as much staff (for 2nd and maybe even 3rd shifts) and stockpile as much inventory as possible in order to prepare for
3.Formageddon
What is "Formageddon"? Formageddon is a hypothesized event that I literally just made up that is theoretically forecasted to begin as early as Midnight on New Year's eve 2025. It's start date cannot be accurately pinpointed because it is dependant on how lazy the ATF is on preparing the E-forms system for a deluge tens if not hundreds of thousands of Form 1's and 4's (and whether or not the fiscal quarter language has been retained in the bill), stress on the system could be further exacerbated by every Silencershop Kiosk in the country being besieged on New Years Day. Formageddon could realistically last until February or March of 2026. Think of it, how many Suppressor virgins are tucking away cash for that OCL, Surefire or CAT they're eyeing? Thousands, tens of thousands, A few months from now, maybe even hundreds of thousands

Every suppressor company is going to post their best month, no, quarter ever

 

[Bogliacci]

Every suppressor company is going to post their best month, no, quarter ever

My local shop doesn't think there's really going to be much of an uptick compared to what happened when the wait times shortened to just a few days.

 

[Bassomatic]

Yeah, I'm lost with this can someone post a full where we stand post?

Because is it just cans? If not I'll "free" stamp all my rifles just cause no one can promise I won't chop them down.

Now other side is because it's still stamp supressor makers still need those permits etc.. vs joe blow and or random gun makers... while you can't say home make a can, nor can a non permited corp like say hi point or kel tec (picked them because cheap and not crap)

I didn't want to get into political of if but drinking because i'm on vaca.

 

[Bogliacci]

Because is it just cans? If not I'll "free" stamp all my rifles just cause no one can promise I won't chop them down.

Its cans, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs now have $0 tax stamps. You still have to go through the rigmarole of finger prints, picture, forms etc

 

[Bassomatic]

Its cans, SBRs, SBSs, AOWs now have $0 tax stamps. You still have to go through the rigmarole of finger prints, picture, forms etc

Eh, I'm already a dozen stamps deep... I'll file for all of them if they come for them... moldy labia.

But for real knowing I could swap another AR to a commado etc is kino. Still sorta gay and when gunz aren't OK anymore ... that price will skyrocket. ugh.

 

[Bogliacci]

My only hesitation is I dont want to deal with engraving shit I hate doing that crap

 

[AGPinochet]

Yeah, I'm lost with this can someone post a full where we stand post?

Because is it just cans? If not I'll "free" stamp all my rifles just cause no one can promise I won't chop them down.

Now other side is because it's still stamp supressor makers still need those permits etc.. vs joe blow and or random gun makers... while you can't say home make a can, nor can a non permited corp like say hi point or kel tec (picked them because cheap and not crap)

I didn't want to get into political of if but drinking because i'm on vaca.

From what I understand Suppressors, SBR's and SBS's still require tax stamps but now have $0 (Zero dollar) fees for Form 1's and Form 4's

My local shop doesn't think there's really going to be much of an uptick compared to what happened when the wait times shortened to just a few days.

Your local shop has never seen every suppressor across the board get a $200 discount. For SBR's and SBS's there's not a supply constraint, barrels can be hacksawed (SBS's) and sent off to the local gunsmith (SBR's) and Magpul can always make more stocks. Cans need baffles milled and welded together and then have a tube sleeved over them and in turn welded on, mounts need springs and ratchets, they need bar stock for muzzle devices and HUB adapters. This isn't even getting into printed suppressors, many companies subcontract their printed designs to just a handful of companies that actually own their printers, printed designs while allowing for amazing performance and designs is fundementally limited in production capacity
Here's the 5 month projected/planned production totals for CAT Suppressors from a year or two ago

 

[Bassomatic]

My only hesitation is I dont want to deal with engraving shit I hate doing that crap

My penis is only 11.7 inches so I had to get it engraved.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

If not I'll "free" stamp all my rifles just cause no one can promise I won't chop them down.

Keep in mind SBRs have travel restrictions

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

So much politics nonsense. Ugh. Well, so I think a lot of you know me when I pop in. But local smith who was the guy who built (more like unfucked) my Bren and is a super guy is offering an AR night... I built a few (all of them aside my LaRue) I hate to sound full of myself but it's not hard... thing is with law changes and I'm going to swap my LaRue to a piston upper because it's SBR stamped now and I have a can.... maybe I can learn? I mean making a PSA build I can do blind folded.. but if he's offering this class I think's above it.

What do you all say? Esp, His Sandwich self.

Is it just a build night/class? If you've already assembled a couple of ARs and it either went smoothly or you learned what not to do already, I'm not sure what you'd get out of the experience that you haven't already figured out - as you noted, it's not hard and the tools are all readily available and not particularly expensive. The only thing that I have that isn't a "well no shit you're going to need one of those" tool for AR building is this super long roll pin starter punch, which is specifically for installing the bolt catch pin without marring the lower.

That said, it's an opportunity to hang out and shoot the shit with a bunch of people building rifles, which could make it potentially worthwhile as a social event, so why not?

 

[Club Sandwich]

if i have the hammer cocked back and pull the trigger when the safety is engaged the hammer will fall the moment i disengage the safety. should i hound beretta?

something is wrong, the Bobcat of any make (21A, or 20X) has never had a decocker and the function you described is a malfunction. cease using the pistol and if you are able to, deeply inspect the arrangement between the safety and the protrusion from the hammer. likewise the hammer strut should be fit neatly into the hollow on the underside of the hammer and not off to one side, which can cause it to drop unexpectedly when it isn't being properly supported.

if you're unsure or unfamiliar, i strongly recommend sending the gun to a qualified gunsmith for repair. it's a simple gun, but problems are not obvious to diagnose without detailed disassembly which is tedious and prone to flying parts.

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

I've owned a glock for 5 years now and have only ever taken it to the range a few times, truthfully I don't really find it that fun to shoot (after the novelty wore off) and it's only purpose is just for home defense. Every now and then we get mountain lions and coyotes and you never know what you'll run into hiking in the mountains. Anyway, a cucked brit was lamenting the fact burgers can buy an AR-15 for $500 in the states and it got me thinking. I figured with pride in the USA returning what better way to celebrate than to buy something that would be a little more fun to shoot at the range? I asked ChatGPT what kind of firearm would be good for an enthusiast and I'm pretty sure I'm on Sam Altman's list of naughty boys now, but it did mention something about looking for an AR with .22 instead of the NATO 5.56 just due to the price of ammo being cheaper in the long run. What did you guys start out with for a good rifle? What do you guys like consistently shooting at the range the most? From my limited understanding the AR-15 can be ship of thessius'd and is super customizable without being too overwhelming for beginners.

Was looking at this one but I have no idea about the vendor (Palmetto State Armory).

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I've owned a glock for 5 years now and have only ever taken it to the range a few times, truthfully I don't really find it that fun to shoot (after the novelty wore off) and it's only purpose is just for home defense.

That's what they're known for; Nothing fancy and they get the job done. If you get bored shooting it that means you're good with it.

I asked ChatGPT what kind of firearm would be good for an enthusiast

don't do that

What did you guys start out with for a good rifle? What do you guys like consistently shooting at the range the most? From my limited understanding the AR-15 can be ship of thessius'd and is super customizable without being too overwhelming for beginners.

Generally speaking everyone's first purchase is going to be terrible, my first gun was a Mosin Nagant way back when they were still under $100.
My favorite range gun - if I had to pick one it would be a dead tie between the Beretta 92 and the 1911. Rifles don't give me the same joy anymore.

As far as the AR-15 goes, the important part is that the lower receiver is the serialized part. The upper, which includes the bolt and the barrel, can be shipped to your house. So you can use an upper chambered in anything that uses the AR-15 patterned magazine. The leading suggestion is to buy an AR in the configuration of an M4, basically what you picked out. Very light, very capable. The only downside is that it's comparable to a Glock in that it gets boring because it just works.

The go-to "fun" gun in the US is a lever action rifle. You cannot not have fun with one. Buy a Rossi R95 or R92/Heritage 92 in .357, buy a bunch of .38 Special round nose and you will have genuine fun.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

What did you guys start out with for a good rifle?

My first rifle, the first gun I ever bought, was a Ruger 10/22. They're a lot of fun to shoot, there's a large aftermarket so you can customize them to your heart's content if you want, it just works, and the gun and ammo are both very affordable. If you want a rifle to shoot for fun you really can't go wrong with a 10/22.

What do you guys like consistently shooting at the range the most?

The gun I shoot the most is a SIG Mosquito (now sold as the GSG Firefly - use good quality high velocity ammo only (CCI Minimags)), mainly because the closest good range to me is pistols only so I don't take my rifles out much.

 

[Polock]

What do you guys like consistently shooting at the range the most?

.22LR stuff is fun because its low recoil and cheap. I have an AR-15 that I can convert to a .22 with a drop in bolt and special magazines, its a lot of fun to shoot. You could also get a Ruger 10/22 its the AR-15 of .22s - lots of aftermarket stuff available. The only downside is that .22LR is dirty so you'll be cleaning your stuff more.

Revolvers are fun because loading and unloading them is fun.

Shotguns are fun if you're shooting clays.

lever action rifle

I dont personally own one but they are a lot of fun as well.

An additional thing to consider is that you could do fun stuff with your gun. IDPA, IDPSA, SCSA (and others but these are just the ones in my area) are all competitive shooting events that involve things other than standing and poking holes in a target.

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

This is great guys, thank you. Since I'm dipping my toes into this I'm leaning towards the 10/22 since it seems like a good starting point for rifles. I'm super tempted to pull the trigger on the lever action but they seem like twice the price of the ruger so that may be my next in line. I've been watching some videos on the 10/22 and it just looks super fun to shoot (but then again so does the rossi r95) and I've noticed a lot of people kit them out ridiculously lmao. Getting the extended mag seems pretty cool, is there anything else you guys would recommend? Also on their website there's a dozen different versions of it, if my primary goal is to use it at the range/hunting small game innawoods which model would you recommend and what kind of additional after market parts would be best?

 

[WhoBusTank69]

if my primary goal is to use it at the range/hunting small game innawoods which model would you recommend and what kind of additional after market parts would be best?

Get what you think would be most comfortable, you can slap whatever parts onto it and changing stocks is relatively easy. The cheapest and most basic is probably the best for you if you think you're going to be changing it up but if the more fancy variants(I like the look of the natural hardwood/stainless* but that's just me) call to you, go for it. Just make sure the metal finish is something you enjoy because that's harder to change in a permanent fashion.


*I don't own one but I'd probably get this if I did want one. A semi-auto .22 doesn't activate the dopamine like my single shot bolt action.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

What do you guys like consistently shooting at the range the most?

I find myself shooting my ruger Mk4 with suppressor a almost twice as much as all the rest of my guns put together, it's just a lot of fun.

if my primary goal is to use it at the range/hunting small game innawoods which model would you recommend and what kind of additional after market parts would be best?

I shot a lot of turtles in our fish pond with a 10/22 after the bastards ate the fish off the stringer one summer. With my eye's getting worse I'd put a red dot on it and probably call it good.