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GeorgeHWBush said:
Siggers BTFO
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I don't trust my P320 and never buy anything Sig anymore; but the video isn't as definitive as Protra makes it out to be.

Much of the testing in their own report they describe as unreliable. The striker safety probably warrants looking at but it doesn't explain guns just going off as the 1st and 2nd sear surfaces would have to fail as well.

I don't think we will personally ever explain what the fucks going on cause the entire P320 is a mousetrap of parts with shit QC.
 
HelpingNoone said:
it doesn't explain guns just going off
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You are somewhat implying that these guns are just going off in austere situations like sitting on a countertop or stored in a gun safe. I haven't heard anything like that. Its always the dramatic holster discharge. As far as I'm concerned, the part of the report that demonstrates putting minimal pressure on the slide and minor trigger manipulation can cause the striker to fall explains it. I don't understand why but it does create plausibility for why a holstered gun could discharge in a set of circumstances that is completely mundane and just a bit unlucky.

Also local archive of the FBI's Ballistic Research Facility report of the Michigan State Police Sig Sauer M18 / P320 incident.
 

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Me as a recovering sigger (only have one early production P229 now) watching Ron Cohen burn the company to ashes
 
I will say again, it's a fucking travesty that Sig USA is allowed to tarnish the name of a proud quality Swiss company Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft.
 
Taser Confetti said:
Why do you still own that piece of shit? At this point I'd sooner have one of those 100 dollar bill Hi Points than one of those things.
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At this point, I just wouldn’t buy Sig products out of principle, even if they fix the P320, and even if some of their other products are decent. Sig just generally seems like a scummy company that sacrifices safety and quality for profit and which seems strangely ingratiated within the military-industrial complex, which seems to get them preferential treatment.
 
HelpingNoone said:
I don't trust my P320 and never buy anything Sig anymore; but the video isn't as definitive as Protra makes it out to be.

Much of the testing in their own report they describe as unreliable. The striker safety probably warrants looking at but it doesn't explain guns just going off as the 1st and 2nd sear surfaces would have to fail as well.

I don't think we will personally ever explain what the fucks going on cause the entire P320 is a mousetrap of parts with shit QC.
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The P320's discharge issue can be explained in two simple words. Jeet Parts.
 
Seafarer said:
At this point, I just wouldn’t buy Sig products out of principle, even if they fix the P320, and even if some of their other products are decent. Sig just generally seems like a scummy company that sacrifices safety and quality for profit and which seems strangely ingratiated within the military-industrial complex, which seems to get them preferential treatment.
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My first handgun was a P229 in .357SIG mostly because I was a massive X-Files nerd and figured .357 had to be the best caliber ever since US Air Marshals and my State Troopers used it. Shame how the mighty have fallen.
 
Taser Confetti said:
Making a Cali Cuck pistol grip on your ghost gun doesn't make it any less illegal in Cali.
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It kind of does. Manufacturing an unserialized weapon is a wobbler (felony or misdemeanor, depending on circumstances and DA), while an unregistered assault weapon is just a straight up felony.

Would you rather get caught speeding, or get caught speeding while drunk?
 
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Taser Confetti said:
My first handgun was a P229 in .357SIG mostly because I was a massive X-Files nerd and figured .357 had to be the best caliber ever since US Air Marshals and my State Troopers used it. Shame how the mighty have fallen.
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Was the .357 sig featured in the X-files? I remember Mulders season 1 glock and then the S&W 4506 after that and scully's PPK.
 
Particle Bored said:
It kind of does. Manufacturing an unserialized weapon is a wobbler (felony or misdemeanor, depending on circumstances and DA), while an unregistered assault weapon is just a straight up felony.
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They banned "ghost guns" and didn't even make it an automatic felony? Guess they were afraid they'd lock up too many groids with Polymer80's.

Romulus augustulus said:
Was the .357 sig featured in the X-files? I remember Mulders season 1 glock and then the S&W 4506 after that and scully's PPK.
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Scully used a P228 .40 cal - since the difference between it and the P229 is borderline zero and I liked .357 Sig more that's what I went with.
 
Foley said:
I will say again, it's a fucking travesty that Sig USA is allowed to tarnish the name of a proud quality Swiss company Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft.
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>Really love Swiss firearms
>Want a genuine Swiss made SIG 551
>Look on GunJoker
>That'll be 7000 shekels

It hurts so fucking much. IIRC prices are that bad here just because GayTF ended up slashing JDI Firearms by the ankles so they could only bring in so many "pistols" (rifles without stocks) into the country at once.
Maybe if I fly my ass to Switzerland and annoy Karl Brügger enough he'll import them through B&T for the low low price of 5000$ before a scalper markup of another 3000$.
 
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