Mega Rad Gun Thread

Polock said:
Yeah that's what I was thinking it was, although if it is I don't see anything for actually managing the water. There's no way that's a suppressor for a quad barreled thing in any case. It has to be something to do with heat management, even if its just an insulated sleeve to help out the optics or something I dunno.
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Why do you say that? Other than the giant fireball. The M134 has a suppressor in the works for example so multi barreled things getting suppressed isn't exactly out of the question. I'd guess it was a heat sleeve for dissipation so the heat haze doesn't obstruct your view but it goes for far enough that I'm not actually sure.
 
Alright boys, I officially own an SBR. The stock arrived today while I was at work and I took it in to get the laser engraving as soon as I got home from work. Got it all put together. I went with a Vector Gen 2 stock modified by Haga Defense to mount to 1913 rail instead of that socket mount the Gen 2 Vectors have. It's temporary until the Lingle Industries ExoLock stocks become available again, which won't be for a couple of months at least. I think I'm going to need a riser for the EOTech. I also need a weapon light for it eventually. It'll be either a Scout Light Pro or the 1000 lumen version of the X300 with the adapter for a remote pressure switch.

Photos. Just ignore that little white piece of paper covering up the laser engraving.

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AGPinochet said:
Some lawyer speculates that it could theoretically be possible for SBR's to become cheaper than normal rifles due to an u intended loophole in regulations surrounding Firearms excise taxes
https://blog.princelaw.com/2025/07/...han-rifles-a-possible-side-effect-of-the-bbb/
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While there are numerous factors considered when setting the price of a product, among those factors are taxes. In this case, the relevant tax is the Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET). Pursuant to the Section 4181 of the Internal Revenue Code, a manufacturer, producer, or importer is required to pay a 10% tax on the sale of all pistols or revolvers, and an 11% tax on all other firearms and ammo. However, this tax does not apply to any short barreled firearms if the NFA transfer tax specified in Section 5811 has been paid.

Fortunately, with the passage of the BBB, the tax under Section 5811 will soon be set to $0 (January 1, 2026). As a result, short barreled rifles (and shotguns) will not be subject to the Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax levied on rifle manufacturers, nor will they be subject to the $200 transfer tax previously levied on purchasers.
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This is neat and all, but I don't see it actually being all that useful. A 11% tax on the sale of a $1000 rifle equates to $1,110 total. Whereas a mere $1000 SBR requires me to:
  1. Fill out an application I would otherwise not have to
  2. That can be rejected for whatever reason
  3. Can be incorrectly filled out, such as mistakenly providing wrong info, which is a crime
  4. Informs the government I own said SBR, or am seeking to own one
  5. Opens up the possibility that said info can be gotten by a third party
  6. Requires me to accept warrantless searches of my home by BATFE
  7. Requires me to inform BATFE of cross state line travel
  8. Leaves me open to future chicanery of some unforeseen sort
Simply having to fill out, and be approved by the form process makes getting a SBR more of a hassle than it should be. Furthermore this assumes the manufacturers don't simply mark up the SBRs to within the same price as the regular rifle. A 1,110 dollar rifle is better than a 1,109 dollar SBR and mandatory form. Unless the cost of the $1000 rifle included the tax baked in, and the SBR as a result would be 100 dollars or 200 dollars cheaper, I don't see the advantage. Even then, telling the government I have a fighting rifle doesn't seem worth it. I'm glad the tax is gone, its a win that most would not have said was possible even a year ago. However I personally don't see the value here. Maybe others have a better grasp of the implications, and will point it out for the thread's benefit.
 
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Internet-Based Lobotomy said:
Why do you say that?
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Because it looks like it was fabricobbled alongside the rest of the mount. Also in one of the shots you can clearly see a muzzle flash, which you probably wouldn't see if it was suppressed. That's sort of the entire point of the suppressor right - you are trying to avoid all that gas from burning outside.

Not knowing the true purpose of that weapon (is it just some experimental thing being tested out or is it some field expedient weaponry born of necessity) doesn't help with my speculation.

If its some guys fucking around I could totally see a guy with a welder and a torch cutting up RHA from a nearby failed Русский Space Program wrecks into baffles and making some improvised suppressor....but I doubt it.

The Dude said:
I also need a weapon light for it eventually. It'll be either a Scout Light Pro or the 1000 lumen
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Are those mlok slots on the forward hand guard? Are you going to put any sort of grip on the front? Also why in the world do you need a riser for your EOTech?

The black and red looks great.
 
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World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Requires me to accept warrantless searches of my home by BATFE
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That's not true, There is a TTAG article saying that is not true from a decade ago. That only applies to FFL's.
I also understand the sentiment regarding registration but let me ask you this, have you ever bought literally anything gun related with a credit card? Have you ever spent an inordinate amount of time looking at gun media, gun websites and gun related products (such as, I dunno, The Mega Rad Gun Thread?), have you ever been a member of a Gun rights group, state, local or Narional? Have you ever applied for a Range membership? Ever fill out a 4473?
The Government knows you own guns

Polock said:
which you probably
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Even the highest tech, bleeding edge, top of the line, most advanced suppressors have muzzle flash, It wouldn't be impossible for an artisinal model on a quad barrel mini gun (that is firing probably decades old 7.62x54R) that fires at thousands of rounds per minute would have a not insubstantial amount.
 
World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Even then, telling the government I have a fighting rifle doesn't seem worth it. I'm glad the tax is gone, its a win that most would not have said was possible even a year ago. However I personally don't see the value here.
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That's a conclusion that a lot of gun owners have come to IMO. Ever since the inception of braces they've become increasingly effective as pseudo stocks without any of the hassle of registration. Just looking at the CNC warrior brace that can fit onto any 1913 rail, you can pretty much get up to the line before it magically becomes a "stock" through some Talmudic legal invocation. The thing I worry about the most would be having NFA items made retroactively illegal across the board and having no grandfather clause shoed in. Then the Feds would have you dead to rights with none of the guessing that would have to go on via glownigger surveillance. Before you interject - yes, they (the government) would in fact be crazy enough to use an existing registry to fuck millions of gun owners with no recourse, maybe not now but if the political environment changes? No thanks.
AGPinochet said:
have you ever bought literally anything gun related with a credit card?
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This is the one thing they'll get you on full stop. Don't buy guns with credit cards, frens.

But if we really go down the paranoia pipeline the only way to buy any gun stuff would be with cash via a private party using a burner phone and a car with a fake plate while wearing a balaclava. LOL.
 
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Polock said:
Good to know, I stand corrected then. I knew that line of thinking was a bit flimsy but I always thought there was gas but the actual muzzle flash was basically gone.
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Flash can be for all practical purposes be eliminated in certain circumstances (At Noon in the Arizona desert for example) as the sun is the biggest photonic barrier of them all. However, in pitch blackness (or in an environment dark enough to be practically pitch black) you can have a muzzle flash in various levels of intensity in "forms" ("pencil" like on a Surefire RC-2, "slightly offensive to the eyes fireball" with various lower end suppressors, or "gout of flame like that of an M2 flamethrower" like a Surefire RC-3 with any muzzle device that isn't an open tine 3 prong.

Even imperceptible flash isn't guaranteed for ever single round fired (gas build up, round to round differences, suppressor wear, carbon build up). This isn't even getting into the magnification of light through night vision.
 
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Picked up this lightly used Smith and Wesson M&P Shield Plus Carry Comp (what a mouthful). Added a green Holosun EPS Carry green circle dot.

I think the compensator helps, should be a fine niggerblaster for years to come
 
Polock said:
Are those mlok slots on the forward hand guard? Are you going to put any sort of grip on the front? Also why in the world do you need a riser for your EOTech?
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Yep, those are M-Lok. And the handguard can be removed to make installing accessories easier and to ensure that the nuts align properly with the slots. I haven't decided if I'm going to mount a foregrip yet. RailScales has got some that I really like that are machined aluminum. They also have a hand stop/barricade rest that I'll probably get even if I don't end up running a VFG.

As for the EOTech, if you look at the factory SBRs and SMGs of the Vector, you'll notice that the stock mounted to them typically has a dog leg shape where the buttpad is mounted much lower than the cheek piece than on your typical stock. That's because with the way the Vector is shaped, with a normal stock mounted the 12 O'clock rail and thus the sights are really low down, so you have to have to place the buttpad much higher up on your shoulder in order to align the sights. That's the issue I'm running into with this stock: the EOTech is sitting too low for me, so I need to raise it up so that I can shoulder the thing normally (and comfortably) while also being able to sight through the EOTech properly.
 
Club Sandwich said:
i prefer the gen 3 prototype stock or the ALM stock from A3I: https://a3industries.com/modular-folding-stocks-1913-mount-folding-stock/
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I didn't care for the stock that the factory SBR/SMG/rifle version of the Gen 3 comes with. I don't know if thats the prototype stock, but it just looks cheap and flimsy to me. I considered the ALM stock, but wanted something that had an easily adjustable length of pull so that my youngest son can shoot it when the time comes. I know they have another stock like the ALM that has an adjustable LOP, but it looks like to adjust it you have to undo two screws so that the two parts of the stock will slide to adjust the length and I just didn't care for that. The Lingle ExoLock stock is what I'll eventually put on it. They're just out of stock and won't be available again for at least two months from what Lingle themselves told me, so the Gen 2 stock is just temporary so that I actually have the damn thing in a usable configuration.

Edit: For the record, this is the stock that comes with the Gen 3 Vector if it's a rifle, SMG, or factory SBR. It is adjustable for LOP, but I just don't like it. I think it looks cheap and flimsy. They tried to make it more like the OG Vector stock with the dog leg shape and I just think they missed the mark with it.

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I'm in the market for a Glock 19C for some reason, and I'm waffling over just buying a complete one (Gen 3), or building one out of a 19C upper onto a Gen 5 lower. The difference is about $150 or so, but the Glock Store has colored lowers for a wildcard, so anything I build will be on either a tan or green lower, because reasons. The Glock Store also has Gen 3 OD lowers in stock, so that's an option, too. I was really leaning towards the Gen 3 until I handled one again compared to a 5, I really forgot how fucking slippery the Gen 3 texture is. The groves on the 19 aren't nearly as obtrusive as on the 17, imho.

No, I don't want a Radian Ramjet, fuck you for suggesting that. Imagine needing tools for basic maintenance on a hand gun, miss me with that bullshit.
 
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BikeLock said:
No, I don't want a Radian Ramjet, fuck you for suggesting that. Imagine needing tools for basic maintenance on a hand gun, miss me with that bullshit.
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Lmao I picked up one of these because Radian has a supposedly decent reputation and I wanted to see if my Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS could get even better. That piece of shit fucking compensator took my 99 percent reliable 19 and turned it into a turd that can't even cycle 115 GR anymore. Oh it'll run 124gr FMJ and it makes +P a breeze to shoot but anything not loaded hot as fuck? Forget it. Biggest disappointment I've ever had with an "upgrade." Meanwhile my MP5 clone and SPC9 will run the grimiest mystery substance shitter ammo made with powder sloppily crafted by Turkroach dwarves with ease.
 
This guy apparently is the first to get footage of the Rogak P-18 on camera (haven't checked this claim)
(its an extremely shitty Steyr GB clone)
Look at this galaxy-brained manufacturing here
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