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Jesus Goldstein said:
Nice. What is the chassis and scope you are using for the M1A?

Edit: NVM, I zoomed the photo in - US Optics 1-6x and Sage chassis?
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It's actually a 1-8x US Optics LPVO, and yes a Sage EBR chassis. It is basically a Mk14 Mod0 clone built up from an LRB M14S barreled action, not an M1A. Everything on it is built to milspec, including the receiver, bolt, and op rod being properly forged instead of investment casting like Springfield uses for the M1A. The trigger group is USGI made H&R. I did all the work myself. I may eventually get a different scope for it, and I want to put a bipod on it.
 
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
 
God's drunkest driver said:
According to the screenshot, it's an unequal tolerance band, biased toward under nominal. +.05mm -.10mm or roughly +.002"/0.004". Realistically the .05mm true position tolerance with Max Material Condition modifier would be more troublesome than the distance between the edges of the "rails". On such a small, precise part, you're using progressive dies and with good process control and tooling including quality inspections, it does not look like a difficult spec to meet IMO. Especially since it's biased toward undersized so with good tooling designers and process control, you can bias your production to result in slightly under nominal parts where the tolerance band is larger and avoid any over max condition parts that would have to be corrected by machining or discarded if they violate the true position + MMC.

Obviously, I'd need to see the whole drawing including the notes to give you a full breakdown on whether the FCU frame is actually a hard part to meet spec on, and would need the drawings for every part in the FCU and slide to tell you if a within spec worst case stack would be unsafe (it shouldn't be, that would be a major engineering blunder). A full stack up on every part involved would be damn time consuming though, so I wouldn't want to do it lol
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There are plenty of stamped parts that are more complicated on other stamped guns. The tolerances for a stamped part like that are pretty generous. Almost all parts of ammunition are stamped and formed with tolerances that at an order of magnitude tighter. SAAMI publishes the dimensions for every accepted caliber and ammunition companies have no problem turning out millions of parts a day. This is very much a design and manufacture issue.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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I debated the same a few years ago and just went Romanian - specifically a RH-10 (basically a WASR with a front sight gas block). Fit and finish is not awesome, but it runs and runs and is reasonably accurate. Stuck a microdot on a rear sight leaf mount, some hilariously mismatched furniture including paracord wrap and hockey tape for that post-apoc style and love the damned thing. Not sure what they're asking now, but for the $600 I paid, I'm a fan.
 
Smoke Manmuscle said:
There are plenty of stamped parts that are more complicated on other stamped guns. The tolerances for a stamped part like that are pretty generous. ... This is very much a design and manufacture issue.
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That's the perplexing part, and I guess why all of these experiments make it that much more difficult to focus on more plausible issues. Nobody knows how it's failing because of how weird it is, and in theory it's set up to be very safe even with all the weird springs and allowing for minute dimensional issues. It seemed to have worked out just fine at least before it won the contracts, I specifically remember the first P320 I handled to have no slop and minimal gaps while the current productions may as well be a shipment of bobbleheads, but that was also before the innumerable stealth updates that have been pushed through as well as the trigger upgrade.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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I'm personally not a fan of Kalashnikovs. Had my fill of them when I built them for Vector Arms many moons ago. But, personally, if I were going to buy something derived from the AK I'd get a Galil ACE. AK reliability with a high standard build quality and modern conveniences, such as a safety selector that you don't have to move your hand to manipulate.
 
Local gunshop has slashed the prices of all new p320s, even the ludicrously expensive ones with their retarded siglok footprint optics on them that cost like 1000 bucks without the gun. And I do mean slashed, I was told that the most recent one they got in the shop is now $50 below what they paid for it. the rest are even steeper. They want them GONE
 
I was actually thinking about buying a P320 a while back, but my own retardation saved me (because I dismissed the idea after finding out the subcompacts are discontinued). It's funny because iirc SIG always kept advertising the "modular" aspect of that piece of shit when in reality the parts are either unobtainium or so outrageously expensive that you'd be better off decking-out a police trade in Glock.

Yes, I'm aware of the P365. It looks like shit.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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Good luck. Unpopular opinion: AKs aren't worth what they cost, and haven't been for like a decade. Much like just about every piece of soviet milsurp, the prices are completely insane. Stamped AKs being $1,000 is unbelievable.
 
The Dude said:
I'm personally not a fan of Kalashnikovs. Had my fill of them when I built them for Vector Arms many moons ago. But, personally, if I were going to buy something derived from the AK I'd get a Galil ACE. AK reliability with a high standard build quality and modern conveniences, such as a safety selector that you don't have to move your hand to manipulate.
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Isn't the whole point of a Kalashnikov to get it "for the vibez"? If you want to have an AK but just something that is more modern, just get an AR or some other PMAG-adaptor (sorry for using Karl the Cuck slang here). I'm not saying don't modernize a Kalashnikov, but you are inherently getting an inferior rifle platform, might as well accept that. Getting a Galil ACE would be for a different reason, because it's a cool thing to try to modernize that platform.
 
Bogliacci said:
Local gunshop has slashed the prices of all new p320s, even the ludicrously expensive ones with their retarded siglok footprint optics on them that cost like 1000 bucks without the gun. And I do mean slashed, I was told that the most recent one they got in the shop is now $50 below what they paid for it. the rest are even steeper. They want them GONE
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According to Canadian Lawyerman's investigating, a jury agreed that the Sig P320 is defective in design and the cop who shot his ball off should have known better than to have it in his waistband without a holster. People are already putting theirs up for sale out of worry, when this gets around they'll be radioactive.

Foley said:
Isn't the whole point of a Kalashnikov to get it "for the vibez"?
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Second, if I bought an AK it would be a crap WASR that has all the visible machining, the caveman-tier thick ass underfolding stock and a canted front sight block.
Fuck paying for trench art furniture I have the puukko and alcohol to do it myself.
 
I shot my deep FRTd MP5 for the first time. Holy shit it is fun.
Ordered from ASdesigns May 21, so about a 70 day lead time. We'll worth the wait. Machining and finish is nice, laser engraved 3 position supersafety marking is tidy as well.

For $650, it's a pretty nice product. I will definitely pass it down to my children, assuming I don't lose it in a freak boating accident.

I'd post a video, but muh opsec. Besides, there's plenty of videos of similar setups out there.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
According to Canadian Lawyerman's investigating, a jury agreed that the Sig P320 is defective in design and the cop who shot his ball off should have known better than to have it in his waistband without a holster. People are already putting theirs up for sale out of worry, when this gets around they'll be radioactive.
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With the big point being that if one Jury agrees that P320 is defective, what stops another Jury agreeing similarly in a case where the cop doesn't appendix carry it? Especially when he then showed a case where the gun was in a holster and not hugging the balls.
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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THe only AKs I recommend to people anymore is the Galil ACE.
I lost one in .308 during a boat accident.

Galil762.webp

Or Hunt down a Russian one.
saiga223.webp
 
DoNotFeedTheSneed said:
Thinking of getting an AK. I already know the basic advice (i.e. don’t buy American because basically every American made AK is shit), but I’ve still yet to narrow down the exact model I want specifically. I’m currently torn between a WASR-10 that’s been sitting in my local gun shop and a WBP Jack.

Either way, I already know how I want to set it up. I’m going to replace the handguard and grip with Magpul MOE stuff, replace the stock with a Zhukov, and get a Holosun ARO and put it on a side rail mount. I just don’t know what rifle I’m going to put all that stuff on. (Was also considering Zastava but I don’t want to bother with getting a bunch of proprietary stuff for it)

There’s pros and cons for both. The WASR is cheaper and it means that I don’t have to deal with the insanely high transfer fees in my area, but the WBP has a much better finish, much better QC (from what I’ve heard), and I can get the WBP without any furniture.

What do you guys think I should go with?
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I am totally biased towards Zastava and yugoslavian pattern AK type rifles after getting mine and actually using it. The massive downside is that it is not compatible with many AKM parts and accessories, but I think there's enough quality Yugo pattern options to justify the purchase. If you must have a standard Russian style AKM, then I would highly recommend just buying the higher quality rifle; I did a lot of looking into the WASR and there are way too many problems and duds out there to justify the cost of what you're getting.

So, if I was you, and Zastava wasn't an option, I would go with the WBP out of those two options. If I was me, and Zastava wasn't around, I would just splurge and get an overpriced Arsenal AK instead.

God's drunkest driver said:
Good luck. Unpopular opinion: AKs aren't worth what they cost, and haven't been for like a decade. Much like just about every piece of soviet milsurp, the prices are completely insane. Stamped AKs being $1,000 is unbelievable.
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I agree that if you are concerned about overall bang for your buck, an AK in today's world is a poor choice, and should probably just get a 5.56 AR or 9mm carbine. That being said, I love mine, and I think that if someone wants that Soviet coolness, they are still worth the price of admission. Additionally, 7.62x39 is a great cartridge for pretty much anything a civilian could want it for, and is better than the lame and gay knockoff that is 300 blackout. I have actually been thinking about getting a shorty 10", as well as the .308 Zastava AK variant, and their M91 7.62x54r knockoff Dragonuv as well.
 
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