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Normal people don't own supressors.
Who the fuck cares what normies do?

If you go out to the range more than 1 time a year it automatically puts you in the 90-95th percentile of gun owners in terms of rounds shot. If you actually go to the range and deliberately train on a fairly regular basis it probably puts you in the 99th percentile of proficiency. Normies like consooming - sure they buy guns because they're a hecking based conservachud but they never use them.
 
look at this bizarre Mauser.
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it has two barrels. One rifle (9.3x72) and an under-slung 12 gauge barrel.
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Turn the crocodile and the shotgun barrel swings open! truly one of a kind and obviously the product of a master gunsmith.
 
I’ve been very underwhelmed with B&T. B&T is literally European Keltec.

I’ve had great luck with my CMMG radial delayed 9mm although I have a sample size of 1, and other people have had issues. I recently got the Broad River integrally suppressed barrel and really enjoy it. I have MP5SD shooting experience with AR ergos.

Aside from that there is a reason the MP5 is so well regarded.

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They shoot ok I guess
I've heard nothing but good things about CMMG even though that's the one PCC I never got to try. As for B&T the biggest hurdle people have when looking at any of their actual guns is the insane price you're going to have to pay to get your hands on one. People like to chide them as Booger and Vomit, Eurocuck Keltec etc etc but I've never had a single issue functionally with any of their guns. I've shot my APC10, SPC9, GHM9, TP9, and have owned multiple APC rifles but I've never had them choke on me or disappoint me in regards to the reliability or accuracy. The SPC9 is sweet because it has near MP5 recoil but is able to run any dogwater ammo out of the worst magazines money can buy while having some AR compatible parts. If only the price was something reasonable like their average PCC costing just south of 2k then they'd be a no brainer. The best part is that if you ever get tired of them you can sell them for some hefty cash because people see "Swiss made" and cream themselves I suppose. Value wise though for the money? Meh.
 
Does anybody put lasers on shotguns? Seems like a good idea for indoors use if you don't wanna block any FOV
Why bother? Shotgun is the easiest thing in the world to shoot.

look at this bizarre Mauser.
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Turn the crocodile and the shotgun barrel swings open! truly one of a kind and obviously the product of a master gunsmith.
Thats sexy as fuck
 
On the subject of asshole local fudd gunshops I got ripped off for a pin and weld the other day.
i charge $75 plus tax for for a pin/weld job with a cold blue retouch and courtesy inspection and cleaning. a better refinish or if you have something obnoxious to work on nets a $25 additional.

some places are a little cheaper but typically won't refinish or offer a courtesy clean. i really hope you didn't part with more than a bennie.

speaking from an earlier post, i think for the gun community in retail stores, there's just been a lot of old boys club gatekeeping combined with being constantly demonized by new people who do dumb shit and sue or blame them plus leftward lurches in policy that threaten real PMITA prison for screwing up paperwork combined with generally low margins and escalating costs to run a brick and mortar store combined with increasing insurance and then activist groups that picket your store or when some dumbass kills themselves or someone else and makes the news or you have to deal with manufacturer bs that takes even more money out of your pocket.

then add in grumpiness creeping in with age and watching that same situation fuck over your friends too.

while i sympathize, the people that are actively hostile to customers and keeping the sport, hobby, and industry alive and strong should just retire entirely and get out of the business. most are too stubborn to do it though.
 
Shotguns are an experts weapon for defense. High recoil, low ammo, and manual cycling requires a high degree of skill to be effective with.

The myth that it will destroy anything in the general direction you point it is pure fuddlore. Even with a short barrel and open choke you will get fist sized patterns at the distances inside your house.
Favorite "advice" I had heard over the years from the clueless is that merely hearing the sound of a shotgun being racked is enough to send criminals invading your home fleeing.
 
plausible explanation was to why S&W didn't put brass deflectors or dust covers on Gen 1 M&P Sports?
primarily cost. during the time the M&P Sport was first coming to market, S&W was OEM sourcing the upper and it was cheaper to get one without the FA or dust cover and S&W did a solid and lowered the price of the rifle on the market.

Steel AR recsivers? How come nobody's ever done that?
it's been done several times. early receivers from Sendra, Olympic Arms, BFI, and some others were offered in stainless with black oxide and birdsong coating. however the stripped lower receiver alone is 42 ounces or so combined with costs of manufacture vs aluminum alloy. for a little while you could get stamped steel AR lowers, but this was dumb and the AR-18 was better if you wanted a stamped steel gun, or just get an HK roller-delay or AR-180 or AKM or something.
 
the people that are actively hostile to customers and keeping the sport, hobby, and industry alive and strong should just retire entirely
Ironically, the LGS I mentioned missing was ran by an older guy and he was amazing. He cut me a lot of deals on some of my first guns and walked me through the Silencer Shop process. Current closest LGS is ran by a guy in his mid 40s who just seems to be angry at the world for online shopping existing. I get that it's probably not fun to try to compete with big name retailer prices and it must sting to have to transfer someone a gun that you have in stock yourself, but he definitely doesn't do himself any favors with his customer service.
 
Fuck. I really really hate saying anything positive about .300blk buuuuuuut.... if your use case is home defense and you are very concerned about your ears, 6" barrel .300blk with a can is pretty much the ticket.

But don't do that. Use a suppressed SBR in 5.56 that won't live under your bed. You don't need special guns. You need one good one that you actually shoot.
.300 BLK is an excellent suppressed SBR platform for shooting people inside a building. Personally I think that with current prices on 7.62X39 that 110-125 grain .300 BLK out of a 16" barrel easily outperforms that round and would probably save the end user some cash. That said, whatever you're going to use to defend your home, make sure you regularly train with it.
look at this bizarre Mauser.
Even though I wouldn't want something like this even if I could afford it, it's damn cool firearms like this exist.
Favorite "advice" I had heard over the years from the clueless is that merely hearing the sound of a shotgun being racked is enough to send criminals invading your home fleeing.
That one is up there with "just shoot them in the leg." If you ever get the chance, try this with willing training partners and some simunitions. I think you'd be surprised at how these situations go.
I get that it's probably not fun to try to compete with big name retailer prices and it must sting to have to transfer someone a gun that you have in stock yourself, but he definitely doesn't do himself any favors with his customer service.
I've never run a gun store personally, but one thing I understand about sales is "offer something people would be interested in buying." There's likely a good number of things a local store could do to attract and retain customers that an online retailer couldn't hope to match. I would think that'd be a facet of a local shop's retail strategies so they could reliably turn a profit.
 
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I've heard nothing but good things about CMMG even though that's the one PCC I never got to try. As for B&T the biggest hurdle people have when looking at any of their actual guns is the insane price you're going to have to pay to get your hands on one. People like to chide them as Booger and Vomit, Eurocuck Keltec etc etc but I've never had a single issue functionally with any of their guns. I've shot my APC10, SPC9, GHM9, TP9, and have owned multiple APC rifles but I've never had them choke on me or disappoint me in regards to the reliability or accuracy. The SPC9 is sweet because it has near MP5 recoil but is able to run any dogwater ammo out of the worst magazines money can buy while having some AR compatible parts. If only the price was something reasonable like their average PCC costing just south of 2k then they'd be a no brainer. The best part is that if you ever get tired of them you can sell them for some hefty cash because people see "Swiss made" and cream themselves I suppose. Value wise though for the money? Meh.
The guns run fine but for the most part they are direct blow back guns so it’s hard to mess that up. The pricing is just insane for a direct blowback gun.
 
Fuck. I really really hate saying anything positive about .300blk buuuuuuut.... if your use case is home defense and you are very concerned about your ears, 6" barrel .300blk with a can is pretty much the ticket.

But don't do that. Use a suppressed SBR in 5.56 that won't live under your bed. You don't need special guns. You need one good one that you actually shoot.
I don't see anything wrong with 300 blackout for a home defense AR build. Especially for suppressed use. Optimal, maybe not, but a fine option among too many.
 
I don't see anything wrong with 300 blackout for a home defense AR build. Especially for suppressed use. Optimal, maybe not, but a fine option among too many.
The problem is people want a dozen guns for these niche applications. Most of the time they don't even shoot them enough to get through the teething process of identifiying problems with the gun itself, much less memorize their holds on that platform.

It means divesting your funds and training instead of gitting gud with a single platform that does damn near everything pretty close to optimal already.

I would never tell anyone to get .300blk because in the long run you just aren't getting much return on your investment of time and money.
 
Except for when you’re out at the range pick up a conversation that you think is right next to you but in reality is actually 15 feet away and you make a comment standing by absolutely no one making you look schizo
That's alright, those guys already know I don't take my meds.

15k and you can buy it!

honestly that's probably asking too much. it is a one of a kind firearms but it's a complete unknown, and there can't be much of a market for it. I think 5-7k would be more appealing.
Don't you just love idiots who confuse "rare", "scarce" and "one of a kind" with expensive?

Favorite "advice" I had heard over the years from the clueless is that merely hearing the sound of a shotgun being racked is enough to send criminals invading your home fleeing.
That's one of those things that worked once or twice, and now exists as urban legend. Well, great grandpappy did it when those teenage hooligans broke into his home in a 99% white town of 5,000 people back in 1950. So it'll definitely work for you current bughive resident!
 
Don't you just love idiots who confuse "rare", "scarce" and "one of a kind" with expensive?
its all over the firearms market and it really bothers me.

Colt firearms are particularly badly infected with it. A colt percussion revolver (besides the Patterson, Walker or Dragoon) is not worth 2,000 dollars or more unless it is in new condition or a cased set or engraved by a master.

when their production numbers are combined, Colt made at least 1,000,000 1849 Pocket models, 1851 navies, 1860 armies, and 1862 police revolvers up to 1876 and then built cartridge conversion revolvers from left over parts until the 1880s and 90s. I can't see paying much more than 1,500 USD for an average condition one.

and then you've got all these Drillings and Vierlings, and they are usually high quality but they sit on the market for weeks and months because most sellers price them at ridiculous prices like 5k and up.

I'm sorry they are just not worth that much. Especially if its from a no-name provincial maker or one of the huge conglomerates like JP Sauer or Merkel or even Krieghoff (which was not a solely luxary shop in the past). 2,000 to 3,500 is where most should be priced. Even less if its un-engraved or has finish loss. A plain Merkel drilling in common config (16x16x9.3) that has most of the finish gone from the action and barrels is not worth 4,000!

they all smoke crack I swear!
 
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