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I saw it the other day. Would be nice to have, but you could easily buy four or five other nice rifles and still have some money left over. Just not worth it in my view.
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Romulus augustulus
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i tend to agree.
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Ex Keltec Engineer Tobias Obermeit has showed off new pics of his .22 Belt fed prototype and revealed it's a MAC upper
CR-15 DIY Bufferless rifle prototype
The designer also has a "traditional" model (middle) that I guess is similar to a Hoffman Orca (bottom)
This is supposedly a fully functional .22 single shot. Dunno how you're supposed to reload it even semi quickly unless You're supposed to have several printed with rifled liner barrels you're supposed to swap out after firing.
Someone commented something genius after seeing this, someone should design some fun little gun that uses all the HK trigger packs discarded in favor of AR FCG utilizing super safety compatible designs.
Stealth Ballistics weight kit for Magpul UBR
Internal view of the blast baffle of an obsolete before release (they've decided to further enhance the design before bringing it to market) 9mm DMLS suppressor dubbed "Kalil" by Stealth Additive
This is a 100% real gun, it was apparently made for Commando (1985) but never appeared in the movie
Sureshot Spear with AK-12M1 FCG and Selector
Suppressor is a Rex Silentium
Prototype Bufferless 5.56 handgun
VZ. 53 with thermal
Issue 7 of the GunCAD Digest
The guy behind the MBAR is putting the project on hiatus due to health issues
In case you were ever curious, A woman has touched a KAC Chainsaw
Ammo testing for the Lima Six belt fed
CR-15 DIY Bufferless rifle prototype
The designer also has a "traditional" model (middle) that I guess is similar to a Hoffman Orca (bottom)
This is supposedly a fully functional .22 single shot. Dunno how you're supposed to reload it even semi quickly unless You're supposed to have several printed with rifled liner barrels you're supposed to swap out after firing.
Someone commented something genius after seeing this, someone should design some fun little gun that uses all the HK trigger packs discarded in favor of AR FCG utilizing super safety compatible designs.
Stealth Ballistics weight kit for Magpul UBR
Internal view of the blast baffle of an obsolete before release (they've decided to further enhance the design before bringing it to market) 9mm DMLS suppressor dubbed "Kalil" by Stealth Additive
This is a 100% real gun, it was apparently made for Commando (1985) but never appeared in the movie
Sureshot Spear with AK-12M1 FCG and Selector
Suppressor is a Rex Silentium
Prototype Bufferless 5.56 handgun
VZ. 53 with thermal
Issue 7 of the GunCAD Digest
The guy behind the MBAR is putting the project on hiatus due to health issues
In case you were ever curious, A woman has touched a KAC Chainsaw
The guy behind this claims to have models in the works for the Ruger PC Carbine and at least one of the .22 MP-5 lookalikes
No idea, Rebels have the momentum and thus are in a constant need of new arms. They also hand them out to villagers who aren't actively under arms
Ammo testing for the Lima Six belt fed
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I'm well aware. I've been carrying for much of my adult life with the smallest gun I've personally carried being a full size GLOCK. My current carry guns are a Dan Wesson Specialist, which is a full size 1911, and a Staccato P. Years ago I carried a Smith and Wesson Performance Center 627 V-Comp, which had a 5" barrel and a compensator on the muzzle. All of them in OWB holsters, though I do have a shoulder rig for the Dan Wesson and a second identical one on the way for the Staccato.
No, my reasons for not wanting to carry my Mark 23 are not its overall size, but more how bulky it is, and because it's kind of a sentimental gun for me. It's probably my favorite pistol that I own and I don't want anything to happen to it.
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sometimes you just have to meme carry.
i'm currently debating on making an OWB "bear" gun based on a custom shop MR BFR in .475 Wildey with hexagonal profile 6.5 ported barrel, 5 round cylinder, and a modified PRG grip. this might replace my Desert Eagle as a backup gun for hunting boar and other dangerous game. i plan on making the ammo from hornady XTP copper monolithics with leftover .284 win and .450 bushmaster cases further cut down and resized. my fun little .45 win mag USP project works good but it was mostly as a project and not for actual use.
Internet-Based Lobotomy
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I've fired a PTR GI. It's probably just me but I've noticed it had a much more pleasant recoil impulse compared to a carbine buffer tube equipped AR10 I've fired. I'm talking .223 vs 12 gauge out of the same ammunition between the two.
I've just always thought it was a bit funny. I guess it's a sad fate that it'd wrap around to the one thing the FAL was weak at that even nations that used them as fighting rifles would quickly drop them in favor of something else as a DMR. I mean even the terrible M14 got revived and Frankensteined into the DMR role.
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In fairness to the M14, it legitimately beat the FAL in US testing. It's when it hit production that everything fell apart, followed by clumsy optics mounting.
It's been slapped around by both rumor and myth so long that it's hard to believe anyone who harkens back to history in any way.
At least with the FAL there's a relatively unbiased observation of the few decades of use by the UK and minor usage in the middle east.
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Sure, I was more pointing out that despite the accuracy issues with the M14 the US military decided to just make the gun more accurate.
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Here's something I'm curious about. Kel-Tec's new pistol is fed by stripper clips to be legal in shithole states.
Why not just copy the Garand and go with a full en-bloc clip?
I could easily see a 9mm being fed by a 17 round en-bloc clip being a good choice for the poor bastards stuck in the shitholes of America.
Why not just copy the Garand and go with a full en-bloc clip?
I could easily see a 9mm being fed by a 17 round en-bloc clip being a good choice for the poor bastards stuck in the shitholes of America.
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Nice! Tell me about the holster, please.
Goddamn. If the bear doesn't die it'll leave that fight deaf and scared.
Speaking of clumsy optics mounting, anyone see that Statham movie "Working Man"? There's a gunfight sequence where his character is using an M14 with some sort of optic mounted (maybe thermal or something). It's mounted so high above where his cheek weld is that he's plainly not looking through it the entire fight. The mount is setup correctly but in the stock they have on that rifle there is no chance one can use it with anything other than a chin-tip-weld.
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I had to look it up, it does look funny.
It looks like a high cantilever mount like a Bassett, not a 3 point mount, so you can probably see the irons below that rail. Haven't seen the movie so I don't know if it makes more sense in context for him to use the super high mounted thermal optic than the irons.
Romulus augustulus
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Bed the stock and don't take it out unless you absolutely have too is the way to go with an M14. it's an old world rifle its got its quirks.
DocAwe
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That's why the language has been changed from "high capacity magazine"
To "ammunition feeding device".
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Ok, now how do you get the en-bloc out? The great Mr. Garand's solution is the iconic ping. Not sure how you would add that into the kel-tec design.
The entire purpose of the en-bloc system was to give conscripts an easy means to rapidly load a rifle. Not the slow, single round at a time, like with a tube magazine. No expensive, and easily lost detachable box magazines either. However, once the rifleman has fired all his shots, and wants to reload, how do you get that piece of metal out of the gun? Most designs simply have a hole in the floor plate. Overall its a neat design, but once you start using it in say... the muddy trenches of world war one, its stops being all that neat. However having that hole in the bottom of the grip just opens up Kel-Tec to accusations of "this just another high capacity magazine capable gun" or some other bullshit gun grabber nonsense.
I'm sure there is a way to do it better than Kel-Tec did, but I don't know what it is. Besides, we need more odd goofy gats in the world. "I can't believe its not glock!" is a little too over played at this point. I just hope they make it in nine.
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It was a Mernickle custom OWB holster. It the belt panel was plain black leather, but the "bucket", the part that actually houses the pistol, was all spinal stingray skin, so it had the white stripe going down the length of it. It was a really nice holster and I wish I still had it, but I think I sold it along with the PC 627. It was my first custom leather holster and it definitely convinced me that a good quality leather rig is the ONLY way to carry concealed. Mernickle makes good shit, but Nightingale Leather is my favorite holster maker.
Among Us Gaming
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The thing I find curious about these sorts of psuedo obscure guns, is that it means they have (in theory I suppose) ammo for them, meaning that somewhere out there in various places is fairly decent supplies of 8x33 still hanging around
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glass bedding and selection of parts for consistent clearances worked pre 2001, but after that for the EBR we switched to cast aluminum mounts (similar to an aluminum bed) and guide rod (just like accurizing an M1 for NM), with a shim kit. unlike the more traditional M70 or M24, you can't really pillar the action at all. a lot of the M14 DMRs were converted in this way, but the M21's were often left alone since they were meeting the requirements without modification.
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I very much do not need a shoulder holster setup but you telling us about Nightingale has sorely tempted me to order one for my incoming Christiansen custom.
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BREAKING NEWS
I got a reply back from the curator. They have both the prototype and the finished model.
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I don't think this has been talked about here before but as many of you know there is an (alleged) effort to make (mostly) clone correct copies of the VSS/AS Val by the Latinx (alleged) ex Pill and Meth addict Brice Ronze of BSD Fabworx. Mr Ronze has a to say the least checkered history with the NFA Community and appears to operate a shitty little machine shop out of his garage. He will most likely never, ever, produce a commercially viable VSS/Val reproduction for a variety of reasons including his delusional view of metal stamping ("Stamping metal is just like folding paper")
But there may be another hope
Enter Paul Allen Smith, who most know as "Nucking Futs Yuri" an American who has lived in The Ukraine since 2012 and is a member of the Ukrainian Army. He has a residence in Texas as well. He has talked about reproducing the VSS/VAL for commercial sales in the US after the SMO ends. He appears to have much bigger and better toys available to him and as far as I can tell has never smoked meth. The best part is he has real (damaged and De-milled) examples of a Val and VSS each, not some shitty slapped together kit build whose parts are sourced from a blank firing toy made with cast parts and completely different FCG and bolt than a real Val/VSS
He first brought up US made Val/VSS reproductions in a video posted a little over two years ago, claiming to have partners and investors as well as 3D models made from the guns in his possession
Relevant part starts at 35:22
Here's a video from January 2024 talking about plans, discussions and meetings during and after SHOT
Here's a video showing his much more capable personal machine shop
And here's the video that prompted me to write this segment of this post. Posted 16 hours ago he essentially says from 2:20 onwards "sorry guise too busy can't make cool guns until SMO is over"
President Trump! President Putin! Tag team fuck The Ukraine to death so this guy can make cool guns and make a latinx methhead seethe
The Jews have officially adopted the Sig Saar (Phool Sapport Ijrael Saar) MG-338 and there's some footage in the news release showing it in the Gaza Strip.
A couple months ago I found this article from Kalashnikov Magazine but I forgot about it and it got lost in all my tabs
It is mostly about submacineguns designed by this fellow V. E. Zubkov and wholly in Russian so I'd thought I'd Google translate it and post the relevant parts along with the accompanying photos
The failed 'tandem'. Zubkov's submachine guns.
This is the second model of his design (there doesn't appear to be any photos of the first model but there are descriptions, technical details and a magazine diagram)
First model statistics and characteristics
-Open bolt
-Chambering: 7.62 Tokarev
-Magazine Capacity; 60
-Length with Stock folded: 545mm (21.4in)
-Length with stock unfolded: 780mm (31.7in)
-Height with magazine inserted: 230mm (9.05in)
-Barrel Length: 250mm (9.84in)
-Weight without magazine: 2.56kg (5.64lbs)
-Weight with unloaded magazine: 2.95kg (6.5lbs)
-Weight with loaded magazine: 3.28kg (7.23lbs)
-Bolt Weight: 0.688kg (1.51lbs)
-Bolt travel: 96mm (3.77in)
-Rate of fire: 726 RPM
-When field stripped # of parts is 4, total system has 22 parts
"The main feature of Zubkov's submachine gun was the design of the magazine. The magazine is double-row, made in the form of a rectangular box with a long follower, on which five cartridges were lined up in a row. Above them, another row of five cartridges was placed, and so on—until the magazine was completely filled (60 cartridges)."
"Diagram of the feeding mechanism of the submachine gun of the first model designed by Zhukov from the NIPSVO report."
"The magazine-fed weapon designed by Zubkov operated as follows. The feeding of a round into the chamber by bolt "1" was carried out from the nearest (front) round in the magazine to the breech end of the barrel. At the same time, as the front round was fed, two spring-loaded feed lips "2" connected to the bolt pushed all other rounds in the row forward by one step. Thus, the previously positioned round behind the one fed into the chamber became the new round in the chamber."
"When the bolt recoiled after a shot, the spring-loaded feed lips lifted above the cartridges in the magazine and moved over them, eventually settling behind the base of the cartridges with their catches at the end of the recoil. In the forward movement of the bolt, the cycle of moving cartridges in the magazine was repeated. After firing a row of cartridges in the magazine (either right or left), the feeder raised all the cartridges in the magazine by one step, positioning a new unfired horizontal row (level) of cartridges against the bolt. If firing continued, the cycles of the submachine gun's bolt and magazine operation were repeated."
"The sample of the first model of the Zubkov submachine gun was tested at NIPSV. During this, firing in bursts was ensured, but it was not possible to achieve stable operation of the automation — an unacceptable percentage of jams was recorded. The main causes of this included missed cartridges by the bolt, cartridges skipping forward in the magazine by inertia, and the bullets jamming into the chamber of the barrel."
"Moreover, it was found that the weapon with Zhukov's magazine is not safe to handle, as it permits the possibility of igniting cartridges in the magazine from the impact of a bullet from the rear cartridge hitting the primer of the front cartridge.Despite the unsuccessful outcome of the tests, the range did not reject the very idea of a high-capacity magazine of Zhukov's design, and the author was given a second attempt to develop a more advanced sample of the weapon, producing it at the production base of NIPSVO."
"In the new submachine gun, Zubkov used a simpler tandem two-row magazine. The magazine is designed as a rectangular box divided by a vertical partition into two sections (compartments) arranged one behind the other. Each compartment has a separate feeder, allowing the cartridges to be placed in two rows (in a staggered order). Both compartments of the magazine were loaded with cartridges in the usual manner.The capacity of Zubkov's new magazine decreased from 60 to 40 cartridges, but overall reliability increased."
The magazine of the second model submachine gun of Zubkov, loaded with cartridges. Photo by VIMAIViVS.
Second Model Statistics and characteristics
-Open Bolt
-Chambering: 7.62 Tokarev
-Magazine Capacity: 40
-Length with Stock folded: 531mm (20.9in)
-Length with stock unfolded: 836mm (32.9in)
-Height with magazine inserted: 162mm (6.37in)
-Barrel Length: 250mm (9.84in)
-Weight without magazine: 2.24kg (4.93lbs)
-Weight with unloaded magazine: 2.58kg (5.68lbs)
-Weight with loaded magazine: 3.01kg (6.63lbs)
-Bolt Weight: 0.542kg (1.19lbs)
-Bolt Travel: 84mm (3.3in)
-When field stripped # of parts is 5, total system has 18 parts)
"The submachine gun with an improved magazine designed by Zubkov functioned as follows. The magazine with cartridges was attached to the weapon from below and secured with a spring-loaded latch. The feeding of a cartridge into the chamber by the bolt was carried out from the nearest (front) section of the magazine to the breech of the barrel. At the same time as the cartridge was being fed from the front section, a special projection-feeder on the bolt shifted forward by one step and placed a new cartridge from the rear section of the magazine in its place. Thus, during firing, the first (top) cartridge from the front section of the magazine was fed into the chamber first, and thereafter cartridges from the rear section began to be consumed. After the cartridges from the rear section of the magazine were exhausted, the bolt commenced to feed cartridges from the front section in the usual manner."
"The magazine of the second model of the submachine gun Zubkov in disassembled form."
"The main drawback of the Zubkov magazine, revealed during testing, was the need to load both sections with an equal number of cartridges. Otherwise, after the cartridges in one section (especially the front one) were expended, the feed of cartridges into the chamber would stop, and firing would cease. This is unacceptable for a combat weapon."
This concludes the section of the article about the Zubkov submachinegun, with only the relevant details included
However at the end of the article there is a short segment about mother similar guns
Namely the Volkov-Chukhmaty and the OC-53, no detailed information is provided about the guns so I'll just post their photos.
Volkov-Chukhmaty
OC-53, designed at Tula by Vladimir Zlobin, which I'm pretty sure is the same Zlobin that played a large role in designing the infamous AK-12 prototype
It's my understanding that 99.9999999% of all Sturmgewehr's in Syria were seized from one government warehouse (I want to say near or in Aleppo but have no source for this) during the earlier parts of the Syrian Civil War. Terrorists found them packed in grease, undisturbed for decades after Syria received them (I want to say 5000 or so) as Military aid from Czechoslovakia in the 50's. Syrians never got around to using them or pawning off them off to some guerillas so the terrorist forces used them until they shot most of the ammo up so now they're mainly bought and sold as collectors pieces.
Thank you so very much you have made a serious contribution to firearms history, please ask them if there is any way they (the curator) or the museum staff could take a high quality photo of the gun. Better yet, give them Ian's contact info and tell them that they could immortalize Mr. Lisk and preserve history by letting him do a video on it.
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