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Also, get plenty of reps in drawing your gun and finding your sights. Might feel silly at first, but its valuable training.
Any skills with a firearm are perishable. One should get training and then practice consistently.
Then you get a CZ.
Don't forget Beretta or the Sig P series.
carry a python OWB
Which Python are you carrying?
I can fully recommend most CZ pistols, if they're in your budget. Otherwise, go for a bog standard Glock 17, ammo is never an issue, easy to use and modify, pretty too

If you're interested in shotguns, consider a Benelli, the M4 and M2 are great (but prone to rusting in moist conditions, prep for that)
The Benelli shotguns are good but I'd suggest the Beretta autos are better. The current gen 1301s are best and the current gen A300s are a close second.
Another thing is ammo, and I can't stress this enough; NEVER BUY RELOADS OR REMANUFACTURED AMMO. EVER.
I don't disagree that one can have a serious problem with reman ammo but I wouldn't consider it automatically more likely. It depends on the source. I've been buying and shooting a whole lot (5 digits, easy) of Defender Ammo's reman stuff for years and it's never been a problem. In fact, their reman rifle stuff is rather good for that category of ammo.
Lets set the bare minimum at an M&P-15 at least. Lets not send people down a bad path of having to purchase tools and replacement parts.
The Ruger ARs are alright too and warrant a look.

@Null, one thing you can mention on your podcast is that those looking for a new firearm are well served by looking at used models or police trade-ins. A lot of people buying firearms and either leave them in the safe and trade them in later or carry them a lot and shoot them very little. This means these weapons are often in excellent condition for a very discounted price.
 
I have finally gotten something I have been waiting a long time for, A relatively clear image of the Bullpup LAMG prototype Trey Knight had when Cody Curry went to go hang out with him. Previously all that existed was a few seconds of blurry, out of focus footage shot from a long distance



Keeping on the KAC Train, at the recent TBAC Silencer Summit KAC apparently had three unreleased suppressors, the CRS-3 (the CRS-2 hasn't even been released yet), the MCQ-2 and a prototype HUB mount .30 suppressor (QDC HUB adaptor a possibility now?)
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CRS-3 stats
Host: 16in DD rifle
Ammo: Lake City M193
Db: 138.8 (TBAC also does all testing in a big sheet metal barn and their testing criteria has been criticized as flawed and inaccurate before so interpret this as you will)
Length: 6.25in
Weight: 17.7oz

Here's the stats KAC claims regarding the unreleased CRS-2 on a 14.5 firing M855
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So the CRS-3 looks to be a slightly longer, slightly heavier, allegedly better performing sound wise version of the CRS-2, interesting that KAC is having generational improvements on a product in catalogs that they haven't released publicly yet.

For the MCQ-2 it looks like KAC shortened the locking collar to increase volume while achieving the OAL (The longest dimple chain on the MCQ-2 has 10 dimples, while on the MCQ-1 has only 7) or KAC could have made the dimples smaller I dunno
TBAC also claims that KAC achieved a 5db sound reduction to 148 from 153 with a length of 4.5in for both models and a reduced weight of 14.5oz (from 16.3l for the MCQ-2

The Hub mount Prototype has a listed length of either 8.88-9in, weight of 16.8oz and a db rating of
124db with a 16in .300 Blackout bolt action (presumably shooting subs)
138.5db with a 26in .300 Win Mag bolt action
134.6db with a 20in .308 bolt action

Link to all TBAC Data

One last stop on the KAC Train, KS Series dealer pricing leaked and MSRP for KS-2/3 uppers is below what SR-15 uppers go for now. KAC has been wanting to gain market share so this makes sense, will you be able to buy uppers at anywhere near these prices any time soon? No.
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Here's a similar rifle at Fort Benning equipped with a MFMD Suppressor and what looks to be the rare and obscure Vortex "Elanor" LPVO (Same one for the UKSF KS-1 Contract). Where's the XM-157?
The images of this rifle were removed from DVIDS but were uploaded to the Army Marksmanship Unit with the Elanor and MFMD censored, very curious.
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One other thing, this looks to be as far as I know the best look at the mounting solution for the MFMD
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AK-12SK
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Colt Canada C8 and C20 MRR's with MFMD's (there's too many sightings of these things in conjunction with too many advanced firearms for them not to be legitimately amazing suppressors)
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ARES/Fightlite AMG-3, now with ambi controls and side pivoting feed cover
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A-545
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Reinforced 10/22 FRT
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A guy is trying to reproduce the Fostech drum but with a capacity of 25 instead of 20
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Groyper Special Forces during the First Groyper War circa. 2019 (colorized) (latinx who is in some way affiliated with Mexican Drug Traffickers)

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Iraqi's molested a Sturmgewehr
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Chief of the Russian National Guard, Viktor Zolotov, fires an RPL-20
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MicroMOA "Govnah" adjustable gas block, uses a sliding plate with 2-3 ports drilled in it
According to the creator Griffin Armament has purchased the rights to this design and will be releasing an improved version of it


Defense Industry insider Gregory Knowles is claiming that Sig Saar's "5.56 MAX" loading has 28% more velocity than normal from an 11.5" barrel. This works out to an 11.5" having the same muzzle velocity as a 20". Absolutely cannot be fired through legacy firearms






 
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Friday on my podcast I'm going to encourage everyone to buy firearms. If you would like to give suggestions for first time gun buyers, please concisely reply to this post. Keep in mind different states, different budgets, and different situations. Are you particularly passionate about city self defense in California? Do you have three different high quality firearms for Texas? Give me some diversity here. Don't be cringe.
I live in Oklahoma, a constitutional carry state, so it's trivial to get guns and ammo here. Twice a year Tulsa hosts the Wanenmacher's Tulsa Arms Show, the biggest gun show in the world. I'd recommend checking it out at least once if you can (if you do PM me and I can give you more info about what to do in the Tulsa area). There's a ton of cool stuff there. One vendor I saw had traveled there all the way from Australia!

For 9mm, a lot of people have recommended the Glock 19. It's excellent but be sure to compare how it feels in your hand to the Glock 17 (the same gun but a tad larger) to see which feels better. If you have larger hands you will probably want the 17. I also highly recommend getting a MOS (Modular Optic System) variant if you can since they come with easy ways to mount sights. Glocks in general are very nice due to the monumental amount of aftermarket accessories and support. Glock magazines are particularly desirable since many non-Glock firearms are compatible with them.
The most current generation is five, but I believe generation three has the most aftermarket support. You can regularly find police trade-ins for under $400 and brand new ones should cost you an absolute maximum of about $550.
The brick is reliable. The brick is affordable. The brick is your friend. Embrace the brick.

For shotguns, a Maverick 88 is both cheap and reliable. You can usually find a combo kit with both a sporting barrel and a security barrel for under $300 (before taxes, shipping, and transfer fee). Another great choice is the Mossberg 500 or 590.

For plinking, get yourself a rifle and/or pistol chambered in .22 LR. The Ruger 10/22 is a semiauto and the gold standard in affordability and reliability, but a threaded barrel (highly recommended, for attaching a suppressor) is a bit more expensive. It also has a retarded amount of aftermarket accessories and support. So much so that you could build a custom one for yourself completely from scratch. I own a Henry (whose motto is "Made in America or Not Made at All" btw) lever action .22 and it's super fun to use. I got the large loop variant (Model H001L) because it's more comfortable to action.

The AR-15 is a meme gun because it's everywhere. And it's everywhere because every part is customizable. The price range is huge so do your research before you buy. Also make sure it's chambered in 5.56 rather than .223 Remington. This is an important distinction because guns chambered in 5.56 can shoot both 5.56 and .223 but guns chambered in .223 can only shoot .223. Shooting the wrong caliber through your gun can destroy your firearm, which can kill you.

If you want to try something even more memetic, go to a pawn shop or gun show and find an old milsurp rifle. I own a Kar98K and it's super fun to shoot. My Dad describes it as a shoulder-mounted cannon because it makes little craters when you shoot the ground. Though be aware of the price of ammo and that the price for non-corrosive ammo will be significantly more expensive. Corrosive ammo is fine to shoot but requires that you clean your gun after you shoot it so it won't damage your firearm's usability or longevity.

For ammo, use AmmoSeek. As of today (9/12/25), for brand new ammo, the cheapest ammo you can buy for the most popular calibers is about:
~$0.20 - $0.25 each for 9mm
~$0.05 - $0.10 each for .22 LR
~$0.32 - $0.35 each for both 12 gauge and 20 gauge shotgun shells
~$0.37 - $0.40 each for .223 Remington
~$0.39 - $0.42 each for 5.56x45mm NATO
Important to note that different types of ammo excel in different circumstances and will cost different amounts per shot.

You can reload ammo (or manufacture your own new ammo) but it'll take a while to recoup your costs from buying the primers, powder, brass, bullets, machinery, and tools. This is mainly recommended for people who are really into self-sufficiency but does save money in the long run if you're a prolific shooter.

BUY EAR PROTECTION AND USE IT!!! Unless you're shooting subsonic (about 1,125 ft/s at sea level and room temperature--altitude and temperature do effect the speed of sound) ammo out of a gun with a suppressor a single shot can and will damage your hearing. I was a retard and wanted to know how loud my Glock 17 would sound without ear protection and a single shot made my ears ring for 3 days straight.

Now you've got your gun(s) and your ammo. The important thing to do now is to practice shooting them. Indoor ranges are nice but usually don't allow shotguns. If you have the space for it I would recommend buying targets and setting up your own shooting range. Targets and their accessories go on sale all the time.


TL;DR:
Glock 17 or 19
Maverick 88 or Mossberg 500/590
Ruger 10/22
AR-15 chambered in 5.56
AmmoSeek
Dragon Targets, ShootingTargets7, and Shoot Steel
r/gundeals (surprisingly useful)
 
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but why do they look like dicks?
Engineers used computers to determine that apparently this is the best suppressor they could make in a given set of parameters
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I've seen this thing on a
-Issued URGI
-KAC LAMG
-XM-250
-FN IWS
-C8 MRR's
-MCX's
-Issued Canadian SF precision rifles
And now a rifle that may or may not end up being designated M7A1

These funky little suppresses are clearly making waves behind the scenes, are they literally the best suppressor ever made? I dunno, as far as I know there's not any publicly available video displaying sound or flash performance, but they're clearly doing something right to be garnering all this attention.

Speaking of them actually, could someone who is better at searching up NSN Numbers look into two items for me,

NSN 1005-01-732-4671 (2025/07/30)P/N MFMD-375EN-3.2-MDSD-FDE

NSN 1005-01-732-4672 (2025/07/30)P/N MFMD-375EN-9.2-KIT-FDE

Because these apparently correspond to MFMD variants designed around advanced sniper rifles in the .375 "EnABELR" cartridge

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Lets set the bare minimum at an M&P-15 at least. Lets not send people down a bad path of having to purchase tools and replacement parts.

I know I'm a newfag when it comes to gun ownership (had some premonition to buy a 10/22 and an AR-15 in the summer) but I've seen a lot of people expouse how much they like the PSA AR's that are surprisingly high QC for the price. Since I started getting into this hobby I've gone autistic in looking up info


The middle tier that's still under 1k for AR's seem to be M&P Sport 3, FN Guardian, and (no doubt this forum's favorite) the Zion 15.

For ammo, use AmmoSeek. As of today (9/12/25), for brand new ammo, the cheapest ammo you can buy for the most popular calibers is about:

gun.deals is also really good for getting good prices. I don't doubt there are going to be some prepper sales coming up too but I'd wager the most important thing is just being away from the big cities. Next would be a firearm, and then third (really should be first, but you get what im saying) would be food/water.


Cannot recommend the 10/22 enough, you can get one for like $200 but yeah I'd splurge for the threaded barrel.
 
@The Dude I don't think you ever mentioned it in the thread but did you ever get a suppressor for your Vector and if you did what was it?

Been starting to research them and I'm realizing that it is more involved than I first assumed. Been gleaning some info from other people in the thread over time but Id appreciate anyone with an opinion to chime in because I don't know jack shit about these because I've never desired to own one before this point.

So far I know that getting an alignment rod is a prudent purchase to protect your prolifically pricy protuberance.
 
Howdy thread bros. Has anyone here gotten some time with the Eotech 3-9 SFP optic that released earlier this year? If so, what are your thoughts?
 
Which Python are you carrying?
3 Inch new model with Wilson Combat sights. its the best compromise between size and shootability. short enough that it can be concealed beneath an shirt or jacket if need be but large enough to handle .357 Magnum easily. I put 100 rounds of .357 through it the other day without any hand fatigue. Stopped when i burnt my hand on the barrel.

Its a bit heavy sure, but a good wide and stiff belt and a good holster soaks that weight up nicely. I use an El-paso Saddlery thumbreak duty holster with basket weave stamping and pig skin lining. gives good retention and is quick on the draw.


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@Null On today's episode, you mentioned having trouble shooting your rifle offhand and concluded you need more upper body strength to remedy this. Unless you're an emaciated wraith who struggles to even pick the gun up, muscle strength isn't too relevant to stable offhand shooting. The simple fact of the matter is offhand shooting is the most difficult stance to shoot accurately from and understanding a few fundamentals are very helpful. The muscles in your body, no matter how strong, are not stable enough to hold a rifle perfectly still. You will always have an aimpoint that moves around a bit no matter how hard you try. Learning how your rifle shakes around and timing your shot to be at the moment where the aimpoint crosses your target is the number one thing to practice and learn. There's a lot of reading you can do on various stances to help with offhand shooting and skeletal support, but I'll just mention how a properly adjusted sling allows you to wrap your bicep around it and add tension to the rifle, which helps with stability a lot.
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Howdy thread bros. Has anyone here gotten some time with the Eotech 3-9 SFP optic that released earlier this year? If so, what are your thoughts?
I was thinking about it, but all reviews (actual people reviews not youtube shills) I've found of it find it lacking in generally lacking, especially the moa reticle.
 
Since when does KAC care about the public market?
yeah, when the most common source for some of your products is stolen military property its pretty clear the civilian market isn't the target

(I'm talking about the 600m flip up rear aperture sight. tens of thousands were stolen from the USMC during the GWOT. a whole shipping container is what i heard)
 
You will always have an aimpoint that moves around a bit no matter how hard you try. Learning how your rifle shakes around and timing your shot to be at the moment where the aimpoint crosses your target is the number one thing to practice and learn.
Videogame bullshit.
 
Since when does KAC care about the public market?
They're apparently trying to gain market share and increase overall sales volume. There are only so many militaries and LE Organizations you can sell to.

They're also evidently participating in a civilian suppressor testing summit and testing out a HUB compatible model.
 
I usually don't post here, but I am very gun pro positive. Don't be HIV negative, be pos!

Anyway, get 3 pistols. A micro 9 to carry. FN Reflex, or Springfield Hellcat, whatever. I'm hearing VERY good about the S&W Bodyguard 2.0, which is .380. It'll do the job, but 380 ammo is a bit hard to find sometimes. Go with a Micro 9 I say.

Mid size. Glock 19, 23, 32. nuff said. I prefer the 32 cause 357 sig will bring people over to check wtf is so damn loud.

Full size. Bedside pistol. 9mm Beretta 92, and get a suppressor if possible. 92's action works great with them. I like having a manual safety only on full size cause you'll both move it around a lot and probably have awareness if an intruder is a problem. Anything you carry on the first 2, no safety, just get a solid holster from roundedgear or vedder.

12 gauge, Mossberg is probably best. Recent year 870 Remington appear to have QC issues, but can't confirm. 9 pellet 00 min, 12-15 if you can find it. Each pellet is a 357 mag more or less. Not exactly the bullshit aim in general direction, but any hit will stop a moose.

2 rifles. Obvious 5.56 AR if only 1. If 2, something go with a bolt 308 or CETME or FAL.
 
I’m a bit late to give recommendations but I have done this countless times and have a take that might differ from most people’s.
I encourage people to get either a 12 gauge shotgun, or a 22lr handgun or rifle for a first gun. Mossberg 500 is fine, but I prefer older 870 shotguns. As far as rifles I generally recommend the m&p15-22, or 10-22, hundred dollar specials like the savage 64 are fine but not the best pick. As far as pistols I usually advise for a ruger tx-22, a ruger mk1 or something similar, and in rare cases the heritage rough rider.

These may seem like odd choices, but I have my reasons. These are less effective firearms for fighting and whatnot, but they are cheap and plentiful, they don’t scare people as much, and they’re generally pretty safe and are harder to screw up with. I find a new shooter is better off with 2000 rounds of ammo and a 22lr than a bottom of the barrel AR to just start out.

Moreover, people just getting into guns often don’t know if they’ll enjoy it or even want to continue pursuing it, so having a minimal barrier to entry with something like a mossberg 500 or a 10/22 is ideal.

Once someone has one or multiple of these guns and knows they are ant to continue, I recommend a cheap low spec AR like a PSA. This is because most new shooters don’t put many rounds downrange and don’t encounter the benefits of name brand or even midrange products. A rifle that is going to see 250 rounds a year doesn’t need to be particularly nice, it just needs to work ok, and ARs have been made for so long and in such large quantities that it’s kind of hard to screw them up despite PSA’s best efforts to do so.

Only once a person knows they are interested in firearms because of a shotgun or cheap plinker and they own and have a cheap POS AR do I even begin to think about recommending them a gun for something like concealed carry, and until they care enough to buy a dedicated home defense gun, they have an AR with which they can use as a substitute for a long time.

My method is generally more beginner friendly than plopping a Glock 19, a 43x, or a SOLGW AR in someone’s lap and telling them to shoot at the range 3x a month and the low barrier of entry of my method gets a lot more people to try out owning guns.
 
@The Dude I don't think you ever mentioned it in the thread but did you ever get a suppressor for your Vector and if you did what was it?

Been starting to research them and I'm realizing that it is more involved than I first assumed. Been gleaning some info from other people in the thread over time but Id appreciate anyone with an opinion to chime in because I don't know jack shit about these because I've never desired to own one before this point.

So far I know that getting an alignment rod is a prudent purchase to protect your prolifically pricy protuberance.

I haven't gotten a dedicated 9mm can get, but I did get all the parts to run my SilencerCo Hybrid 46M on my Vector with a tri-lug mount and a 9mm front cap. Eventually I will get a dedicated 9mm suppressor, probably a Huxworx or other flow-thru can to reduce weapon fowling.

Speaking of cans, it looks like the Surefire Ryder 22-S I ordered has arrived at my dealer. Sadly, their NFA guy won't be in until Monday, so I'll have to wait until then to get going on my Form 4. I'll probably stop in on my way home from work to do it in person. Hopefully I won't have to wait long for the tax stamp to get approved. My last two tax stamps (for the Hybrid 46M and to SBR the Vector) only took about a week each to get approved. I'm going to get a Mark IV Tactical to put it on, though the KelTec CP33 looks like something fun to get eventually. Never thought I'd ever actually want a KelTec, but here we are.

After I buy the Mark IV I'll probably go for the 9mm can. Well, unless things start looking like they're going to get hot politically, then I'll try to buy as much rifle ammo as I can instead. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.
 
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