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Akran said:
The SCAR is one of those guns where I want it but don't want to spend that kind of money on it. I'd rather drop the 3k on a FS2000 and even then I'd struggle pulling my card out for it
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The SCAR would be much more appealing if it were $2000 or less. It would be a great gun in that price bracket. But in the price bracket that it's in, there are much better and more competitive options. For a .308 rifle I much more prefer the LMT MWS308, and they're even starting to offer a piston option for it. For a 5.56mm rifle, I personally think the CZ BREN 2 and 3 are better options for a similar rifle. And I personally like the AUG A3 best for a 5.56mm rifle, even though it isn't comparable in design. Just caliber. This is just one old man's opinion. If you love the SCAR, that's perfectly fine too. That's the beauty about firearms: everyone is different, there is no one-size-fits-all option, and there is something for everybody.
 
The Dude said:
The SCAR would be much more appealing if it were $2000 or less.
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It'd be a lot more appealing if it didn't destroy optics and void the warrant the moment you put a can on it. Much like the G36 it got a lot of fanboys because of video games. The M4 and HK416 platform are better in every single way.
 
Well I ordered a chassis for my Franklin Armory F22. Went with an Enoch Industries Deep Six. I really liked that chassis that I posted a couple pages back, the one that uses the takedown pin hole to lock the rear of the chassis rigidly, but it wasn't in stock and I never got a reply back from the manufacturer when I emailed them. So I went with the second option. The Enoch chassis are all highly regarded, so I'm sure I'll be happy with it. Probably going to get it Cerakoted. Thinking blue titanium, but I also like burnt bronze, and they've got a new metallic copper that's really pretty. I'm having a lot of fun with this project. Going to be heading to the range with my oldest to get the F22 and the Vector sighted in and run them through their paces a bit.

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Among Us Gaming said:
They're worth it for their PPS43 builds. Those are typically quite affordable, and fun larp guns. Can be modified with some welding to add the folding stock back if you wish. Can't speak to their PA63 builds I wonder if they licensed the design by proteus armaments

I find it hard to believe that price is justified really, especially since the price point is around the same as their ARs. I suppose its just an economy of scale issue, but even then 2k on a rifle is ridiculous for what it is.
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Did you mean PM63 as opposed to PA63? If so I actually have one of Pioneer's PM63. They've been around for awhile so I don't think they have anything to do with Proteus. I'm not super familiar with Proteus but I think he does rewelds because there's some features present on his builds (and the military models for that matter) that aren't there on the PM-63C. If you look at my image, you can see the little section with the red arrow isn't there on the PM-63C. Its a stock reinforcement track that helps stabilize it when extended. It's kinda gay that Pioneer didn't include that because it's going to make any SBR attempt kind of janky. Once we get tax free bisch stamps I'll work on converting it. I'll have to mill out a slot for the retaining latch, break some spot welds, and swap out some cucked parts with one of my parts kits. I'm pretty happy with it overall, it gets me lots of attention at the range lol. The only issue I have with it is the incredibly weak recoil spring. It doesn't have enough oompf to feed hollow points reliably or fully loaded stendo mags so I'll have to fix that.

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The PM63 is good enough that I've considered picking up one of their PPS-43s too. I have a really nice Russian PPS-43 kit but I can't be fucked to build so I might offload it. There's guys on weapons guild who offer trigger pack/bolt conversions and reweld jigs but after you total things up its just as much if not more than a completed sporter which is basically identical minus the denial bar stamping/markings.
 
Internet-Based Lobotomy said:
Steal of a deal right there. For $400 I'd have snagged that Vz as well. Always wanted a Mauser style but even Turkshit goes for more than it's worth lately. My best luck so far was getting a No. I Mk III Lee for $325 back in 2023. Furniture was cracked and it's Indian but whatever. At least the Brits were there to ensure the QC.
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The M84 has a cantilevered picatinney rail section placed above and in front of the rear sight. Four holes were drilled into the stock/forward handguard.... Not the end of the world but maybe I'll ask for a discount.

I'll also hit up a gun show this weekend to see what's good 😊

The Finnish Mosin is agonizing. Not Bubba'd at all buuuttt it's a Russian Mosin in a nicer stock for $800 😔🥹 and I already have a Russian Mosin.
 
The Dude said:
Well I ordered a chassis for my Franklin Armory F22. Went with an Enoch Industries Deep Six. I really liked that chassis that I posted a couple pages back, the one that uses the takedown pin hole to lock the rear of the chassis rigidly, but it wasn't in stock and I never got a reply back from the manufacturer when I emailed them. So I went with the second option. The Enoch chassis are all highly regarded, so I'm sure I'll be happy with it.
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I've got the Odin from Enoch industries and have no complaints.
 
The Dude said:
The SCAR would be much more appealing if it were $2000 or less. It would be a great gun in that price bracket. But in the price bracket that it's in, there are much better and more competitive options. For a .308 rifle I much more prefer the LMT MWS308, and they're even starting to offer a piston option for it. For a 5.56mm rifle, I personally think the CZ BREN 2 and 3 are better options for a similar rifle. And I personally like the AUG A3 best for a 5.56mm rifle, even though it isn't comparable in design. Just caliber. This is just one old man's opinion. If you love the SCAR, that's perfectly fine too. That's the beauty about firearms: everyone is different, there is no one-size-fits-all option, and there is something for everybody.
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The SCAR was essentially obsolete a decade after its introduction in the world of piston driven rifles when the 416 arrived and then the Bren 2 and so on.

If you want a short stroke rifle you have WAY better options. If you want long stroke.... XCR, PWS, Daewoo, JAKL if you're willing to tolerate the occasional lemon.

I also want an AUG A3.... So BADLY now that the NATO stock has the exact same features as the OG version
Taser Confetti said:
It'd be a lot more appealing if it didn't destroy optics and void the warrant the moment you put a can on it. Much like the G36 it got a lot of fanboys because of video games. The M4 and HK416 platform are better in every single way.
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Yep. Hell, the HK-433 was better too although the Germans missed out on it due to retarded lawsuits.
 
I've got a project in the works (Read: I have exactly one nonessential piece along with hope and a prayer) and I need input/suggestions.
For a side-mounted scope, I'm having trouble deciding between a few options - Euro sporting mounts are possibly the more rugged option but are scarcely found separated from the rifle it was imported on, ZF-39/ZF-4 reproduction mounts are readily available but nobody reviews their stability because it's primarily for looks and last and very much least the ubiquitous cheap and very much cursed option; the Mosin's PU scope mount. I have reasons for not using a Weaver mount or modern rail setup.

Does anyone have experience with any of the above, particularly in mounting, ring stability and opinions on quality or longevity?
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
ZF-39/ZF-4 reproduction mount
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don't get Red Star, get the wetzlar post war (if you don't want to spring for hensoldt or ziess/zielvier), or jena east german. the east german mounts are 100% perfect copies of the zielvier without the branding due to the cold war. similar situation as the zella mehlis PP copies. genuine jena east german mounts have a JENA boss on one side and a date code on the other. do not pay more than 250 for a jena, at 300ish is a genuine zielvier mount.
 
AGPinochet said:
Speculation online is that this is going to result in FN replacing it with the IWS or the Version they cooked up for MRGG contract, or maybe a completely different thing. Maybe they'll just stick to AR's for the civilian market.
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This photo allegedly depicts a rifle that is allegedly dubbed the FN "ARKA" (Advanced Rifle K?????? A?????) That is allegedly one of the submissions from Project Grayburn, the British project to replace the SA80. It might be replacing the discontinued SCAR Models. It is allegedly based on the MRGG Variant and lacks a side charging handle, having only an AR Style charging handle.
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FN has at the least filed for a Trademark for the name

Much better photo also featuring an IPC
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Falcos_Commisar said:
The SCAR was essentially obsolete a decade after its introduction in the world of piston driven rifles when the 416 arrived and then the Bren 2 and so on.

If you want a short stroke rifle you have WAY better options. If you want long stroke.... XCR, PWS, Daewoo, JAKL if you're willing to tolerate the occasional lemon.

I also want an AUG A3.... So BADLY now that the NATO stock has the exact same features as the OG version

Yep. Hell, the HK-433 was better too although the Germans missed out on it due to retarded lawsuits.
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I had an XCR years ago. It was a great rifle. Since Robinson is local to me I ended up starting a great relationship with the crew, including Robinson himself. This was around the time he was designing the proprietary stock that comes on the XCR now and he actually asked for my input on some of the prototypes he'd come up with, but years before the finalized design had been chosen and released.
 
74164978231 said:
It's what happens when you have a unit that has an limited budget and can do whatever it wants. How many fucking rifles has socom gone through now?
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FN also needed a replacement for the FAL and FNC in their lineup. FNC/FAL support had ended right about the same time SCAR development began. so it was likely that some sort of SCAR type gun was going to be made. SCAR-L mags are just modded FAL mags.
 
Internet-Based Lobotomy said:
Those guns were perfect just the way they were and should be revived. Cold War classic and covered in pic rail versions might sell well.
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The FNC perhaps, but the FAL has the same problem as the AK with mounting optics. The dust cover is not very secure. I'm sure FN could come up with something but it probably isn't worth the time at this point with so much dev time in the SCAR and derivatives.
 
The Dude said:
I had an XCR years ago. It was a great rifle. Since Robinson is local to me I ended up starting a great relationship with the crew, including Robinson himself. This was around the time he was designing the proprietary stock that comes on the XCR now and he actually asked for my input on some of the prototypes he'd come up with, but years before the finalized design had been chosen and released.
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Nice. Just wish they weren't $2k+ but that's what happens when you're paying for a clean sheet design with no military contracts funding it.

It would be my go to Long stroke if it was say $1500... Of course I'm waiting to see what the JAKL 2.0 looks like next year....

Short stroke... Honestly a BRN-180 Gen 2 so I can slap it on an AR lower or a Bren 3 (lol not hitting the USA for years of ever) otherwise.

Kiwifarmsname said:
I don't like my 92fs. What should I replace it with? I'm thinking a Glock, XDM, M&P or a High Power.
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M&P 2.0 all day. Better ergos in my hands than any Glock or XD and more modern than a High Power
 
Falcos_Commisar said:
Nice. Just wish they weren't $2k+ but that's what happens when you're paying for a clean sheet design with no military contracts funding it.

It would be my go to Long stroke if it was say $1500... Of course I'm waiting to see what the JAKL 2.0 looks like next year....

Short stroke... Honestly a BRN-180 Gen 2 so I can slap it on an AR lower or a Bren 3 (lol not hitting the USA for years of ever) otherwise.
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I've got a stripped Lancer AR lower, the one with interchangeable magwel funnels, and I need to build it up. I'm probably going to SBR it next year when it's free, and strongly considering the BRN-180 upper. I may even go with .300blk since I've got a really nice .30 cal suppressor, though I'll probably just go 5.56mm for cheap and plentiful ammo.
 
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