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AGPinochet said:
I understand Franklin has to try and recoup some of the money they spent on the lawsuit but come on man
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Making keyholing a feature sure is a marketing idea, but it isn't as big a sell now that braces aren't as uncomfortable and buying an SBR outright isn't as expensive/time consuming.
 
888Flux said:
What percent of this is NFA transfers and tax stamps?
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Since these numbers were given at a firearms' summit where they don't care about alcohol or tobacco and I know for a fact that alcohol and tobacco generate a help of a lot more annual ATF revenue than $187M, I would assume most of it. $150M (remember that they expect to retain $25-30M in revenues after stamps go to $0) equals to 750k $200 tax stamps annually.
WASR96 said:
Damn. That PDW looks like it could fill that "MP7 at home" itches.
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For a guy who makes his living selling premium Boston sewn pants to Special Forces and airsofters he sure does design some guns (but he would never ever produce one).
 
AGPinochet said:
For a guy who makes his living selling premium Boston sewn pants to Special Forces and airsofters he sure does design some guns (but he would never ever produce one).
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I'm still so pissed the Six12 shotgun never made it to production. As an underbarrel tool it was absolutely retarded but standalone it was really cool.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
None of this matters because all pistols suck at terminal performance and shot placement or sheer number of wounds is what it will take to stop a determined threat.
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you can really hop up a pistol load if you use a good bullet and powder. my .45 colt ballistic tips at almost 1,600 FPS would do a lot better than generic 9x19, .45 ACP etc on human targets i believe.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
you can really hop up a pistol load if you use a good bullet and powder. my .45 colt ballistic tips at almost 1,600 FPS would do a lot better than generic 9x19, .45 ACP etc on human targets i believe.
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First of all, are you actually carrying that?

Second of all how much more effective is that than shooting someone several times with 9mm hollow points?
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
First of all, are you actually carrying that?

Second of all how much more effective is that than shooting someone several times with 9mm hollow points?
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Yes I do. Most days I carry an Ruger Blackhawk .45 or a Colt's Anaconda .45 when I don't have one of those 2 I carry a Colt's python. My bedside gun at the moment is a 9.3mm Mauser carbine.

Black bears are becoming a real problem, and the dead-eyed methbillies are also a concern. open carry is common here so no one bats an eye.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
The market is slowly turning towards hybrid designs with kydex screwed into nylon or leather and I definitely prefer that now, but nylon or leather with hefty DIY sewing or duct tape will always be king for IWB.
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Yeah and hybrid holsters are considered shit. I disagree the market is going that way since there is no shortage of kydex holster makers but only a handful of hybrid makers.


Use wedges, maybe wear a wife beater under your t-shirt and tuck it in to add padding, but don't settle for comfort gimmicks.

I'll end it here, I don't think this thread should be derailed over holster talk.
 
WASR96 said:
I've never carried in a shoulder rig before though, any recommendations?
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In my humble opinion, the besr shoulder rig on the market is the Nightengale Leather Sandpiper. Kevin at Nightingale is a master craftsman and one of the very few holster makers offering fully leather lined holsters. He offers the Sandpiper in various different configurations, vertical or horizontal holster, with belt tie downs or a rear sway strap, autos or revolvers, two or three magazine carrier on the off side, even exotic leathers. I will warn you that it is expensive, and his wait time is currently 34 weeks, but it is absolutely worth it and sometimes he offers discounts. I've currently got one for my Dan Wesson Specialist with triple mag carrier, rear sway strap, and fully leather lined. I've got a second one coming for my Staccato P that will also be fully lined and have the triple mag carrier, but I decided to go with the belt tie downs instead of the sway strap.
 
HelpingNoone said:
Wedges definitely help.

I will say the biggest comfort mod is losing 30 pounds. Night and day with a gut and no gut.
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I cannot endorse this hard enough. At my largest there was not way for me to carry a gun at all. at 450 you just can't do it.
now, 250 pounds lighter i can. it'd be easier though if my spine wasn't turbo fucked from the weight and the exercise required to get rid of it.
 
I have been carrying for over a decade where it is very hot and humid all the time. I started with pocket carry but quickly realized how shitty that is. I’ve mostly done appendix carry of a G19, G17 or VP9.

For appendix carry your holster should have a camming feature (claw) to rotate the grip towards you horizontally and a wedge to rotate it towards you vertically for maximum comfort and concealment. You will also find slide length will have a limit to what is comfortable. I used to carry a X300U on my gun and definitely found it uncomfortable in certain situations.

I have found that the shorter lights are actually more comfortable than carrying without a light because it speeds the pressure out over a larger area.

I did make a thread dedicated to carrying effectively if anyone wants to continue the discussion over there.

Pretend To Imagine

Thread 'Concealing firearms effectively.'

I figured it would be good to have a thread for discussion of concealment skills separate from the EDC thread which is essentially gear lists.



Concealing a firearm effectively on your person requires some degree of skill combined with proper equipment. I have been carrying concealed for over a decade in a hot climate and in somewhat non permissive environments. I’ve gone through a few different methods of carry and lots of different equipment, and have a lot of experience to share that can hopefully help others shorten the learning period.



The key thing to consider is where on your...
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On the holster debate, you have the pocket holster. Let's you shove a gun in your pocket without it bashing up the gun or your leg. Good for cargo pockets, and is a must have for a J-frame.
 
Do not like all this talk about pocket guns outside the context of a suit jacket or some such. Put gun in holster, put holster in pants. Simple as. You probably shouldn't be packing a micro either unless you have a genuine need to deep conceal, which goes back to wearing a suit usually, in which case gun should be in jacket pocket.


>But shorts and T-Shirt...
Adhere to the uniform sir, button down shirts and 5.11 pants.
 
Managed to get my hands on a Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Pistol with the ACRO cut. How bad does the loaded chamber indicator on the barrel weep gun powder residue onto the optic? Should I save myself frustration and replace the barrel with a KKM or Apex down the line?
 
I'm going to try and echo more sound minds and suggest that optimal carry method is second to making proper decisions in life.
Ten out of every ten negative holster reviews include someone doing something retarded. "I got suplexed by a drunk guy that I went out of my way to confront and my gun fell out, would not recommend" is not a shining example to follow. Very typically your holster choice follows your day to day activity, so if you're a rough and tumble sort it may behoove you to not have an IWB setup without proper retention. There's also the concession that you may flag other people including yourself in that you do what is most reasonable in any given circumstance.

Be a sensible person, don't be retarded, carry as best you can and practice. You will go through a lot of holsters to find what works for you.
 
Boney said:
Do not like all this talk about pocket guns outside the context of a suit jacket or some such. Put gun in holster, put holster in pants. Simple as. You probably shouldn't be packing a micro either unless you have a genuine need to deep conceal, which goes back to wearing a suit usually, in which case gun should be in jacket pocket.


>But shorts and T-Shirt...
Adhere to the uniform sir, button down shirts and 5.11 pants.
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You can deep conceal a 19 pretty easily:






Phlster Enigma belt with a Tenicor holster
 
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