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DocAwe said:
All gun manufacturers should refuse sales to all California agencies.
Yeah yeah bla bla never happen.
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I appreciate Barrett stopping sales to Cali agencies since their citizens aren't allowed to buy their guns, but it really doesn't hurt them in the long run. It would hurt a lot more for someone like Glock, S&W, Mossberg, Remington, DD, PSA, etc to stop selling to police agencies since that's equipment that the majority of officers actually rely on.

Osama Bin Laden said:
hey chat, im looking into buying a gun for self-defense, I would like something under $300 but the max is $400.
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Are you looking for home defense or concealed carry? Handguns are a bit out of your current price range for what most people would recommend to new shooters, but you could find a Mossberg or Remington shotgun used in your current range. Hell, I think I've seen the Benelli Supernova go on sale for around the $400 range before.

Edit: forgot about the RXM. Around $400 most times I've seen it and it's a great handgun.
 
Burekbossman said:
Do you plan on carrying it or is it for home defense?
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WASR96 said:
Are you looking for home defense or concealed carry? Handguns are a bit out of your current price range for what most people would recommend to new shooters, but you could find a Mossberg or Remington shotgun used in your current range. Hell, I think I've seen the Benelli Supernova go on sale for around the $400 range before.
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home defense
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
hey chat, im looking into buying a gun for self-defense, I would like something under $300 but the max is $400.
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I do not recommend it, but for a short period I had to rely on a Heritage Rough Rider revolver (I see them for $130 or less all the time) in .22 lr for defense due to life circumstances, and while I would never suggest someone else doing so, I can say that the gun runs fine as long as I cleaned it every 70 or so rounds. If I was a serious poorfag again and just needed something that went bang like I did then, I would at least kick it up to a Ruger Wrangler, which has a somewhat concealable 3.75" birdshead model that I am seeing for sale for $180 bucks or so. Only decent holster I see is $70, but you could theoretically leave the hammer down on an empty chamber and toss it in a pocket or waistband if you really have a need to. You can find decent lead round nose .22lr like CCI Standard Velocity for about $40 for a 500 round brick, which will last you a good amount of training, and can double for defense since there really isn't much of a point to buying expensive defensive .22lr loads. Add on a cheap cleaning kit for $30, and you can have yourself a prime ghetto blaster for about $250, which is about the only way I can see something matching your very restrictive budget.

You won't get many things that anyone would want to rely on for defense by being such a penny pincher. I would say $600 is a much more reasonable price for a new firearm, and even that isn't going to be considering useful additions such as a holster/rifle bag, ammunition (range and defensive), and a cleaning kit.

You can sometimes find good used gun deals at gun stores and pawnshops. Police trade ins and old but quality firearms can sometimes be had for a good price, but I can say personally that most my used guns have been bad purchases so your mileage may vary. You will need to do your own research on what to look for, and do not let an employee or owner talk you into buying something shitty just because they want to clear up space.
 
WASR96 said:
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Fount of BadSpeak said:
You won't get many things that anyone would want to rely on for defense by being such a penny pincher. I would say $600 is a much more reasonable price for a new firearm, and even that isn't going to be considering useful additions such as a holster/rifle bag, ammunition (range and defensive), and a cleaning kit.

You can sometimes find good used gun deals at gun stores and pawnshops. Police trade ins and old but quality firearms can sometimes be had for a good price, but I can say personally that most my used guns have been bad purchases so your mileage may vary. You will need to do your own research on what to look for, and do not let an employee or owner talk you into buying something shitty just because they want to clear up space.
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this is the answer i was looking for. i wasn’t sure if $300-$400 was too cheap because at the end of the day, im trusting my life with this gun. i would like to know where to find good deals but you’ve listed some already
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
this is the answer i was looking for. i wasn’t sure if $300-$400 was too cheap because at the end of the day, im trusting my life with this gun. i would like to know where to find good deals but you’ve listed some already
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i always suggest seeing if you have a range nearby that offers rentals. its good to hold and shoot a few different guns to see what feels best in your hands. and if you enjoy shooting it you might be willing to spend a bit more to get something you like.

once you find a model you like you can go to the deal aggregators to see who has the best price(wikiarms, gun.deals, etc..) they also are great for finding deals on ammo.

it is usually cheaper to buy online, but you will still need to have it shipped to a local gunstore and pay them a transfer fee.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
perhaps they have some sort of sabot/wadding that keeps them together for some time after leaving the muzzle?
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This video shows them using a field-expedient loading tool, along with other components. It looks like the petals are held together with some sort of wire & elastic bands?
 
WASR96 said:
forgot about the RXM. Around $400 most times I've seen it and it's a great handgun.
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2nding the Ruger RXM. Firearms are generally something with a long lifetime. With proper maintenance, it's a purchase that can last forever.

Finally no matter what gun you get learn how to actually use it. Take it out to the range.

Handguns are not intuitive. There is a significant amount of attention that has to go into learning how to fire one properly. Competency with your firearm is more important then the actual firearm yourself. For new shooters this is critical and simply having it at your bedside is not enough.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
hey chat, im looking into buying a gun for self-defense, I would like something under $300 but the max is $400.
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used glock 17s gen5s are hovering around 300-400$,
plane jane RXM is about 400$, You can also get big box stores to price match if you use gun.deals to find a better price. I think I've seen RXMs as low as 350

Or get the HARD R glock with an optic for 499$ (you said upper limit was 400, this is technically in the 400 quantile)
mentioned in a post a few times ago, but it's a really good value prop. Glock 19 clone with replaceable grips if you don't like the way it feels with a enclosed red dot.
if you also want a light for either you can't beat the ping ping special (fits TLR-1 holsters)
 
yeah get the RXM if you want to keep it under 400. you can get one with a red dot for about the same price as a glock
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
hey chat, im looking into buying a gun for self-defense, I would like something under $300 but the max is $400.
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Hi Point supremacy baby:

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Its in your price range.
 
A "compact" (G19 sized) pistol is my go to one gun defensive solution for people since they're big enough to be easy to shoot and small enough to conceal if necessary.

Fount of BadSpeak said:
You won't get many things that anyone would want to rely on for defense by being such a penny pincher. I would say $600 is a much more reasonable price for a new firearm, and even that isn't going to be considering useful additions such as a holster/rifle bag, ammunition (range and defensive), and a cleaning kit.
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You can easily find a trustworthy gun for $400, even new. Just this past month I saw a special on new S&W Shield Plus and Equalizers which came with 5 mags for $400, which are great carry guns and with the extended mags have more grip length for bedside use where concealment isn't an issue. M&P9 (non 2.0) are cheap used and M2.0s are on sale under $400. Glocks are unfortunately tard-taxed right now because they're my go-to recommendation for "I need a defensive weapon". LE trade in .40SW Glocks are still available for under $400 though and here: https://gun.deals/product/glock-22-gen3-40sw-449-barrel-15-rounds-used-32999. IMO there are plenty of perfectly adequate cheap guns though if you put some deal hunting in, I relied on a dang Kel Tec PF9 for a while when I was younger and it was perfectly reliable from new till the time I sold it, if uncomfortable to shoot until I sanded down the mold line flashing.

SD9s and 40s are dirt cheap ($200-300 range), and so are some Taurus autos as well but I don't know if they're any good since I never used one. I do have a friend who likes his Taurus G3C.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
hey chat, im looking into buying a gun for self-defense, I would like something under $300 but the max is $400.
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If you can go above $400 a little bit you can find LE trade in Glocks in 9mm, you might get lucky and find a .40 S&W under $400 since no one really wants that caliber. Aimsurplus has an M&P40 .40 S&W for $299.95. Don't fall for those Sig P320 trade ins.

Your budget is a little prohibitive for 9mm.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
what is a good caliber for self defense
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9mm or .40 S&W.

People prefer 9mm because the loads have improved while carrying more rounds, so .40 S&W is nowhere as popular as it once was. 9mm is also cheaper to shoot though during the pandemic .40 S&W was never sold out. I and many others here prefer 9mm but your budget is a big factor here.

One thing to keep in mind is the cost of ammo, go look up how much 9mm ball ammo is vs .40 S&W since that is what you'll be using to train with most of the time. Also check out the price of JHP in both calibers because you'll need to shoot that once a while and keeping some on hand to defend yourself.

You should probably factor in training too. Classes aren't cheap and you sound like a beginner (not a dig), the best you can do for self defense is get training.
 
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