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Is he subcontracting the receiver blanks out to another shop? Because I thought he only had a CNC mill and a lathe and operated out of a shed on his property. It would also still be cheaper to buy a $5k Bandsaw and and chop chunks off of bar stock himself wouldn't it?
I think so, I am gathering most of this stuff from his personal/business Facebook page. I don't even think you need to spend $5k on a bandsaw that would be able to handle such bar stock. I am struggling to follow his logic, in his head waterjetting the shape and 4th axis machining (something that is very complex, sometimes more costly) is simpler. Also there are apparently two different versions of this rifle? The ARVSS1 which is .300blackout and takes AK556 mags, and a clone "correct" version which has not seen any updates recently. I think that is why there are so many fucking mismatched parts being shown off and how he "owns the haters". The metal 3D printed dust cover is probably for the actual clone, and thats why the ARVSS1 shit he posts looks so bad because its an imagining of the VSS.

Example of his ARVSS1
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Example of a "real" vss converted to 300blackout that he worked on, notice his shitty printed dust cover
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Example of a real VSS, spot the differences!
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I don't even think you need to spend $5k on a bandsaw that would be able to handle such bar stock
That's true, you can more or less use woodworking tools for rough cutting aluminum. A $200 jigsaw from Lowes would do it all day, or a $50 one from Harbor Freight if you're working small scale
 
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow gun enthusiasts. Eat some good food, hug your families, and enjoy your range time. Life is too short, make the most of it!

Edit: damn, KF had deleted half my post for some reason. Well, you get the idea. Get out and magdump some trash!
 
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Your role: Can YOU, the reader, adopt the mindset of an anti gun activist and present to me In the context of the theoretical future this logical exercise takes place in a coherent argument as to why new production, real, taxed snd regulated machineguns should remain outlawed while pseudo-machineguns are legal in large swathes of the country?
It will work exactly the same way as drug legislation will work.

A new THC molecule (FRT module) will come out that is juuuuust different enough from the other illegal stuff that it will technically be legal and available for purchase at your local gas station (gun store) for about 2 weeks, after which the laws will be amended and the process repeated.

We will soon see feats of gun engineering horror that you never thought possible in this timeline. I'm picturing Rube Goldberg tier designs sticking outside of the frame of the gun.

This isn't that far different than what has already happened surrounding the dance around making your weapons fully semi-automatic. It will simply be streamlined down to the most barebones and efficient circumvention of the law.
 
It will work exactly the same way as drug legislation will work.

A new THC molecule (FRT module) will come out that is juuuuust different enough from the other illegal stuff that it will technically be legal and available for purchase at your local gas station (gun store) for about 2 weeks, after which the laws will be amended and the process repeated.

We will soon see feats of gun engineering horror that you never thought possible in this timeline. I'm picturing Rube Goldberg tier designs sticking outside of the frame of the gun.

This isn't that far different than what has already happened surrounding the dance around making your weapons fully semi-automatic. It will simply be streamlined down to the most barebones and efficient circumvention of the law.
I think it (a hypothetical future end of the Hughes Amendment, that is) would be like Marijuana legalization but for a different reason

If we peek back at my original post that ignited this line of thinking for me we can get a vague estimate at how much revenue one single company can generate from one single product while also selling dozens more supported by some rough data
10,000 units per month means 120,000 units annually and at $250 per means a theoretical $30,000,000 in net sales annually just from ARC Fires assuming no increases in production or disruptions and no super safeties or any of the other products they sell. Why is this important? A couple reasons

What was one of the two primary incentives behind large scale legalization of marijuana besides emptying out jails and prisons? Money, for the state and those who grow and sell it. The same motives obviously applies to FRT's. People want money, so they sell FRT's, people want full auto functionality but don't want to pay even depressed due to FRT's pricing for beat to shit MAC's so they buy FRT's. If just one company can have a gross income of $30M just from 120k of one product without accounting for anything else they sell that is a clear indicator of massive demand (demand obviously correlates to proliferation and once proliferation reaches a critical point there will have to be serious debate about the Hughes amendment), incentivizing new manufacturers to pop up like mushrooms after rain (which they already are, meeting demand and thus furthering proliferation). Grabbers (which I will fully admit, I am writing much too reasonably in this scenario) are then left with a choice. FRT's are legal in 32 states (Ignore Colorado, they're only illegal in a few counties but most sellers refuse to ship their across the board), Alaska is permissive while Hawaii bans them. Sure we'll probably lose a couple of the green states between now and then but still.
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Millions and millions of people so own guns live in those states. Grabbers face the following choice in a situation in which widespread FRT ownership leads for a serious movement to repeal the Hughes Amendment

A. They rail and rail against the possibility of repeal and thus unintentionally lend their support to the continued manufacture and sale of completely unregulated and unregistered devices they call machine guns (it's irrelevant that they also want FRT's banned)

Or.

B. They support the repeal of the Hughes Amendment and the subsequent reopening of the machinegun registry which depending on a few factors (such as whether or not FRT's would need to be registered under an amnesty or whether Tax stamps are adjusted for inflation) could lead to a tidal wave of new MG registrations (think of how devalued the dollar is right now and think ahead to how much further depreciated it will be in say, 10 years In order to get a feeling of just how little $200 will be by then) which could possibly have serious implications on future court cases at SCOTUS.

"But AGPinochet this is all predicated on FRT's not getting banned any time soon before proliferation can reach a critical mass".

Realistically, barring Las Vegas 2.0 the earliest that FRT's could maybe get banned would be January 21st, 2029 and that's assuming dems have control of congress and decide to nuke the filibuster, until then tens of thousands of FRT's will be sold monthly, every month, for an increasingly large range of firearms. FRT's are still a relatively obscure and niche item these days. But in a few years?. AS Designs, a single manufacturer is capable of selling 10k ARC Fires a month (this isn't even counting their conventional super safety sales) and there are dozens of manufacturers and resellers. This is before we even get into rhetorical arguments about marijuana legalization, alcohol prohibition and the Nordic model of prostitution but rewritten for guns


What I'm basically getting at is that eventually there are going to be so many FRT's being made and sold to the point where outright banning them will be very hard politically and people will start asking questions as to why they can't have real machineguns when they have the next best thing that is practically identical? And Grabbers will be forced into the extremely difficult position of either staying the course or advocating for "harm reduction" by reopening the MG registry and giving people taxed, regulated and registered machineguns
 
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How often do you guys clean your pistols/rifles after shooting them at the range
For me it depends on what it is.

A gas gun with a suppressor gets cleaned/lubed after every session. A competition piece gets cleaned and lubed after the session nearest the next match.

Everything else gets done when I think it needs it, like if the slide is noticably more sluggish in recoil. For some things like my .375 H&H or my .44 magnum that can mean years between maintenance.

I always inspect everything before and after shooting them but if it's not a necessity I don't see the point.

How often do you all clean/lube lever guns? Let's say centerfire variants.
 
Speaking of FRTs....
I've been watching their folding stock development for a while now, and am seriously considering picking one up. I already have an SKS that's been swapped with an older Archangel that's adjustable (kinda), but it's heavy as fuck and honestly kind of a pain to take down. Would be fun to see how far I could take it.
 
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Can YOU, the reader, adopt the mindset of an anti gun activist and present to me In the context of the theoretical future this logical exercise takes place in a coherent argument as to why new production, real, taxed snd regulated machineguns should remain outlawed while pseudo-machineguns are legal in large swathes of the country?
Their argument is ban all guns, everything short of that is just incremental towards that.
 
Your role: Can YOU, the reader, adopt the mindset of an anti gun activist and present to me In the context of the theoretical future this logical exercise takes place in a coherent argument as to why new production, real, taxed snd regulated machineguns should remain outlawed while pseudo-machineguns are legal in large swathes of the country?
Legit Gay Retard Reasoning: Spielberg's gun collection would be devalued overnight and we can't have that.
Fake Gay Activist Reasoning: Selling full-auto guns off the shelf that don't have to be technically-not-illegally modified makes it even easier for communities to suffer losses of and by the hands of future scientists, astronauts and presidents.
 
Fake Gay Activist Reasoning: Selling full-auto guns off the shelf that don't have to be technically-not-illegally modified makes it even easier for communities to suffer losses of and by the hands of future scientists, astronauts and presidents.
This is arguably the best one I've heard yet but is mitigated via the NFA process. I'm not talking about transferring MG's on a 4473 here, but a Form 1/4 after the registry hypothetically reopens. And negroes already make prolific use or illegal MG's ans have the same access to FRT's as anyone does in a state where they're legal.


I've spent days thinking about this and have asked two seperate AI chatbots Yes I know these very questions and I can't determine a coherent answer that doesn't use irrational emotion as a foundation. I like to frame it in conversation, like in a debate or news interview in my head

Pro-gun Person: "I believe that the proliferation of FRT's has made the Hughes Amendment a largely symbolic statute seeing as how anyone with a credit card in 30+ states can buy device that has 98% of the functionality of a machinegun completely legally, so lets stop playing games and Repeal Hughes, Reopen the machine gun registry and let the American people have access to taxed (until we abolish the tax stamps for them), registered (until do away with the MG registry) and regulated (until we repeal the NFA) machineguns instead of these oh so dangerous unregulated and unregistered devices they you refer to as machineguns that according to you only exist as a loophole. Surely you're on the side of increased regulation aren't you?

Anti-Gun person: [I can't even begin to formulate an argument from their perspective as to why they wouldn't support this* even if they hate both outcomes]

*I'm assuming we're dealing with actual adults here
 
How often do you guys clean your pistols/rifles after shooting them at the range
I like to run a boresnake while the barrel is still warm/hot before packing my guns away. Aside from that, .22s get cleaned pretty often just because of the dirty nature of .22LR ammo. Centerfire stuff, I'll take down and if they look like they need it I'll do it, which usually ends up being every four to six trips.
 
I'm not talking about transferring MG's on a 4473 here, but a Form 1/4 after the registry hypothetically reopens. And negroes already make prolific use or illegal MG's ans have the same access to FRT's as anyone does in a state where they're legal.
In the script of the activist, Form 1/4 does not exist.
With the proliferation of legal MGs we will predictably see cheap MGs. With cheap MGs we will come to expect people with NRA bumper stickers leaving their Kel-Tec brrrtgun under their seat as the retards are wont to do. Thus stolen MGs will become more common.
 
At Thanksgiving dinner at my mother-in-law's house, and she gave me another one of the guns from my father-in-law's collection. It is a Winchester 9422 in .22lr and it was unfired in the original box. Previously I had inherited a Browning BL-22 that was also unfired in the box. So now each of my boys will get to own one of their grampa's rifles when they're old enough. The Winchester definitely feels heftier than the Browning, and a lot of people say they feel the 9422 was the best lever action .22 rifle ever made.

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Speaking of FRTs....
I've been watching their folding stock development for a while now, and am seriously considering picking one up. I already have an SKS that's been swapped with an older Archangel that's adjustable (kinda), but it's heavy as fuck and honestly kind of a pain to take down. Would be fun to see how far I could take it.
lololol I remember when i was a boy one of the local gun nuts at the time (he's since died) got a new SKS that was still packed in cosmoline. the gunk had congealed in the firing pin channel in the bolt making that SKS a machine gun until he cleaned it.
 
I just saw this xeet and learned that California has some retarded requirement for rifle grips. I already know about Cali requirements for handguns, but this is new to me. What's the official justification for this?

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Californian Politicians are very retarded and hate guns. Many years ago they decided to ban a bunch of guns (scary "assault rifles"), but they decided to do it via the features the guns had, and one of the prohibited features among others were pistol grips, they defined pistol grips in a very specific way and the gun industry started making a bunch of grips that didn't meet that definition and were thus legal in California. There are like at least a dozen "solutions" available for grips these days. The same law that bans normal pistol grips also bans bayonet lugs and grenade launchers. You can also get around the pistol grip ban if your rifle is not semi automatic or has a non detachable magazine( and there are at least another dozen solutions to make you AR no longer semi automatic or not technically have a detachable magazine under California law. The pinnacle of this probably being the juggernaut tactical hellfighter kit

Keep in mind that in California you're also limited to 10 round mags unless you have some from before the ban orgot some during freedom week in like 2019


Now you're probably thinking "wait, that's fucking retarded!" And you'd be right because yes it is.
 
California is like an Autist and a Downie got together, got drunk, banged like drunk retards, the Downie got pregnant but kept drinking every day and also started smoking crack, and the Autist/Downie hybrid was born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Crack Baby Syndrome levels of retarded.
 
How often do you guys clean your pistols/rifles after shooting them at the range
If they malfunctioned,
Or the residue buildup is chunky (that stuff is toxic so if it is leaving residue anywhere you should be a little concerned),
then I clean them.
I think if you have an heirloom/historical piece then it might be worth cleaning every range trip but you can usually get buy with a spray of CLP and a dream (in my experience)
 
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