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Problem in this is that we have already seen the administration having taken the stance of "He was carrying a gun so that justified the action." With Kash Patel saying following, we are going to see further anti-2A talking points from the admin over this event.
""You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have a right to break the law.""
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Knowing the history of Pam Bondi, or even Trump with his bump stock ban, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the admin tries to push some restrictions or at minimum throw the issue under the bus, giving anti-2A orgs free ammunition for their own politics.
""You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have a right to break the law.""
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Knowing the history of Pam Bondi, or even Trump with his bump stock ban, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the admin tries to push some restrictions or at minimum throw the issue under the bus, giving anti-2A orgs free ammunition for their own politics.
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Rittenhouse all over again.
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Erik Scott July 10, 2010
Daniel Shaver January 18, 2016
Philando Castile July 6, 2016
Ryan Matthew Whitaker May 21, 2020
Brian Malinowski March 21, 2024
Alex Pretti January 24, 2026
The killing of Pretti is as indefensible as the killings of all these other gun owners for just being gun owners.
He was standing on the opposite side of the road with his hands up filming when ICE escalated the situation. The same could easily happen to you if you were just in the wrong area when an ICE raid was occurring. I expect law enforcement to be more professional than this, and even if you like what ICE is doing vicitim blaming here doesn’t further your cause.
The amount of republican pages in my feed demonizing Pretti for having a normal ccw rig is wild. About 3 years ago I called that we’d see Rs and Ds flip on gun rights. I think it’s actually happening now.
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Is it worthwhile to use cowboy loads for historical guns, or is it better to stick to blackpowder? Also, when loading blackpowder cartidges, do I need to do anything differently from loading regular cartidges?
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You have to keep in mind (me as well) that the majority of people you see online posting about this shit on the right or the left are paid shills or establishment whores. I agree with other posters that to call it a '2A issue' is stretching it a bit much but if enough people paint it in that light I suppose it eventually will become one.
Like the bottom line is don't go to any of these glowops in the first place if you value your life and freedoms, that's just number one. Being able to legally carry a gun on you does not mean law enforcement can't see it as a threat. I could have a glock with two mags on me and have a CCW permit stitched to my jacket, but if the cop thinks for a moment that I'm planning to draw on him and fire, then he can just cap my ass unfortunately. He may not get away with it but he can and will most likely have department money spent on defending the shoot in court.
I think this is more easily explained as gross incompetence than ICE/Law Enforcement agencies saying 'NO GUNS ALLOWED DIE!!!'. Just in general I wouldn't be caught dead at one of these things where tensions are high and either side can fly off the handle. That's ignoring the whole SIG meme again, but I'll admit it is funny to think that SIG's indian metal molds might start a civil war in Minnesota.
Like the bottom line is don't go to any of these glowops in the first place if you value your life and freedoms, that's just number one. Being able to legally carry a gun on you does not mean law enforcement can't see it as a threat. I could have a glock with two mags on me and have a CCW permit stitched to my jacket, but if the cop thinks for a moment that I'm planning to draw on him and fire, then he can just cap my ass unfortunately. He may not get away with it but he can and will most likely have department money spent on defending the shoot in court.
I think this is more easily explained as gross incompetence than ICE/Law Enforcement agencies saying 'NO GUNS ALLOWED DIE!!!'. Just in general I wouldn't be caught dead at one of these things where tensions are high and either side can fly off the handle. That's ignoring the whole SIG meme again, but I'll admit it is funny to think that SIG's indian metal molds might start a civil war in Minnesota.
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It’s becoming one by default because the administration and their media is using antigun talking points to justify the killing
The gun was loaded!
He had full magazines!
The gun was expensive and customized!
He was intending to murder as many people as possible!
Never bring a gun to a protest!
All antigun talking points that either aren’t really strange or are false.
And yeah I agree. I don’t go to protests. I don’t think they’re very useful for anything other than getting a criminal record oneself.
Nonetheless I expect law enforcement to be more competent and not act liked panicked animals.
This could in fact be the dumbest shot heard round the world.
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iirc black powder has a different pressure curve than smokeless. if the gun was for black powder, then black powder, if its for smokeless but just really old than cowboys would probably be fine. dont take my word for it tho i could be misremembering
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The reddit hoards are coming for you
I think it depends on the gun, like the trapdoor that can take only specific modern loads. I don't think there is much of a difference reloading blackpowder cartridges other than maybe wadding and also lubing the cast bullets.
Brice update: He's going to MEME all the SHIT TALKERS and is going to MENTALLY SODOMIZE ALL THE FOOLS, he also posts videos/a picture of a finished receiver.
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What’s going to happen will be the same as the Boogaloo boys during George Floyd. These libertarian autists will now start to march with anti ICE people with their guns thinking they’re doing a heckin pro 2A demonstration and be used as useful idiots and cover for the sinister leftist groups. We’ll get random Garret Foster moments
The new wave of boogaloo boys will get swept up in their need to stop random cars to check if they’re ICE to “protect the 2A” because that’s what the anti ICE groups will encourage them to do and end up ventilated either by ICE or ironically by someone with a CCL spooked by someone with a rifle at a low ready charging their car door.
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He lives in Louisiana, not Los Angeles.
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It's called trying to CYA as much as possible. Even if you brought the agents to trial figuring out who exactly shot first will be nearly impossible and who killed him and the BEST you'd get is a manslaughter charge.... At best
They'll say they (correctly) couldn't hear shit with all of the protestors screaming and whistling and the time between GUN and the shot(s) is less than 1.5 seconds
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Spiritually Californian then
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Yes I’ve seen the full video.
I stand by ICE escalated the situation by using physical force against people who weren’t in the middle of their operations knocking them to the ground, and continued to unnecessarily escalate with pepper spray, and then multiple agents couldn’t actually effect an arrest dog piling the guy, disarmed him, then shot him.
Unprofessional clown show.
Every dumb shooting and excessive use of force justifies the criticisms of ICE being ill trained thugs.
When vet bros, Moistcritical, and even Asmongold are saying this is fucked up, it’s ok to admit that maybe this was bad and ICE isn’t doing itself any favors.
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Messy shooting or not it's not like they disarmed him, waited some time and then executed him. This all happened in a few seconds with someone actively resisting.
Also, them grabbing a single firearm doesn't mean he's magically disarmed. People do carry multiple weapons. Gun went off and made the situation worse. Tragic but stop interfering with ice and resisting and your survivability goes through the roof.
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Counterpoint: Someone has already been shot and killed prior to this. Getting physically involved with, let alone within six feet of, people you believe to be dangerous and incompetent is calling upon the full extent of Darwin's principles to completely vaporize and eliminate you from existence and allow cooler heads to proceed into the future.
Fortunately for him, they were not intending to execute him in the street. UNfortunately, a gun went off and he died. Sane persons could quite possibly learn from THIS event and not dick around in arms-length to enable and possibly invite this circumstance to happen. But people prancing around in -30 degree weather chasing law enforcement in a Honda Fit blowing a whistle and coordinating over Signal with state officials and local cops are not the smartest. So this will happen again. And again.
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I’m never going to say being there is a good idea. Pretti did not deserve to die for being there.
Nothing that occurred justified the force escalation that set this chain of events in motion, nor was the continued escalation of force justified.
I do not expect the private citizen to be more professional than professional cops.
I find the administration’s framing of this event as concerning and perhaps more concerning than the event itself.
The cycle of escalation will continue because the people who are in power and could de-escalate won’t. It is almost like they want it to be worse by giving the left the martyrs they want. And people will wonder why the pendulum will swing hard back the other direction the next election cycle. The middle average American might be anti-illegal immigration, but they do not like this level of force being used on their streets.
Nothing that occurred justified the force escalation that set this chain of events in motion, nor was the continued escalation of force justified.
I do not expect the private citizen to be more professional than professional cops.
I find the administration’s framing of this event as concerning and perhaps more concerning than the event itself.
The cycle of escalation will continue because the people who are in power and could de-escalate won’t. It is almost like they want it to be worse by giving the left the martyrs they want. And people will wonder why the pendulum will swing hard back the other direction the next election cycle. The middle average American might be anti-illegal immigration, but they do not like this level of force being used on their streets.
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Whole situation is a mess. Good reminder that when the holster goes on you carry yourself differently.